Originally posted by: MrColin
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: MrColin
jjyiz28:
You are a creep for crossing the picket line
Why?
When you accept a job (read: agree to sell your labor) for a stated wage and stated benefits, you are forgoing other opportunities to do so elsewhere. When businesses decide to renig on thier end of the bargain it is unfair to the employees who agreed to the previous terms. Regardless of whether you think that $17.50/hr + paid benefits is too much for someone to make at a grocery store, they shouldn't have promised that to thier employees if they couldn't come through on the deal. Do you think that the employees could get away with deciding that they are going to do less work? Of course not, and the bisuness shouldn't get away with these shenanigans either.
As for my "creep" comment, when we see people sticking up for themselves agianst unfair treatment we should take our business elswhere to show solidarity for them. To walk right past them and patronize the business shows that you are an apathetic and don't care for your fellow man.
these people are not teachers that are grossly underpaid and underappreciated. these people are cashiers that overestimate their value.
I smell Bullsh!tOriginally posted by: rmrf
<rant>I worked for a union (read: mob) once doing construction. I was pulling $17.50/hour out of it, while the union took another $11.50/hour from my boss. Anyone who believes that the union is a good thing, must not know what exactly goes on. The union is for a person that does everthing half-assed, wants a good paying job that they can't get fired from, and is a slacker at best. Everyone that I worked with that summer had no work ethic, wouldn't do things because it wasn't in their technical job description, and basically did sh!tty work the entire time. A friend of the family is a foreman for a well known construction company in the state, he makes $50/hour and doesn't have to show up at work half the time because he says he has a sore back (read: out hunting or fishing).</rant>
I think this whole thing with the cashiers being part of a union, is just another way for the mob to get their hands on a little more cash.
Originally posted by: rmrf
<rant>I worked for a union (read: mob) once doing construction. I was pulling $17.50/hour out of it, while the union took another $11.50/hour from my boss. Anyone who believes that the union is a good thing, must not know what exactly goes on. The union is for a person that does everthing half-assed, wants a good paying job that they can't get fired from, and is a slacker at best. Everyone that I worked with that summer had no work ethic, wouldn't do things because it wasn't in their technical job description, and basically did sh!tty work the entire time. A friend of the family is a foreman for a well known construction company in the state, he makes $50/hour and doesn't have to show up at work half the time because he says he has a sore back (read: out hunting or fishing).</rant>
I think this whole thing with the cashiers being part of a union, is just another way for the mob to get their hands on a little more cash.
Originally posted by: Zebo
these people are not teachers that are grossly underpaid and underappreciated. these people are cashiers that overestimate their value.
Gawd if I hear this one more time my head is going to explode it think. In a capitalistic society you're paid what your worth. If you don't like it get different job which pays more or less depending on your intrests/modivations. But supply and demand dictates pay.
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
I smell Bullsh!tOriginally posted by: rmrf
<rant>I worked for a union (read: mob) once doing construction. I was pulling $17.50/hour out of it, while the union took another $11.50/hour from my boss. Anyone who believes that the union is a good thing, must not know what exactly goes on. The union is for a person that does everthing half-assed, wants a good paying job that they can't get fired from, and is a slacker at best. Everyone that I worked with that summer had no work ethic, wouldn't do things because it wasn't in their technical job description, and basically did sh!tty work the entire time. A friend of the family is a foreman for a well known construction company in the state, he makes $50/hour and doesn't have to show up at work half the time because he says he has a sore back (read: out hunting or fishing).</rant>
I think this whole thing with the cashiers being part of a union, is just another way for the mob to get their hands on a little more cash.
Originally posted by: jjyiz28
la times
on the left frame click albertsons, i don't know why it's on ralphs first
offer valid till tuesday
coupons for 20 bucks off 100 purchase.
2 for $3 , 12pack of pepsi or 7up, .limit 2.
24pack bud, coors, $10. limit 1
The companies want the employees to pay a premium for their insurance, and its a low one at that.
No I'm not but when I was in the Construction trade I was and I never witnessed anything like you describe..except on the Soprano'sOriginally posted by: rmrf
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
I smell Bullsh!tOriginally posted by: rmrf
<rant>I worked for a union (read: mob) once doing construction. I was pulling $17.50/hour out of it, while the union took another $11.50/hour from my boss. Anyone who believes that the union is a good thing, must not know what exactly goes on. The union is for a person that does everthing half-assed, wants a good paying job that they can't get fired from, and is a slacker at best. Everyone that I worked with that summer had no work ethic, wouldn't do things because it wasn't in their technical job description, and basically did sh!tty work the entire time. A friend of the family is a foreman for a well known construction company in the state, he makes $50/hour and doesn't have to show up at work half the time because he says he has a sore back (read: out hunting or fishing).</rant>
I think this whole thing with the cashiers being part of a union, is just another way for the mob to get their hands on a little more cash.
you must be union.
Originally posted by: Millennium
I don't want to get into the whole Union debate, but I did want to say something about those that said you couldn't make the grocery business your career. I beg to differ 100%. My father started cleaning toilets at age 16 and by the age of 40(without a college degree) he was the Vice President of a Fortune 500 Company and one of the largest Grocery Chains in the Southeast. Not only did he have a very large salary and very good benefits... but the vendor comps we received were insane. We went to Disney World about a year before he died. Guess who paid for that? Not his company or anyone in the family, but rather Coca-Cola footed the entire bill. Once a week Golden Flake would take us out to eat at a Five Star Restaurant. One of their execs would take our immediate family out and foot the normal 200-250 dollar bill. Every week Barber's Dairy would deliver us Orange Juice, Milk, Ice Cream, and other things. Every month or so Pepsi and Coke would pull up to the house in a truck and unload crates of drinks and other products. Don't even get me into the stock benefits or the corporate cars, jets, and travels.
Working in a supermarket is just like any other job. If you do it well you have the chance to succeed and move up.
Originally posted by: rmrf
Originally posted by: Millennium
I don't want to get into the whole Union debate, but I did want to say something about those that said you couldn't make the grocery business your career. I beg to differ 100%. My father started cleaning toilets at age 16 and by the age of 40(without a college degree) he was the Vice President of a Fortune 500 Company and one of the largest Grocery Chains in the Southeast. Not only did he have a very large salary and very good benefits... but the vendor comps we received were insane. We went to Disney World about a year before he died. Guess who paid for that? Not his company or anyone in the family, but rather Coca-Cola footed the entire bill. Once a week Golden Flake would take us out to eat at a Five Star Restaurant. One of their execs would take our immediate family out and foot the normal 200-250 dollar bill. Every week Barber's Dairy would deliver us Orange Juice, Milk, Ice Cream, and other things. Every month or so Pepsi and Coke would pull up to the house in a truck and unload crates of drinks and other products. Don't even get me into the stock benefits or the corporate cars, jets, and travels.
Working in a supermarket is just like any other job. If you do it well you have the chance to succeed and move up.
That may have been true many years ago when only so many people had college degree's, and people were able to get grandfathered in. But now, everyone and his brother has a college degree, so who would you rather hire to work higher up in your company. someone who has been working the register for the past 5 years, or someone with a college degree?
Working at a supermarket is like any job, you might move up to meat cutter, or maybe even the secretary for the manager of the cashiers.
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
No I'm not but when I was in the Construction trade I was and I never witnessed anything like you describe..except on the Soprano'sOriginally posted by: rmrf
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
I smell Bullsh!tOriginally posted by: rmrf
<rant>I worked for a union (read: mob) once doing construction. I was pulling $17.50/hour out of it, while the union took another $11.50/hour from my boss. Anyone who believes that the union is a good thing, must not know what exactly goes on. The union is for a person that does everthing half-assed, wants a good paying job that they can't get fired from, and is a slacker at best. Everyone that I worked with that summer had no work ethic, wouldn't do things because it wasn't in their technical job description, and basically did sh!tty work the entire time. A friend of the family is a foreman for a well known construction company in the state, he makes $50/hour and doesn't have to show up at work half the time because he says he has a sore back (read: out hunting or fishing).</rant>
I think this whole thing with the cashiers being part of a union, is just another way for the mob to get their hands on a little more cash.
you must be union.
Originally posted by: ivol07
Originally posted by: rmrf
Originally posted by: Millennium
I don't want to get into the whole Union debate, but I did want to say something about those that said you couldn't make the grocery business your career. I beg to differ 100%. My father started cleaning toilets at age 16 and by the age of 40(without a college degree) he was the Vice President of a Fortune 500 Company and one of the largest Grocery Chains in the Southeast. Not only did he have a very large salary and very good benefits... but the vendor comps we received were insane. We went to Disney World about a year before he died. Guess who paid for that? Not his company or anyone in the family, but rather Coca-Cola footed the entire bill. Once a week Golden Flake would take us out to eat at a Five Star Restaurant. One of their execs would take our immediate family out and foot the normal 200-250 dollar bill. Every week Barber's Dairy would deliver us Orange Juice, Milk, Ice Cream, and other things. Every month or so Pepsi and Coke would pull up to the house in a truck and unload crates of drinks and other products. Don't even get me into the stock benefits or the corporate cars, jets, and travels.
Working in a supermarket is just like any other job. If you do it well you have the chance to succeed and move up.
That may have been true many years ago when only so many people had college degree's, and people were able to get grandfathered in. But now, everyone and his brother has a college degree, so who would you rather hire to work higher up in your company. someone who has been working the register for the past 5 years, or someone with a college degree?
Working at a supermarket is like any job, you might move up to meat cutter, or maybe even the secretary for the manager of the cashiers.
And it sounds like your Dad was around when this company was barely starting. Now I would wager there is no chance for a bag boy to become Vice President.
Originally posted by: rmrf
Originally posted by: Millennium
I don't want to get into the whole Union debate, but I did want to say something about those that said you couldn't make the grocery business your career. I beg to differ 100%. My father started cleaning toilets at age 16 and by the age of 40(without a college degree) he was the Vice President of a Fortune 500 Company and one of the largest Grocery Chains in the Southeast. Not only did he have a very large salary and very good benefits... but the vendor comps we received were insane. We went to Disney World about a year before he died. Guess who paid for that? Not his company or anyone in the family, but rather Coca-Cola footed the entire bill. Once a week Golden Flake would take us out to eat at a Five Star Restaurant. One of their execs would take our immediate family out and foot the normal 200-250 dollar bill. Every week Barber's Dairy would deliver us Orange Juice, Milk, Ice Cream, and other things. Every month or so Pepsi and Coke would pull up to the house in a truck and unload crates of drinks and other products. Don't even get me into the stock benefits or the corporate cars, jets, and travels.
Working in a supermarket is just like any other job. If you do it well you have the chance to succeed and move up.
That may have been true many years ago when only so many people had college degree's, and people were able to get grandfathered in. But now, everyone and his brother has a college degree, so who would you rather hire to work higher up in your company. someone who has been working the register for the past 5 years, or someone with a college degree?
Working at a supermarket is like any job, you might move up to meat cutter, or maybe even the secretary for the manager of the cashiers.
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: Keego
Your insight has touched me. NOT. When you have a family, benefits are very.. BENEFICIAL.
Sure, but I believe that these types of jobs are not meant to raise a family on. They don't deserve the pay and they don't deserve any benefits. Good for them that they've managed to somehow be paid so much for what a middle schooler can do, but the majority of people are shocked to hear how much they earn for their unskilled/unknowledgeable work.
Originally posted by: ivol07
Originally posted by: rmrf
Originally posted by: Millennium
I don't want to get into the whole Union debate, but I did want to say something about those that said you couldn't make the grocery business your career. I beg to differ 100%. My father started cleaning toilets at age 16 and by the age of 40(without a college degree) he was the Vice President of a Fortune 500 Company and one of the largest Grocery Chains in the Southeast. Not only did he have a very large salary and very good benefits... but the vendor comps we received were insane. We went to Disney World about a year before he died. Guess who paid for that? Not his company or anyone in the family, but rather Coca-Cola footed the entire bill. Once a week Golden Flake would take us out to eat at a Five Star Restaurant. One of their execs would take our immediate family out and foot the normal 200-250 dollar bill. Every week Barber's Dairy would deliver us Orange Juice, Milk, Ice Cream, and other things. Every month or so Pepsi and Coke would pull up to the house in a truck and unload crates of drinks and other products. Don't even get me into the stock benefits or the corporate cars, jets, and travels.
Working in a supermarket is just like any other job. If you do it well you have the chance to succeed and move up.
That may have been true many years ago when only so many people had college degree's, and people were able to get grandfathered in. But now, everyone and his brother has a college degree, so who would you rather hire to work higher up in your company. someone who has been working the register for the past 5 years, or someone with a college degree?
Working at a supermarket is like any job, you might move up to meat cutter, or maybe even the secretary for the manager of the cashiers.
And it sounds like your Dad was around when this company was barely starting. Now I would wager there is no chance for a bag boy to become Vice President.
Originally posted by: rmrf
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
No I'm not but when I was in the Construction trade I was and I never witnessed anything like you describe..except on the Soprano'sOriginally posted by: rmrf
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
I smell Bullsh!tOriginally posted by: rmrf
<rant>I worked for a union (read: mob) once doing construction. I was pulling $17.50/hour out of it, while the union took another $11.50/hour from my boss. Anyone who believes that the union is a good thing, must not know what exactly goes on. The union is for a person that does everthing half-assed, wants a good paying job that they can't get fired from, and is a slacker at best. Everyone that I worked with that summer had no work ethic, wouldn't do things because it wasn't in their technical job description, and basically did sh!tty work the entire time. A friend of the family is a foreman for a well known construction company in the state, he makes $50/hour and doesn't have to show up at work half the time because he says he has a sore back (read: out hunting or fishing).</rant>
I think this whole thing with the cashiers being part of a union, is just another way for the mob to get their hands on a little more cash.
you must be union.
I've never seen the soprano's, so I wouldn't know what you are talking about, but what I say was exactly how I explained it. I was working on a job for the state, and we were required to hire union. We needed to have the place painted, so my boss called a union company that would paint it. The guy didn't show up for about a week, when he finally did, we asked what took him so long, and he told us that he had been arrested. He then proceeded to tell us that he wasn't going to be able to work for a few days, because he needed to get his truck (with all his tools) out of the impound lot. Why wasn't this guy fired? I know that if I went to jail for a week, and had my vehicle impounded with supplies from my workplace I would be fired as soon as I was let out of jail.
Maybe union workers in Massachusets have a little better work ethic than I've seen, but the whole union thing is just a scam. Like one of the replies on this thread said, unions were good for 50 years ago, but now, everyone has a lawyer, and that is good enough.
Originally posted by: Millennium
Originally posted by: rmrf
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
No I'm not but when I was in the Construction trade I was and I never witnessed anything like you describe..except on the Soprano'sOriginally posted by: rmrf
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
I smell Bullsh!tOriginally posted by: rmrf
<rant>I worked for a union (read: mob) once doing construction. I was pulling $17.50/hour out of it, while the union took another $11.50/hour from my boss. Anyone who believes that the union is a good thing, must not know what exactly goes on. The union is for a person that does everthing half-assed, wants a good paying job that they can't get fired from, and is a slacker at best. Everyone that I worked with that summer had no work ethic, wouldn't do things because it wasn't in their technical job description, and basically did sh!tty work the entire time. A friend of the family is a foreman for a well known construction company in the state, he makes $50/hour and doesn't have to show up at work half the time because he says he has a sore back (read: out hunting or fishing).</rant>
I think this whole thing with the cashiers being part of a union, is just another way for the mob to get their hands on a little more cash.
you must be union.
I've never seen the soprano's, so I wouldn't know what you are talking about, but what I say was exactly how I explained it. I was working on a job for the state, and we were required to hire union. We needed to have the place painted, so my boss called a union company that would paint it. The guy didn't show up for about a week, when he finally did, we asked what took him so long, and he told us that he had been arrested. He then proceeded to tell us that he wasn't going to be able to work for a few days, because he needed to get his truck (with all his tools) out of the impound lot. Why wasn't this guy fired? I know that if I went to jail for a week, and had my vehicle impounded with supplies from my workplace I would be fired as soon as I was let out of jail.
Maybe union workers in Massachusets have a little better work ethic than I've seen, but the whole union thing is just a scam. Like one of the replies on this thread said, unions were good for 50 years ago, but now, everyone has a lawyer, and that is good enough.
RD is from California so you are barking up the wrong tree. I too have never seen any of this union evil you are talking about. I don't really care for unions but I have never seen the BS you are talking about.
Originally posted by: rmrf
Originally posted by: Millennium
Originally posted by: rmrf
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
No I'm not but when I was in the Construction trade I was and I never witnessed anything like you describe..except on the Soprano'sOriginally posted by: rmrf
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
I smell Bullsh!tOriginally posted by: rmrf
<rant>I worked for a union (read: mob) once doing construction. I was pulling $17.50/hour out of it, while the union took another $11.50/hour from my boss. Anyone who believes that the union is a good thing, must not know what exactly goes on. The union is for a person that does everthing half-assed, wants a good paying job that they can't get fired from, and is a slacker at best. Everyone that I worked with that summer had no work ethic, wouldn't do things because it wasn't in their technical job description, and basically did sh!tty work the entire time. A friend of the family is a foreman for a well known construction company in the state, he makes $50/hour and doesn't have to show up at work half the time because he says he has a sore back (read: out hunting or fishing).</rant>
I think this whole thing with the cashiers being part of a union, is just another way for the mob to get their hands on a little more cash.
you must be union.
I've never seen the soprano's, so I wouldn't know what you are talking about, but what I say was exactly how I explained it. I was working on a job for the state, and we were required to hire union. We needed to have the place painted, so my boss called a union company that would paint it. The guy didn't show up for about a week, when he finally did, we asked what took him so long, and he told us that he had been arrested. He then proceeded to tell us that he wasn't going to be able to work for a few days, because he needed to get his truck (with all his tools) out of the impound lot. Why wasn't this guy fired? I know that if I went to jail for a week, and had my vehicle impounded with supplies from my workplace I would be fired as soon as I was let out of jail.
Maybe union workers in Massachusets have a little better work ethic than I've seen, but the whole union thing is just a scam. Like one of the replies on this thread said, unions were good for 50 years ago, but now, everyone has a lawyer, and that is good enough.
RD is from California so you are barking up the wrong tree. I too have never seen any of this union evil you are talking about. I don't really care for unions but I have never seen the BS you are talking about.
his fvcking profile says massachusets, so we know is already lying about one thing, why should be take anything he says seriously.