Justice Thomas accepted millions in gifts from right wing mega donor

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ch33zw1z

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It should be noted that SCOTUS essentially legalized bribery a few years back so prosecuting anyone for this, much less a SCOTUS justice, is impossible. So long as someone doesn't hand him a cartoon dollar sign sack with a note that says 'this is for Clarence Thomas to rule in my favor' he is fine.

The best you might be able to do is tax stuff it seems.

Was that this case
 

woolfe9998

Lifer
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What a disgrace he is. He said this about himself in a documentary.

“I don’t have any problem with going to Europe, but I prefer the United States, and I prefer seeing the regular parts of the United States,” Thomas said in a recent interview for a documentary about his life, which Crow helped finance.

“I prefer the RV parks. I prefer the Walmart parking lots to the beaches and things like that. There’s something normal to me about it,” Thomas said. “I come from regular stock, and I prefer that — I prefer being around that.”

Then accepts this from Crow:

• A nine-day yacht trip through an Indonesian archipelago;

• An “extended cruise in New Zealand,” also on the yacht;

• A yacht cruise in the Greek islands (possibly; this one was only implied by Thomas appearing in a photograph wearing a blue polo shirt, of the kind that Crow is known to give to guests on his boat, on which the words “March 2007” and “Greek islands” were printed);

• A visit to the exclusive all-male California retreat called “Bohemian Grove” (a historic gathering place for titans of politics and industry and so forth that has long been of interest to conspiracy theorists); and

• Annual stays at a 105-acre “private lakeside resort” in New York state that features an artificial waterfall, 25 fireplaces, three boathouses, a life-size replica of the Harry Potter character Hagrid’s hut for some reason, and “a 1950s-style soda fountain where Crow’s staff fixes milkshakes.”

Since there are no Walmart parking lots in any of those locales, it must have been torture for him to accept these gifts.

Sure Clarence, you're a real man of the people.
 

HomerJS

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What a disgrace he is. He said this about himself in a documentary.



Then accepts this from Crow:

• A nine-day yacht trip through an Indonesian archipelago;

• An “extended cruise in New Zealand,” also on the yacht;

• A yacht cruise in the Greek islands (possibly; this one was only implied by Thomas appearing in a photograph wearing a blue polo shirt, of the kind that Crow is known to give to guests on his boat, on which the words “March 2007” and “Greek islands” were printed);

• A visit to the exclusive all-male California retreat called “Bohemian Grove” (a historic gathering place for titans of politics and industry and so forth that has long been of interest to conspiracy theorists); and

• Annual stays at a 105-acre “private lakeside resort” in New York state that features an artificial waterfall, 25 fireplaces, three boathouses, a life-size replica of the Harry Potter character Hagrid’s hut for some reason, and “a 1950s-style soda fountain where Crow’s staff fixes milkshakes.”

Since there are no Walmart parking lots in any of those locales, it must have been torture for him to accept these gifts.

Sure Clarence, you're a real man of the people.
I hope Dems in Congress make a referral to the IRS for investigation. If he didn't list these trips on his financial disclosures, I doubt he paid federal taxes.
 
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Supreme Court is basically at the same point of reckoning that college sports is with athletes. We all know you are getting paid for it.

Now what are we actually going to do about it.
 
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Also my wife is a clinician. She helped save a patient close to 10k a year in co-pay costs with meds by helping them apply for various programs. The patient gave her a $100 gift card to a restaurant as a thank you. My wife can't accept it by corporate policy and had to turn it back in.

But one person out of a total of 9 that has absolute ability to control the quality of life for 330+ million people is able to take a fucking yacht ride around the world and getting his ear chewed off for whatever favoring whatever policy favors his rich ass masters is ok.

Fuck that.
 

Pohemi

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I hope Dems in Congress make a referral to the IRS for investigation. If he didn't list these trips on his financial disclosures, I doubt he paid federal taxes.
Don't you understand that he's entitled to do as he pleases? /s


"Describing Crow and his wife, Kathy, as “among our dearest friends,” Thomas said in a statement that he was advised by colleagues on the nation’s highest court and others in the federal judiciary that “this sort of personal hospitality from close personal friends, who did not have business before the Court, was not reportable.” Thomas did not name the other justices or those in the judiciary with whom he had consulted...

...Supreme Court justices, like other federal judges, are required to file an annual financial disclosure report which asks them to list gifts they have received, but provides exemptions for hospitality from friends...

...New York University law professor Stephen Gillers, an authority on legal ethics, said Thomas’ statement “is an abdication of his responsibility” under ethics guidelines.

“Thomas is shamelessly seeking to shift the blame for his failure to report Crow’s princely hospitality to advice he allegedly received from other Justices when he joined the court more than 30 years ago. Most of them are now dead and, conveniently, cannot contradict him,” Gillers wrote in an email.

Charles Geyh, a law professor at Indiana University who studies judicial ethics, wrote in an email that he doubts any justice would have advised Thomas against disclosure if he had laid out the details in ProPublica’s report, “hundreds of thousands of dollars in luxurious travel and accommodations at exotic locales spanning decades, from a benefactor who has a deeply rooted partisan and ideological interest in the future of the Court on which the justice sits.”

NOTHING TO SEE HERE FOLKS.
 
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Paratus

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Also my wife is a clinician. She helped save a patient close to 10k a year in co-pay costs with meds by helping them apply for various programs. The patient gave her a $100 gift card to a restaurant as a thank you. My wife can't accept it by corporate policy and had to turn it back in.

But one person out of a total of 9 that has absolute ability to control the quality of life for 330+ million people is able to take a fucking yacht ride around the world and getting his ear chewed off for whatever favoring whatever policy favors his rich ass masters is ok.

Fuck that.
As a civil servant we are limited to around $20 bucks from any given source per year. We’ve even asked our contractors if they are hosting a meeting and providing breakfast to provide a box to allow us to contribute to the cost.

Of course these rules are for little people like me where we don’t want seem to be playing favorites towards our contractors. It’s not for SCOTUS judges who can rule on laws affecting billions of dollars of legal cases from their “friends”.
 

kitkat22

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I have to financial disclosure everything as a physician. I was given a gift card last year and had to turn it into our hospital foundation because it was anonymous. It was frustrating because it just meant more work for me. I also had to sign forms saying this was unsolicited. Can't even accept a free lunch anymore. And yet, our politicians take donations and bribes left and right. I believe the same standard should apply to politicians that physicians have to do. This has every appearance of violating appropriate ethical boundaries. Whether it is legal or not is another matter, but ethically this is ridiculously bad.
 

akenbennu

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As a civil servant we are limited to around $20 bucks from any given source per year. We’ve even asked our contractors if they are hosting a meeting and providing breakfast to provide a box to allow us to contribute to the cost.

Of course these rules are for little people like me where we don’t want seem to be playing favorites towards our contractors. It’s not for SCOTUS judges who can rule on laws affecting billions of dollars of legal cases from their “friends”.
Yep, we just had our annual ethics training, $25 gifts are the limit and anything larger has to be returned (or if it's food or something perishable) split among the department.
 

hal2kilo

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As a civil servant we are limited to around $20 bucks from any given source per year. We’ve even asked our contractors if they are hosting a meeting and providing breakfast to provide a box to allow us to contribute to the cost.

Of course these rules are for little people like me where we don’t want seem to be playing favorites towards our contractors. It’s not for SCOTUS judges who can rule on laws affecting billions of dollars of legal cases from their “friends”.
Government contractors are also subject to the same things. Had to deduct from my TDY when they had a free lunch provided at meetings. I was amazed with the stuff that my ex sister in law used to get away with in her private non government contract world. It also helped that she was a VP. Seriously, cases of wine?
 
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Pohemi

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Kill Citizens United, end lobbying, and prosecute bribery on both ends (giving AND receiving.)

It'd end most of this kind of fuckery. It'd still go on but it'd also stand out a lot more clearly when it does.
 

Zorba

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As a civil servant we are limited to around $20 bucks from any given source per year. We’ve even asked our contractors if they are hosting a meeting and providing breakfast to provide a box to allow us to contribute to the cost.

Of course these rules are for little people like me where we don’t want seem to be playing favorites towards our contractors. It’s not for SCOTUS judges who can rule on laws affecting billions of dollars of legal cases from their “friends”.
Hell, when I travel with a government customer we can't even share a car from the hotel to a restaurant. We can serve donuts for breakfast, but if we serve bagels or muffins we have to put out a "your fair share" box.
 
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trenchfoot

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So then isn't it just logical to expand this investigation of Thomas and take a really good hard look at those other corrupted conservatives on the SCOTUS and how they are also being rewarded for kissing the rings of their corporate masters. Should be quite interesting to see what turns up.


edit -fixed grammatical mistake
 
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cytg111

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As a civil servant we are limited to around $20 bucks from any given source per year. We’ve even asked our contractors if they are hosting a meeting and providing breakfast to provide a box to allow us to contribute to the cost.

Of course these rules are for little people like me where we don’t want seem to be playing favorites towards our contractors. It’s not for SCOTUS judges who can rule on laws affecting billions of dollars of legal cases from their “friends”.
That's the shit that gets me... there's plenty of fucking rules for regular people while the fuckers of society, erh I mean the upper class our betters, gets to fuck around without ever ever finding out. That shit needs to change. Pitchfork time.
 

Moonbeam

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Thomas is of course owed all these bountiful gifts as paybacks for what the liberals did to him in his confirmation hearings. All those exotic yachting adventures for a self purported homie Walmart lover, delicious.
 
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fskimospy

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I have to financial disclosure everything as a physician. I was given a gift card last year and had to turn it into our hospital foundation because it was anonymous. It was frustrating because it just meant more work for me. I also had to sign forms saying this was unsolicited. Can't even accept a free lunch anymore. And yet, our politicians take donations and bribes left and right. I believe the same standard should apply to politicians that physicians have to do. This has every appearance of violating appropriate ethical boundaries. Whether it is legal or not is another matter, but ethically this is ridiculously bad.
Yes, exactly. If his conduct was legal in some ways that’s an even bigger problem.
 
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fskimospy

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TheVrolok

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Came here to say exactly this. We can't even have a free pen these days. More rules for thee but not for me!

Edit: oh, meant to quote cscpianoman, but forgot Tapatalk is beyond broken now and quote doesn't work. Lost ability to have notifications years ago.
 

iRONic

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If you feel obligated to reward any of those civil servants, doctors, social organizations, etc…

Send a large gift basket or one of those edible arrangements addressed to *the office*!!

Make it large enough so some people have to take stuff home.

I've been a member of the disabled community for several decades. I've heard lots of positive feedback over the times we've done it.
 
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