Justice Thomas accepted millions in gifts from right wing mega donor

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HomerJS

Lifer
Feb 6, 2002
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Looks like Crow was putting money directly in Thomas' pocket and Thomas did not report it, an explicit violation of the law.

Why can't we get the pissed off emoji back? Dems should not wait for Roberts to investigate. The Seante Judiciary Committee needs to open hearings, IMMEDIATELY!!
 

sportage

Lifer
Feb 1, 2008
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Why can't we get the pissed off emoji back? Dems should not wait for Roberts to investigate. The Seante Judiciary Committee needs to open hearings, IMMEDIATELY!!

This is the problem we have. Republicans WOULD if this were an Obama scouts judge, but democrats usually won't. I suppose it has a lot to do with "perceived appearance" of senate democrats being that Thomas is after all BLACK and Thomas is after all married to A WHITE WOMAN. And thus, Chuck Schumer will do nothing.
 
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trenchfoot

Lifer
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Why can't we get the pissed off emoji back? Dems should not wait for Roberts to investigate. The Seante Judiciary Committee needs to open hearings, IMMEDIATELY!!


Methinks the Senators are weighing the risk/benefit factors about pissing off the majority conservatives on the SCOTUS. They don't like to be told to behave themselves when they have so much power to legislate law from the bench. From the way the Thomas' behave themselves it seems they think they have immunized themsleves of any oversight from the other two branches given their undisputed control of the Court and their umitigated willingness to wield that power as they please.
 
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trenchfoot

Lifer
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His presence on the court is a mockery to the American judicial system, undermining the USA at the fundamental level of fairness and decency.


I'd venture to say that every conservative on that court is more corrupt than we'll ever know. There's no such thing as fairness when a class war against the middle class and the poor is being waged in every branch of gov't by the corporate owned conservatives from the top on down to the townships across the nation.
 

kage69

Lifer
Jul 17, 2003
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If only we had a government where the House wasn't controlled by traitors and sociopaths. You couldn't have a better case for impeachment and removal, the corruption from this piece of shit is just stunning. Uncle Thomas is a low IQ grifter who shouldn't even be in charge of a dog pound, what a fucking disgrace this stain of a human being on our highest court. What Trump did to the White House this goon has done to the court.

SCOTUS is at all time lowest credibility and sinking fast. A traitor and spy putting other unqualified partisans on that bench isn't helping.

Hope you're happy Moscow Mitch.
 

SMOGZINN

Lifer
Jun 17, 2005
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They are damning, but he will not resign and congress will not remove him. It’s sad that over the last 10 years or so we have essentially legalized bribery and corruption.
Which is petty problematic since the other Justices are certainly watching this closely, because somewhere out there is Sam Murdoc going all...

If this goes away without any real consequence the other Justices are going to be thinking that it is 'time to get that bling, yo.'
 
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cytg111

Lifer
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Wonder how many times this damning kompromat has been used to sway his vote one way or the other?
 

brycejones

Lifer
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Wonder how many times this damning kompromat has been used to sway his vote one way or the other?
To be honest I think he has been pretty consistent in his rulings from the bench. What's the shittiest choice that fucks over the most people has been his guiding star as a justice.
 
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Pens1566

Lifer
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Wonder how many times this damning kompromat has been used to sway his vote one way or the other?

I read somewhere yesterday that in the 8 Crow related cases that had been identified so far, that he ruled in Crow's favor in all 8. I'm sure it's just coincidence though.
 
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fskimospy

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I read somewhere yesterday that in the 8 Crow related cases that had been identified so far, that he ruled in Crow's favor in all 8. I'm sure it's just coincidence though.
I think it very well could be a coincidence as Thomas has always been an ultra, ultra right wing judge. There's no way to know though, which is kind of the point.

The code of ethics isn't just to prevent clear corruption - it is also there for the integrity of the institution. Simply put, if people can put thousands or millions of dollars in a justice's pocket secretly then we have no reason to believe the court rules with integrity, even if they do!
 

Pens1566

Lifer
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I think it very well could be a coincidence as Thomas has always been an ultra, ultra right wing judge. There's no way to know though, which is kind of the point.

The code of ethics isn't just to prevent clear corruption - it is also there for the integrity of the institution. Simply put, if people can put thousands or millions of dollars in a justice's pocket secretly then we have no reason to believe the court rules with integrity, even if they do!

At this point, I think even if we had a video of Thomas being handed a pile of money with audio explicitly stating he would rule one way, there wouldn't be anything done about it.

We're broken.
 

fskimospy

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At this point, I think even if we had a video of Thomas being handed a pile of money with audio explicitly stating he would rule one way, there wouldn't be anything done about it.

We're broken.
While I don't agree he would survive something THAT obvious it's a sad statement to our system that I'm definitely not sure that's the case.

I mean we had a situation for four years where foreign governments and interest groups spent huge amounts of money at a hotel the president ran down the street from the White House. When Trump lost the presidency all that business immediately dried up but nobody seems bothered by that fact or the completely obvious implications of it.
 

SMOGZINN

Lifer
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At this point, I think even if we had a video of Thomas being handed a pile of money with audio explicitly stating he would rule one way, there wouldn't be anything done about it.

We're broken.
There is not much that can really be done. All that you can really do is impeach him, and as long as he votes the way they want him too, the GOP does not care.
 
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fskimospy

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There is not much that can really be done. All that you can really do is impeach him, and as long as he votes the way they want him too, the GOP does not care.
This is where expanding the court comes in. You will basically never get 67 senators to vote to remove Thomas but you can take away a lot of his power with 51 senators. Now of course so far we haven't been able to do that either but it does seem like an achievable goal, unlike the 67 vote threshold.
 

SMOGZINN

Lifer
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This is where expanding the court comes in. You will basically never get 67 senators to vote to remove Thomas but you can take away a lot of his power with 51 senators. Now of course so far we haven't been able to do that either but it does seem like an achievable goal, unlike the 67 vote threshold.
I agree to an extent, it is one of the few things we can get done, and should. The problem is that it does not really solve the underlying problem. If it is okay for billionaires to bribe SCOTUS then it hardly matters how many people we put on the court, they will just get bought.
If this is allowed to pass without any real consequence then the US Justice system will eventually become a marketplace with the law favoring whoever puts in the highest bid.
 

Perknose

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I think it very well could be a coincidence as Thomas has always been an ultra, ultra right wing judge. There's no way to know though, which is kind of the point.

The code of ethics isn't just to prevent clear corruption - it is also there for the integrity of the institution. Simply put, if people can put thousands or millions of dollars in a justice's pocket secretly then we have no reason to believe the court rules with integrity, even if they do!
^^^ This. Most codes of judicial conduct clearly state that judges must avoid not only "impropriety" but also even the appearance of impropriety!
 

Motostu

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^^^ This. Most codes of judicial conduct clearly state that judges must avoid not only "impropriety" but also even the appearance of impropriety!
Even low level weenies like me who wield no power have to follow similar rules and get trained on this annually.
 
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fskimospy

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I agree to an extent, it is one of the few things we can get done, and should. The problem is that it does not really solve the underlying problem. If it is okay for billionaires to bribe SCOTUS then it hardly matters how many people we put on the court, they will just get bought.
If this is allowed to pass without any real consequence then the US Justice system will eventually become a marketplace with the law favoring whoever puts in the highest bid.
I agree to an extent but also the idea that SCOTUS is immune from all ethics laws is a SCOTUS invented concept. You could nominate judges who would rule against such an idea.
 
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K1052

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In another week we're going to find pics Thomas rolling around in a pile of cash at this dude's house and serious conservatives will basically accuse liberals of kink shaming.

Cartoonishly naked corruption is no impediment for Republican policy goals.
 

Pens1566

Lifer
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While I don't agree he would survive something THAT obvious it's a sad statement to our system that I'm definitely not sure that's the case.

I mean we had a situation for four years where foreign governments and interest groups spent huge amounts of money at a hotel the president ran down the street from the White House. When Trump lost the presidency all that business immediately dried up but nobody seems bothered by that fact or the completely obvious implications of it.

Sorry, I just can see Gym Jordan starting an impeachment proceeding for Thomas under any circumstances. Some variation of Witch-hunt/Soros/BLM/Antifa word salad would be sound bite and then he'd gavel in some hearing where we learn about Hunter Biden's favorite sexual position and how that means Joe Biden is senile.
 
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