K&N Performance Parts?

[techfuzz]

I was thinking about buying a K&N air filter for my car so I cruised over to the K&N website to research them a bit. While researching I came upon their Typhoon Air Intake Systems. I'm not looking to trick my car out like The Fast & The Furious, but I would like to get a bit more performance without paying a small fortune. My days of tinkering and tooling around inside car engines are beyond me.

BTW, I drive a '01 Accord V6.

Thoughts, suggestions? Anyone know anything about these intake systems?

techfuzz

 

[txgixer]

just leave it stock

 

[CraigRT]

K&N adds almost completely no horsepower at all.

the only benefits is that they last longer really. (I have one on my cold air intake)

 

[notfred]

Originally posted by: Yield
K&N adds almost completely no horsepower at all.

the only benefits is that they last longer really. (I have one on my cold air intake)

And even so, you'd buy at LEAST ten stock air filters before you made up the price of that K&N. Maybe if you put 200,000 miles on the K&N filter it'll pay for itself.

It's not worth getting it for a performance increase, you won't even notice the difference.

The "Typhoon air intake system" Like all the other similar products, is nothing but a $200 peice of plastic/metal pipe. If it made a significant difference, don't you think Honda would have sprung for the extra $3 in plastic and gave your car the extra 10% power that they claim?

 

[PsychoAndy]

Originally posted by: notfred

Originally posted by: Yield
K&N adds almost completely no horsepower at all.

the only benefits is that they last longer really. (I have one on my cold air intake)

And even so, you'd buy at LEAST ten stock air filters before you made up the price of that K&N. Maybe if you put 200,000 miles on the K&N filter it'll pay for itself.

It's not worth getting it for a performance increase, you won't even notice the difference.

The "Typhoon air intake system" Like all the other similar products, is nothing but a $200 peice of plastic/metal pipe. If it made a significant difference, don't you think Honda would have sprung for the extra $3 in plastic and gave your car the extra 10% power that they claim?

For me, its $11 for a paper and $50 for a K&N so thats 5 filters for the price of one. Then again, it does say change the air filter every 30,000 miles and the oil every 7500.

-PAB

 

[CraigRT]

K&N filters ARE alot more expensive... but if I remember correnctly, the first K&N infomercials I saw said they guaranteed a million miles out of their filter (of course with proper treatment & using their cleaner) the cleaner is needed to make it last long, and that is ANOTHER reason to make someone not want to buy it.. it's like changing oil.. some people only use synthetic because you can go further between changes... but some people would rather have newer oil more often because it's cheaper anyways. same deal with the filter... do whatever you want. i only wanted a K&N on mine for the durability aspect because it's more succeptable to weather.
- they don't help performance at all though.. especially on smaller, modern cars.

 

K&N adds almost completely no horsepower at all.

That's a pretty broad statement, do you have the dyno figures to back it up ?

I installed a K&N Air Filter on my Corvair engine in my bus, using my G-Force meter i picked up 4.5 horsepower and an increase of 3/4 of a mile per gallon.

they don't help performance at all though.. especially on smaller, modern cars.

Back it with some proof.

 

[PaNsyBoy8]

do you guys really think it does nothing, i don't think its enough were you'll feel it but there'll be some increase, of course you can't dyno the results of airfilters since when u do a dyno ur at a standstill. performance filters help with airflow, and sometimes sound really neat, but its all up to you. I have a CAI with a K&N filter at the end of it and I like it a lot.

 

[LAUST]

Don't do the typhoon intake system stuff unless you help the car breath on the back end (exhaust) a few guys I know that have the LM7's like mine all did a test with the GEN 2 Filtercharger (same as the typhoon), we gained marginal HP in stock configuration but we picked up a lot of heat under the hood as it only helped it breath in, the stock exhaust is still stock exhaust it's desighn is to work with your stock airbox. With aftermarket exhaust added we got abit more power and it abolished the heat issue especially on mine after adding ceramic coated headers, but even then it wasnt' worth it, it was only able to pay for itself with my Supercharger, as it gave me an extra Lb of boost (Stock airbox was 7lbs on 3 1/8 pulley, with Gen 2 it's now 8lbs)

I'd get the replacement filter if you plan to have the car a long time though, once you get used to it washing it out and oiling is easy, plus you only do it about 2 times a year, if it's a leased car or you plan on something else, stick with paper.... most guys I know with honda's drive them into the ground.

 

[notfred]

Originally posted by: PaNsyBoy8
do you guys really think it does nothing, i don't think its enough were you'll feel it but there'll be some increase

Wow, an imeasureable increase in performance for $50! What a good deal!

of course you can't dyno the results of airfilters since when u do a dyno ur at a standstill.

Come back to the discussion when you learn how a car works.

 

[techfuzz]

I actually was taken in by the claims of better performance AND MPG. For me I like to drive me car but I also like to get good MPG when I'm not driving it hard like I sometimes like to do. As an example I like to drive on the mountain roads (more like hills for most people), but the rest of the time I'm going to and from work in a busy city so MPG is kind of important to me.

techfuzz

 

[geno]

All I know, is that when I ditched the stock airbox/filter setup in my car and switched to a K&N cone setup, I gained some more grunt all over the power curve Though this is a turbo vehicle, where air intake flow is much more than that of an N/A engine - but a less restrictive air filter will always help to a certain degree. As far as the drop in filters are concerned, they help a little - but you're better off going with a whole new intake setup to get a noticable difference.

 

[Kadarin]

They do add a few horsepower (which will vary depending on the car), but nothing you'd notice in seat-of-the-pants driving. You need to be moving a significant amount of air through that engine for the air filter to be the most restrictive point. Possible, but not likely.

 

[LAUST]

Originally posted by: techfuzz
I actually was taken in by the claims of better performance AND MPG. For me I like to drive me car but I also like to get good MPG when I'm not driving it hard like I sometimes like to do. As an example I like to drive on the mountain roads (more like hills for most people), but the rest of the time I'm going to and from work in a busy city so MPG is kind of important to me.

techfuzz

Air/Fuel Ratio always has to be corrected by the system, if you add more air, your car will add more fuel.

Milage increases are made up from K&N filters still being able to flow more air then a dirty Paper filter and the engine is not struggling to breath. 95% of cars come stock tuned with the best milage you can really get out of them.

 

[propellerhead]

Poor man's K&N Filter = remove your stock paper filter. Wrap the intake with your momma's pantyhose.

 

[notfred]

Originally posted by: propellerhead
Poor man's K&N Filter = remove your stock paper filter. Wrap the intake with your momma's pantyhose.

The mesh tey use on screen doors is less restrictive.

 

[techfuzz]

Originally posted by: propellerhead
96 Ranger 3.0 liter, V6, 2WD, standard cab.... Oh crap! Wrong forum!

hehehe I had similar thoughts shortly after posting my message, but it appears there are other car buffs among the many geeks that frequent AT forums. Frankly I didn't think I would get so many responses!

techfuzz

 

[Windogg]

Getting better performance and more MPG is easy. Just takes a little time and some wrecking tools.

Remove A/C, front passanger seat, rear passenger seat, spare tire, all jacking equipment, radio, amp, trunk door, and any other dead weight. Take a box of Ex-lax and a long pee before driving. Instant performance and fuel saving.

 

[Evadman]

I have a K&N filter in my truck. Don't ask me if it helps or not, because I have never had my truck dyno'd. I bought it mainly for the fact that it is supposed to flow more than a paper filter, and that ( by my thinking ) an oiled gause would remove more contaminats than a paper one would.

To me, it is $50 in insurance. To each his own though.

 

[iamwiz82]

I have one in my Grand Cherokee, but it came with it. I'm content with normal filters. My ZJ isnt a performance beast anyways, its for playing.

here is my baby

i wasnt in it cuz i was cheering on my buddy in his CJ5. This is the first and probably only time anyone here will see my picture. I'm in the background with the light blue shirt taking a pic