K10 on September 10

JAG87

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I dont know why, but I'm sooooo not excited for barcelona. its just taking way too long to come out, just like R600, and things lose their appeal when they take too long to get to the market. I hope AMD can prove me wrong and get me excited, because right now I'm eyeballing Yorkfield.
 

TechBunny

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I agree, unless I see some real benchmarks and temps at real clock speeds regarding Barcelona I really am not that intrigued.
 

StopSign

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K10 will surely be slower than Conroe. Almost all signs point to scaling problems. Unless it's tremendously faster clock-for-clock than Conroe, K10 will be just as underwhelming as R600.
 

covert24

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plus its from the inquirer. Idk why people keep posting links from there as they are usually all bs.
 

VirtualLarry

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I guess we can look forward to price drops on their quad-core chips once these AMD chips surface. Maybe not though, the listed AMD prices seem too high already, but I'm guessing that those are for "server" chips, not desktop units.
 

coolpurplefan

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Maybe prices are high because they think they will have an edge.

Either that or it's going to be a weird situation like the HD 2900 XT.
 

DrMrLordX

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Not bad, though I'd be happier if they were releasing something we could play with on desktop boards.
 

manowar821

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Originally posted by: StopSign
K10 will surely be slower than Conroe. Almost all signs point to scaling problems. Unless it's tremendously faster clock-for-clock than Conroe, K10 will be just as underwhelming as R600.

Wait now, I thought most people understood that the R600 performance issues are due to driver immaturity?

I'm hoping to be surprised by AMD, really.
 

StopSign

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I'm not referring to R600's performance. It looked like an absolute monster on paper but its actual performance barely matches an 8800GTS. Drivers can only do so much for a card. "Mature" drivers will not make R600 faster than the 8800GTX.

K10 looks really good on paper but it also has been delayed and delayed.
 

Gikaseixas

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Originally posted by: StopSign
I'm not referring to R600's performance. It looked like an absolute monster on paper but its actual performance barely matches an 8800GTS. Drivers can only do so much for a card. "Mature" drivers will not make R600 faster than the 8800GTX.

K10 looks really good on paper but it also has been delayed and delayed.



Because of new drivers released it now beats the GTS in most scenarios. I don't believe it will ever be faster than a GTX but it got closer.
 

Gary Key

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Originally posted by: coolpurplefan
I want to see a 1.9 GHz K10 beat a 3 GHz C2D.

I will be glad when we have a Barcelona that will do 1.9GHz.... The B02 steppings have finally arrived and most of the issues we noticed with the B00/B01 are gone, base clock speeds are up to 1.8GHz, 2.0GHz is being sampled to certain partners now.
 

JAG87

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Originally posted by: Gary Key
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: coolpurplefan
I want to see a 1.9 GHz K10 beat a 3 GHz C2D. </end quote></div>

I will be glad when we have a Barcelona that will do 1.9GHz.... The B02 steppings have finally arrived and most of the issues we noticed with the B00/B01 are gone, base clock speeds are up to 1.8GHz, 2.0GHz is being sampled to certain partners now.

bahahahaha, good luck competing against 3.6 to 4 ghz penryn chips. poor amd, i wont be seeing their green stickers for a while.
 

Skott

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I been reading that K10 isnt going to beat Intel procs so I'm not excited. A shame really. I'd like to see AMD come back and dethrone Intel. It'd keep Intel on their toes and it'd be good for consumers. The only thing I see really positive so far from K10 is that prices will be affected. Intel will slash prices just to beat on AMD some more and AMD will lower prices more to try to compete with Intel dominance. So on the performance side K10 is ho-hum but the price wars will be nice.

Just my feelings about it.
 

bryanW1995

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Originally posted by: Gary Key
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: coolpurplefan
I want to see a 1.9 GHz K10 beat a 3 GHz C2D. </end></div>

I will be glad when we have a Barcelona that will do 1.9GHz.... The B02 steppings have finally arrived and most of the issues we noticed with the B00/B01 are gone, base clock speeds are up to 1.8GHz, 2.0GHz is being sampled to certain partners now.

Any comment on the "1.9 ghz k10 beat(ing) a 3ghz c2d"?
 

jhtrico1850

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Originally posted by: Gikaseixas


Because of new drivers released it now beats the GTS in most scenarios. I don't believe it will ever be faster than a GTX but it got closer.

Most scenarios without AA right?
 

coolpurplefan

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Originally posted by: bryanW1995
Any comment on the "1.9 ghz k10 beat(ing) a 3ghz c2d"?

Uh, I never said that would happen.

I just looked at the price structure again. Yeah, that DOES seem strange. For every 100 MHz move up, the price starts to go up by leaps and bounds.

Makes you wonder if this is legitimate.

 

Cookie Monster

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One problem is either the yields or its just very hard to clock barcelona. This is bad news because OCing must be a BIG no, and availability could also be the problem for the highest clocked parts (that will undoubtedly use the cherry picked cores).
 

covert24

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The Barcelona chips are the 'Server' line of the series and Phenom will be the 'Desktop/Enthusiast' line of the series.
 
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