on my third system, i have a soyo 5eam+ and k62500, its got a golden orb on it, itried to up it just to see what it would do,it wouldnt go 550 even with 2.6 volts, so i said screw it its my sons system, so i didnt want him yellin at me all the time, my computers messed up, so i just run it stock, i think the k62s were just getting to the top of what they can do.now my daughters computer has k63+ 450 with ga5ax, havent played with it to much, but 550 booted right up at stock vcore, and it hasnt crashed once, it has a fop32 on it, i would up fsb and try higher bus, and mhz, but she wont let me touch it, she says everytime i mess with her computer it screws up, shes probably right, those k63+ overclock really well if you can get your hands on one, and your motherboard supports it, hers just sees it as a k63, but it benches and runs real well.