K7S5A Help!!!!

BoKingWen

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If I fried a CPU on this mobo, will I fired the the mobo too??? I was running a Druon without the heatsink and fan for about 10 second and the chip is fired. So I got a new CPU and new Memory. It was working for about 30min, just as I am about to install the OS to the comptuer. The computer will not start, not even the beep sound. I try clear the CMOS like 3 millions times and still no luck. Taket the sucker apart and rebuild it like 4 times and no luck either. Try different memory, CPU, and video card still no luck, any help will be nice.

Something off topic as I had posted before I had never had so much computer problem with my life, after I switch from Intel to AMD. This is strightly my own opinions, so please don't yell at me. I just feel like expressing my feeling after all the time I spend on the stupid computer. AMD had bought me nothing but trouble, there stocks is falling like dog shxt too.......:|
 

TheWart

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1. have an extra mobo to borrow/try with your new CPU/RAM to test it?

2. RMA the board, it is prolly dead if you tested diff CPUs etc.

as far as AMD being bad, that is not true. AMD retail CPUs come with stock fans, as do the Pentiums. it's assumed that when you get OEM stuff you are knowledgeable enough to do OEM work (in this case not run the CPU without an hsf).
 

mechBgon

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Did your board power on unexpectedly when you plugged in your power supply? Most boards today can be set up to do that if the owner wants to. If you intentionally operated the system with no heatsink, don't blame AMD for the results. As for testing, try a different motherboard like TheWart says.

Maybe motherboards should start coming with some kind of interlock switch that prevents power from going to the CPU unless a heatsink is present. This would probably be pretty easy to build into the cam end of the CPU socket, simply a little switch that sticks up and is held down by a heatsink.
 

DieHardware

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A Duron will definitely be broken when or should I say BoKingWen run without the HSF for ten seconds.
 

shaunf

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Never ever ever underestimate the importance of a *good* power supply when troubleshooting hardware issues. PS brand & wattage haven't been mentioned yet... I've been using a 400W Antec with my K7S5A & 1.4ghz athlon w/ 4 IDE drives & 2 CDROM's and the only problems I've had are related to display quality on my secondary (Matrox g200) video card & the scratchy/skipping sound from my SBLive during periods of high disk activity and/or lots of drawing happening on the secondary display.
 

busmaster11

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I hate newbies b!tching...

I have the same board, plus a KT266A and an nForce... The KT266A's been the only one causing problems for me.

As for you, there's always an inherent risk in purchasing a generic board. The K7S5A's solid, stable and cheap as far as I'm concerned, but with some rough edges that might confuse some newbies...

And if you ever admit to running your machine intentionally w/o hs/f for any amount of time, prepare to be flamed for your idiocy.

Admittedly, AMD makes some rather fragile chips compared to Intel, and I still don't understand why its designed to have so little contact with the hs... But still, as tenoc said, look in the mirror.



Originally posted by: BoKingWen
If I fried a CPU on this mobo, will I fired the the mobo too??? I was running a Druon without the heatsink and fan for about 10 second and the chip is fired. So I got a new CPU and new Memory. It was working for about 30min, just as I am about to install the OS to the comptuer. The computer will not start, not even the beep sound. I try clear the CMOS like 3 millions times and still no luck. Taket the sucker apart and rebuild it like 4 times and no luck either. Try different memory, CPU, and video card still no luck, any help will be nice.

Something off topic as I had posted before I had never had so much computer problem with my life, after I switch from Intel to AMD. This is strightly my own opinions, so please don't yell at me. I just feel like expressing my feeling after all the time I spend on the stupid computer. AMD had bought me nothing but trouble, there stocks is falling like dog shxt too.......:|

 

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Originally posted by: BoKingWen
If I fried a CPU on this mobo, will I fired the the mobo too??? I was running a Druon without the heatsink and fan for about 10 second and the chip is fired. So I got a new CPU and new Memory. It was working for about 30min, just as I am about to install the OS to the comptuer. The computer will not start, not even the beep sound. I try clear the CMOS like 3 millions times and still no luck. Taket the sucker apart and rebuild it like 4 times and no luck either. Try different memory, CPU, and video card still no luck, any help will be nice.

Something off topic as I had posted before I had never had so much computer problem with my life, after I switch from Intel to AMD. This is strightly my own opinions, so please don't yell at me. I just feel like expressing my feeling after all the time I spend on the stupid computer. AMD had bought me nothing but trouble, there stocks is falling like dog shxt too.......:|
Dude! your gettin' a Dell I hope!!! because it sounds like you are all thumbs with building systems :Q
 

Regalk

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"Something off topic as I had posted before I had never had so much computer problem with my life"

Now that is really off topic but if it was me I would have kept quiet about it.
I will never understand why people keep buying that board. The A7S333 (and MSI's version) is out now so there is really no more need for that POS.
 

reformat

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I've used this board in three systems, using both Durons and Athlons. No problems in 9 months. AMD=Quality. The K7S5A is a great board, except for the lack of OCing.
 

intelbugger

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Originally posted by: busmaster11
I hate newbies b!tching...

I have the same board, plus a KT266A and an nForce... The KT266A's been the only one causing problems for me.


Ditto here...

The K7S5a has been one of the most stable boards i've seen in recent times. I've tried two kt266a boards from MSI and Jetway..i must say i would have gone back to k7s5a had it been available now.

 

Hendrik

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I will never understand why people keep buying that board. The A7S333 (and MSI's version) is out now so there is really no more need for that POS.

It's actually very easy to understand why people, including myself, continue to buy the K7S5A: it's a great board available at an amazing price. I have also used the A7S333, and I like it a lot, too. Actually, I didn't notice any difference either in performance or in stability. In months of using both, I have not seen a single crash (!!!) on either. One difference is that the K7S5A has onboard ethernet, whereas the A7S333 doesn't; and the ECS board is about $12 cheaper.

Of course, the ASUS board allows you to run DDR 2700 memory, and it has some OC features in the BIOS. But the faster memory is, in my opinion, not worth the extra expense (unless you can also run the CPU at 166 MHz FSB), and given the prices of Athlon XP CPUs these days, there doesn't seem to me to be any motivation left to overclock.
 

BoKingWen

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First of all I am not a newbee, I had build so many comptuers in my live it just happens to be all Intel. I am not bitching at the board also. The board really fired when I fried the cpu. I sent in for a RMA and it works fine now. I was posting for help not bitching about the board is bad. I dont understand why people had to be so mean.

Anyway thanks for all your replys and I learned my lesson dont run the cpu without the fan and HS.
 

DragonWizard

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I have been building computer systems for about 15 years now and I have not seen a motherboard as bad as the ECS K7S5A. This is the ultimate POS motherboard, just like its sister company PC CHIPS. The AMD processor is a solid contender against Intel. If you go over to the elitegroup website you will find over 2000 posted problems with this motherboard in their knowledgebase. You get what you pay for and this is a cheap board. Spend a little extra and get the EPOX 8TTX2+ if money is an issue. Or spend the money and go with ASUS, ABIT or GIGABYTE. All of these boards will be fast and easily overclocked with optimum stability. Good Luck either way!
 

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Originally posted by: DragonWizard
I have been building computer systems for about 15 years now and I have not seen a motherboard as bad as the ECS K7S5A. This is the ultimate POS motherboard, just like its sister company PC CHIPS. The AMD processor is a solid contender against Intel. If you go over to the elitegroup website you will find over 2000 posted problems with this motherboard in their knowledgebase. You get what you pay for and this is a cheap board. Spend a little extra and get the EPOX 8TTX2+ if money is an issue. Or spend the money and go with ASUS, ABIT or GIGABYTE. All of these boards will be fast and easily overclocked with optimum stability. Good Luck either way!
CONGRATULATIONS!!!!! Spreading FUD on your very first post!
 

waqasusman

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I was wary of buying k7s5a because of the people like DragonWizard who had been warning about too many complaints, but I was tight on budget and I needed SDR+DDR support so I finally decided to buy this board, I bought three of these, and not one of them caused any problem whatsoever (oh yeah I had to re-seat the VGA card and RAM once because of sturdy slots).

and I am not an "expert", I bought my first PC three years ago (built by a vendor), and this k7s5a was the first system that I built from scratch. There may be a few bad k7s5a's out there, but perhaps people ran away to RMA it instead of finding/solving the problems like poor RAM, power supply and even improperly seated RAM, VGA etc.

If it's a crappy board, why do people keep on buying it?
 

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Originally posted by: waqasusman
I was wary of buying k7s5a because of the people like DragonWizard who had been warning about too many complaints, but I was tight on budget and I needed SDR+DDR support so I finally decided to buy this board, I bought three of these, and not one of them caused any problem whatsoever (oh yeah I had to re-seat the VGA card and RAM once because of sturdy slots).

and I am not an "expert", I bought my first PC three years ago (built by a vendor), and this k7s5a was the first system that I built from scratch. There may be a few bad k7s5a's out there, but perhaps people ran away to RMA it instead of finding/solving the problems like poor RAM, power supply and even improperly seated RAM, VGA etc.

If it's a crappy board, why do people keep on buying it?
Well said sir!
 

DragonWizard

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The only reason people keep buying this board and others like it is because it is so cheap. Four out of five of these boards I have done an install with has failed in an extreme way. The only board out of the five that worked, only worked after disabling sound, modem and network which all shared IRQ 11. It now workes ok but does not compare to my ASUS or ABIT systems. I firmly believe you get what you pay for!
 

DrZ7

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Hello there,
I've also had a lot of problems with this motherboard, but I know that some of it stemmed for bad memory...but anyway these guys are right, any of todays CPU's and pretty much every other component in your computer can't run without adequate cooling. By adequate I mean good, active, cooling. I remember once when one of my CPU fan died on a 1.2ghz it only took a half an hour to fry even with the heatsink! As far as AMD goes, they make very good CPU's in my opinion as long as you know what you are doing. At our institution we had 10 computers running Medal of Honor for fun one day and near all the Intel ones crashed, while neither of the AMD based ones did...of course this was because of a combination of things, mainly good setup and proper tweaking. So hey, if you need ANY help throughout any of the process of getting that computer working just give me a ring at DrZ_7@hotmail.com. Good luck.

Tim Park
--Oh and by the way a very good place to buy components from is www.newegg.com, they deliver quick and have good support. Also, I like to build my computers with MSI because of their stability, performance and nice features like a D-bracket that gives you extra USB ports and a easy to use diagnostic system(no more beep codes!) .
 

cr4pz0r

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I had used an ECS K7S5A for just two months. But when I found that all of its PCI slots share IRQs with something else on the motherboard [PCI1 always share the same IRQ as the AGP slot (IRQ 11), and the other PCI slots and onboard sound and NIC all share the same IRQs as the USB controller/hub (IRQ 5 and IRQ 10) - with PCI2, PCI3 and PCI5 all sharing the same IRQ as each other], with no way whatsoever of changing those assignments, I bit the dust and bought an Abit KR7A-133. Without the Highpoint HPT372 RAID controller, PCI slot 5 is unshared. (I would have had no unshared IRQs had I gone with the RAID-equipped KR7A-133R; all of the PCI slots on the RAID-equipped mobo would have shared the same IRQ as either another PCI slot, the AGP slot, or the HPT372 controller.) Mine, however, came with a bad floppy controller out of the box (but that problem was fixed by re-flashing the BIOS).

You get what you pay for.
 
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