Originally posted by: GDaddy
With all of what Intel is coming out with now, and also thier future plans are moving up, will the K8L be enough? And anyone hear anything on a K9?
Originally posted by: GDaddy
With all of what Intel is coming out with now, and also thier future plans are moving up, will the K8L be enough? And anyone hear anything on a K9?
Originally posted by: GDaddy
With all of what Intel is coming out with now, and also thier future plans are moving up, will the K8L be enough? And anyone hear anything on a K9?
Originally posted by: Henny
However I don't see Intel stumbling after the beating they've taken. (especially with Otellini at the helm.)
Originally posted by: Aflac
Originally posted by: Henny
However I don't see Intel stumbling after the beating they've taken. (especially with Otellini at the helm.)
I wouldn't be too sure about that. Intel has a tendency to get cocky and they might forget about AMD while basking in the Conroe glory. There's no telling what's going to happen, though.
Originally posted by: Aflac
Originally posted by: Henny
However I don't see Intel stumbling after the beating they've taken. (especially with Otellini at the helm.)
I wouldn't be too sure about that. Intel has a tendency to get cocky and they might forget about AMD while basking in the Conroe glory. There's no telling what's going to happen, though.
Of course I can't divulge what Otellini said in his webcast to employees yesterday - but I can assure you I did NOT hear him say we can now kick back and rest on our laurels with Conroe.Originally posted by: Aflac
Intel has a tendency to get cocky and they might forget about AMD while basking in the Conroe glory. There's no telling what's going to happen, though.
Originally posted by: Henny
Originally posted by: GDaddy
With all of what Intel is coming out with now, and also thier future plans are moving up, will the K8L be enough? And anyone hear anything on a K9?
If they can pull K8L into '07 and if Intel stumbles then they could be OK.
However I don't see Intel stumbling after the beating they've taken. (especially with Otellini at the helm.)
However AMD worries me. They're prancing around and flirting with ATI, talking about new Fab sites, etc. It's like they're loosing focus and focus is what they need right now.
Originally posted by: GDaddy
And i dont think they can stand a price war with Intel with slower processors. Do you think with thier recnt expansion they will end up imploding?
Originally posted by: Blazin Trav
Originally posted by: GDaddy
And i dont think they can stand a price war with Intel with slower processors. Do you think with thier recnt expansion they will end up imploding?
I think you are an Intel fanboy.
Originally posted by: Pederv
I think Intel is basically laying out its processor lineup for each platform. When conroe gets released there will probally be enough available to satisfy the initial rush, then it will be waiting for backorders to get filled. As production increases, the cream will be scimmed and used to launch the laptop platform, while the desktop market can't keep up with demand. As production continues to increase, the best of the cream is taken and used to make the quad cores. So unless Intel is considerably ahead of schedule, 25% total production (by the end of the year) isn't going to satisfy the demand for the most sought after CPU for all platforms. If Intel wasn't pricing thier CPU's to push AMD out of the market, they should have marked down thier current available products and charged more for Conroe. Then as Conroe production increased, reduce it's price. That would probably reduce Conroe shortages and clean out old inventory quicker. At the same time Intel would make more money.
What may affect AMD's actual price drops is Intels ability to maintain supply. The same aplies for AMD's need of K8L. If a dual Cloverton? can beat a 4 processor-dual core Opteron, AMD will push a little harder to get the quad core Opterons out.
Originally posted by: GDaddy
With all of what Intel is coming out with now, and also thier future plans are moving up, will the K8L be enough? And anyone hear anything on a K9?
Originally posted by: zsdersw
Performing better than Conroe would be a relatively easy thing to conclude if Conroe's clock speeds at launch are all there is to be. They're not. At this point, it's not reasonable to come to any conclusions about K8L's performance against Conroe.
Originally posted by: Regs
I believe there was an interview with one of the AMD executives a month back talking about an architecture built new from the ground up. People have labeled this the K10 as everybody agreed that the K9 would sound...funny. Rumor has its release in 2008 but who knows. For the time being K8L in 07 will be the short term gap plugger. Though we know relatively little about the upcoming processors for AMD and what they will offer. The "K10"s release will likely be based on K8L's success and the maturity of the 65nm manufacturing process.
Originally posted by: Viditor
Originally posted by: zsdersw
Performing better than Conroe would be a relatively easy thing to conclude if Conroe's clock speeds at launch are all there is to be. They're not. At this point, it's not reasonable to come to any conclusions about K8L's performance against Conroe.
Agreed...both AMD and Intel are planning big clockspeed increases. And I agree that we can't draw conclusions based on rumours and partial information.
Originally posted by: Soviet
Originally posted by: GDaddy
With all of what Intel is coming out with now, and also thier future plans are moving up, will the K8L be enough? And anyone hear anything on a K9?
Ill also take a stab and say no, and if i see your lost dog ill give you a call
Seriously though, the K9 was either scrapped or renamed K10, likely due to the confusion with canine.