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Stokely

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Jun 5, 2017
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Yep, All it takes is a single Howard Dean moment.
If you are a Democrat, yep.

Trump can say I grab women by the pussy and any number of other things and not lose the Christian vote. Which says a ton about them.

Also not getting too optimistic. 2016 election night did a number on me.

Harris has built-in handicaps with the EC and inevitable GOP election suppression/interference. She has to win by more than Trump does to actually win.

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re: armed forces

It's really rich when a draft dodger and pencil-pushing rear-echelon combat correspondent (aka Private Joker, but without the actual combat) think they can come after a 24 year vet with a higher rank. No idea how that'll play among military types. I notice so far Walz isn't reciprocating by shitting on Vance's military service.
 

Indus

Lifer
May 11, 2002
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Holy shit. She is gonna win isnt she?
Its becoming a movement eclipsing that of what MAGA was even at its height.
Finally.
She gonna save US democracy and by extension the rest of us.
Is there Europeans for Kamala shirts out there? lol

Uhhh you do know Republicans think democracy is on the ballot and they don't want devilish democrats giving out free money for people not to be in student loan debt. That's socialism and every democracy ends in socialism.. so they must have fascism and ethnic cleansing and every non christian executed right??


And Trump is right.. they don't even need to vote.. they have the fix in with not certifying an election.. throwing the whole process into chaos and the SCOTUS saying Trump and Republicans win!

While this might seem a dysotopian reality to you.. it's threat is very real..

They stole 2000 gore's win incase you forgot with a 5-4 majority and now they have a 6-3 after stealing 3 scotus seats!
 
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I made E4 or 5 and didn't even know it. Time in mostly. Only realized it when I had to dig my papers out a year or so back for something else.
 

[DHT]Osiris

Lifer
Dec 15, 2015
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Marines. Lance Corporal.

And I was saying that him being an E3 after his full 4 is really UN-impressive.
Oh hell i misread what you said, i thought you said E4 in 4... okay, yeah still an E3 might be weird, I'd need details before i decided to give a shit though.
 

Roger Wilco

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Mar 20, 2017
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Let the dick-kicking commence.

“Re: Trump’s self-announced press conference today at 2 pm: He’s panicking. I’ve seen this play many times. He thinks his team is failing him & no one can speak better/“save” his campaign/defend him but him. He hates the coverage Harris is getting & thinks only he can fix it.”

 

cytg111

Lifer
Mar 17, 2008
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Uhhh you do know Republicans think democracy is on the ballot and they don't want devilish democrats giving out free money for people not to be in student loan debt. That's socialism and every democracy ends in socialism.. so they must have fascism and ethnic cleansing and every non christian executed right??


And Trump is right.. they don't even need to vote.. they have the fix in with not certifying an election.. throwing the whole process into chaos and the SCOTUS saying Trump and Republicans win!

While this might seem a dysotopian reality to you.. it's threat is very real..

They stole 2000 gore's win incase you forgot with a 5-4 majority and now they have a 6-3 after stealing 3 scotus seats!
I 100% agree but they're not incumbent they dont have the chiefs and if scotus drags shit out till February Biden is still immune and its seal team 6 time.
I 100% expect a coup attempt. I also expect it to fail.
 

Muse

Lifer
Jul 11, 2001
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Eh, not really. E4 in 4 was pretty common in the AF when I was in at least, especially if you started at e1 instead of getting some of the sign-on up steps. If he was still e3 at like 6 I'd be concerned.

He was army? Guard?
Marines PR guy.
 

Dave_5k

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May 23, 2017
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He did PR/journalism for an airwing repair outfit. Oh, and he was only an E3 after his 4 yrs. Really hard to do that last part ...
Quite possible - while I don't have first hand knowledge, I'd fully expect the marines to sharply limit promotions under the communications/PR MOS that Vance was in. While getting the E3 is basically automatic for any marine during their 2nd year, E4 as I understand it is subject to competitive quotas. And in marines E4 normally requires taking on a squad (8 person team) leadership role - which Vance was apparently unqualified for.
 
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[DHT]Osiris

Lifer
Dec 15, 2015
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Convicted felons should sure as shit be allowed to vote. But run for POTUS? I don't think so.
I think restriction from the thing you were criming is fair. I don't want someone convicted on a felony gun charge to own guns, just like I don't want someone convicted of voter fraud to vote.
 

brycejones

Lifer
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Convicted felons should sure as shit be allowed to vote. But run for POTUS? I don't think so.
They should still be allowed to run for POTUS. We see it too often where authoritarian regimes convict their opponents of trumped up charges that just happen to prevent them from running for office.
 
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Muse

Lifer
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They should still be allowed to run for POTUS. We see it too often where authoritarian regimes convict their opponents of trumped up charges that just happen to prevent them from running for office.
OK, that makes sense. But not vote? Rehabilitation has to be the top priority. Allowing felons to engage in the processes of determining the underpinnings of society at large should be considered a positive for all concerned, felons and their communities.
 

brycejones

Lifer
Oct 18, 2005
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OK, that makes sense. But not vote?
I think they should be able to vote as well. Denying felons the ability to vote is one of the ways minorities have been kept down in the south. We refer to doing time as paying your debt to society. I believe when you've paid that debt we need to fully welcome you back to society mainly in the name of reducing recidivism. Except for that @BoomerD guy though he is pretty fucked up.
 

hal2kilo

Lifer
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I 100% agree but they're not incumbent they dont have the chiefs and if scotus drags shit out till February Biden is still immune and its seal team 6 time.
I 100% expect a coup attempt. I also expect it to fail.
Yea, the immunity that the SCOTUS made up, will be a god send.
 

Muse

Lifer
Jul 11, 2001
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I think they should be able to vote as well. Denying felons the ability to vote is one of the ways minorities have been kept down in the south. We refer to doing time as paying your debt to society. I believe when you've paid that debt we need to fully welcome you back to society mainly in the name of reducing recidivism. Except for that @BoomerD guy though he is pretty fucked up.
I think felons should be allowed to vote, period, even before they have "paid their debt to society," i.e. while incarcerated, etc. I mean how much damage can they do with a pen, ballot and voter information guides?
 
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