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Pens1566

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Quite possible - while I don't have first hand knowledge, I'd fully expect the marines to sharply limit promotions under the communications/PR MOS that Vance was in. While getting the E3 is basically automatic for any marine during their 2nd year, E4 as I understand it is subject to competitive quotas. And in marines E4 normally requires taking on a squad (8 person team) leadership role - which Vance was apparently unqualified for.

I don't have first hand knowledge either. Just going off of what I heard/read from actual Marines that the less congested MOSes were easier to escape being a "terminal Lance". I would think that being Private Joker falls into that bucket vs say, infantry.
 

Meghan54

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Eh, not really. E4 in 4 was pretty common in the AF when I was in at least, especially if you started at e1 instead of getting some of the sign-on up steps. If he was still e3 at like 6 I'd be concerned.

He was army? Guard?
I made E-5 in just under 2 years. E-4 in 3 should be easy as falling off a couch.
 

Muse

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Live Updated (NYTimes)
Aug. 8, 2024, 4:07 p.m. ET28 minutes ago

Live Election Updates: Trump and Harris Agree to September Debate on ABC, Network Says​

The former president offered two other dates to debate the Democratic nominee in a news conference from Mar-a-Lago
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Edit: I will NOT watch Trump's 2PM address. The only live thing with him I would watch is him debasing himself attempting to debate Kamala Harris. I boycotted the RNC, saw only some lowlights.
 

Muse

Lifer
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Saw a video clip today in which Vance said he would debate Harris, what a nitwit!
 

MrSquished

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we made greenman vote for this guy because greenman is sad about internet people posting words.
Give the guy a break he's voting for Trump because Greenman Is ashit stain on humanity and many of us ha ve known this for years now.

I called this years back. Y'all may not like the tone of my messages but they have been and are exactly correct about that white trash mother fucker.
 

cytg111

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Uhhh you do know Republicans think democracy is on the ballot and they don't want devilish democrats giving out free money for people not to be in student loan debt. That's socialism and every democracy ends in socialism.. so they must have fascism and ethnic cleansing and every non christian executed right??


And Trump is right.. they don't even need to vote.. they have the fix in with not certifying an election.. throwing the whole process into chaos and the SCOTUS saying Trump and Republicans win!

While this might seem a dysotopian reality to you.. it's threat is very real..

They stole 2000 gore's win incase you forgot with a 5-4 majority and now they have a 6-3 after stealing 3 scotus seats!

"It is worse this election than previous because this year, the GOP is far more organized. They might have tried to subvert(block certification of results) the results in a handful of places in 2020 and 2022, but this year, they will try to subvert them all, setting the stage now for what's to come in November".

"Pushing through new rules that would make it easier for county officials to refuse election results"

"Encouraging Republican officials at every level to refuse certification no matter the result"



- Get ready .
 

Indus

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"It is worse this election than previous because this year, the GOP is far more organized. They might have tried to subvert(block certification of results) the results in a handful of places in 2020 and 2022, but this year, they will try to subvert them all, setting the stage now for what's to come in November".

"Pushing through new rules that would make it easier for county officials to refuse election results"

"Encouraging Republican officials at every level to refuse certification no matter the result"



- Get ready .

Yah but trumpanzees like pcgecko11 have dementia and don't realize it. They are stuck on Nixon Good, McGovern Bad.
 

cytg111

Lifer
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Yah but trumpanzees like pcgecko11 have dementia and don't realize it. They are stuck on Nixon Good, McGovern Bad.
Who ever is set on Trump now is never gonna budge... It's all about those independents and moderate R's that can be swayed from the sheer stink of Trump vs someone not 200yo and vibrant.
For the record, I dont think geek is on the Trump train anymore. Hell if Felix has jumped ship... that's a bad outlook for the Trump campaign.
 

Indus

Lifer
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Who ever is set on Trump now is never gonna budge... It's all about those independents and moderate R's that can be swayed from the sheer stink of Trump vs someone not 200yo and vibrant.
For the record, I dont think geek is on the Trump train anymore. Hell if Felix has jumped ship... that's a bad outlook for the Trump campaign.

Lets be honest they'll vote for Hannibal Lecter before a reasonable person.. so I'm not entirely convinced they've gotten off the Trump train.

I did think Felix was genuinely off but either he's getting paid to post garbage or his default setting is the right wing social media feed.
 
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Uhtrinity

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I made E-5 in just under 2 years. E-4 in 3 should be easy as falling off a couch.
In the Army it depended upon when you served. I was in for 5 years, from Jan 91 through Jan 95. Due to the Gulf War promotion points were really high for about 3 - 4 years. I went in as E3, Got E4 in about 18 months, but wasn't offered chance to go E5 until almost 4 years in, but on the condition I would be reenlisting. They basically said I had to stay a minimum of 18 months and my time remaining was less than that. Battalion CSM was pretty upset I turned it down. So I served 5 years and was only an E4. Looks like Vance went in the marines as an E1 and left at 4 years as an E3, Sounds like he wasn't NCO material.
 
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