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Zorba

Lifer
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I would say that high housing costs are 100% a policy choice but high child care costs are a Baumol's cost disease problem IMO. We simply haven't found a way to make child care much more efficient and so as our society becomes richer it will become comparatively more expensive.
Policy choices are definitely the biggest problem with housing, but I do think there would be labor shortages if/when we go try to fix it.
 

zinfamous

No Lifer
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It was a very nice way to say why are you asking me this stupid fucking question.
seriously, I would have lost my shit. Not because of personal offense, but the insinuation of the question is that the random racist statement from a lying conman sack of foot puss is somehow worthy of any kind of actual discussion, in some sort of perverted reality that "fair and balanced" is actually a legitimate paradigm when it comes to information, or media.

To fucking lend credence to some inarguable nonsense by virtue of "well, some major party elected him a candidate!" as if that is now a high cultural mark in our country. I mean, ffs. Do these asshats have any self respect? From the time they thought journalism was noble cause (it really is), to whatthefuckever they became now, (young corporate sockpuppets mewing for the teets of their stock options from new CNN owner, which are only accessed after their first 5 year "salary" gets funneled into "pay off your egregious student debt" benefit package, therefore: nonsense like this to make papa proud up in the booth)...how exactly did that switch happen?

There is a lot broken in our country today, but honestly and I know this is obvious for a while now, I'm pretty much on board with our information streams just getting clouded in their very specific, self-interested ways. It's fucking fucked.
 
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zinfamous

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She should shun any advances for interviews from persons who are going to be stupid or mining for gotchas. That attitude should serve Democrats well.

The double-standard machine will say they're divisive or combative or mean or not willing to take "hard questions"
Yeah, because that's a serious question. GTFO. I wish Harris could have said something like "I'm happy to answer a real question", but we live in double-standard land...

Agree with both of you. And I think Fenix has the right approach here, with, you just have to start punching back in very concise ways. Her skill is the short, tactile, prosecutor's needle. You put her one one one, and she'll hit you with a question that you can not answer, knowing that she already knows your answer, lol.

That's her job. And it's really disarming when people face her in such situations.



Yeah, shit.

THIS is why they hate her.
 
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zinfamous

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And then Biden stabilized the oil market with purchases/sells from the strategic oil reserve. Preventing SA and Russia from crashing American producers. Of course he gets no credit for that.

It's weird how, ever since the market economy started dominating the world's economies (basically post-WWI; but also you have those "freak" local scares that are also troubling--The Dutch Tulip thing which isn't actually as insane was we might think, and, also the uh...Dutch Nutmeg market-cornering-genocide scheme that they once did which is actually quite insane--and certainly that first big global market run-up/post war commodity/pandemic--lol there was such a MASSIVE Pandemic that went into that crash, and that fucking decade, that was also so unbuildable and ravished....), we just get planned, repeatable and "investable" swings when the global tilt-and-turn of fascism and market-based fascism and liberal order and market-based liberal order just constantly gnaw at each other.

All you have to do, really, is just "accumulate an over-average pile of all the shit" in order to prevent the other "accumulators of very specific piles of shit" to crater the fucking globe with their single card of "ending markets with us having the most very specific piles of shit" plan.

I mean, wtf. How did this happen?
 
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zinfamous

No Lifer
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A new revelation about the 2016 Clinton campaign…

View attachment 106569

So this is like, why AI systems had been delayed basically.

That was a really serious test that some big Clinton...eh, Silicon Tech Bros invested into and probably lost shitloads in favors due to the thing failing and her losing those states, purely out of trust for robot.

damn


that's actually really fucking crazy. Think where we are now. Put all those people involved in and around Ada in that time, with where they are, today. In this election, where AI is now, what those very same people are up to, and how they made out or failed after 2016.

hmmm
hmm

..
 
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Agree with both of you. And I think Fenix has the right approach here, with, you just have to start punching back in very concise ways. Her skill is the short, tactile, prosecutor's needle. You put her one one one, and she'll hit you with a question that you can not answer, knowing that she already knows your answer, lol.

That's her job. And it's really disarming when people face her in such situations.



Yeah, shit.

THIS is why they hate her.
They’re both real good at the game. I like how they each wrestled with whom had control of the question, I like how she stayed on target and allowed awkward pauses. I like how he refused to be boxed in and would not allow her to take control.
This is an excellent tape.
I like listening to interactions like this, both are good with words, pauses, expressions. Both understand not to give ground or be afraid. Kamala stayed right on point with her question, frat boy knew he didn’t need to answer but also knew he can’t lie. This 7 minutes is a masterclass.
 

Zorba

Lifer
Oct 22, 1999
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seriously, I would have lost my shit. Not because of personal offense, but the insinuation of the question is that the random racist statement from a lying conman sack of foot puss is somehow worthy of any kind of actual discussion, in some sort of perverted reality that "fair and balanced" is actually a legitimate paradigm when it comes to information, or media.

To fucking lend credence to some inarguable nonsense by virtue of "well, some major party elected him a candidate!" as if that is now a high cultural mark in our country. I mean, ffs. Do these asshats have any self respect? From the time they thought journalism was noble cause (it really is), to whatthefuckever they became now, (young corporate sockpuppets mewing for the teets of their stock options from new CNN owner, which are only accessed after their first 5 year "salary" gets funneled into "pay off your egregious student debt" benefit package, therefore: nonsense like this to make papa proud up in the booth)...how exactly did that switch happen?

There is a lot broken in our country today, but honestly and I know this is obvious for a while now, I'm pretty much on board with our information streams just getting clouded in their very specific, self-interested ways. It's fucking fucked.
To be fair, cable news has always been trash. Not sure why she picked CNN over one of the real networks.
 

Muse

Lifer
Jul 11, 2001
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They’re both real good at the game. I like how they each wrestled with whom had control of the question, I like how she stayed on target and allowed awkward pauses. I like how he refused to be boxed in and would not allow her to take control.
This is an excellent tape.
I like listening to interactions like this, both are good with words, pauses, expressions. Both understand not to give ground or be afraid. Kamala stayed right on point with her question, frat boy knew he didn’t need to answer but also knew he can’t lie. This 7 minutes is a masterclass.
Toward the end I started to anticipate that Harris knew he'd talked to a specific person in that law firm about the Mueller Investigation and that he'd certainly recall it (maybe she had proof of that) and that he knew now and at the time that he was in that law firm, and thus had Kavanaugh dead to rights as lying under oath... but the recording ended. Drat.
 

Jaskalas

Lifer
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But Politico turned that quite appropriate answer around into an outright negative attack ad on Harris with that misleading headline ~ which is the "wtf" moment.
That makes it sound like Politico is MAGA.
Good to know.

And not just the "opps", but holding deeply racist attacks. Disgusting.
 

Jaskalas

Lifer
Jun 23, 2004
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Alright. That's seemingly normal and not worthy of the criticism I replied to for it.

But Politico turned that quite appropriate answer around into an outright negative attack ad on Harris with that misleading headline ~ which is the "wtf" moment.
Say again? Was it the tweet or the article? Is there more than one?

The tweet was shit, but probably just poorly written. Article seems okay?
 

Dave_5k

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Alright. That's seemingly normal and not worthy of the criticism I replied to for it.


Say again? Was it the tweet or the article? Is there more than one?

The tweet was shit, but probably just poorly written. Article seems okay?
Article was fine - for those that clicked through to read it.

The clickbait headline was the problem with the very misleading snapshot.
 

Muse

Lifer
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Article was fine - for those that clicked through to read it.

The clickbait headline was the problem with the very misleading snapshot.
It was the headline that was insane bullshit. Harris' reply to the question was just fine. In effect, don't see me as a black woman, see me as the president. That's vision, that's clear, it's sensible, it's what we need.

From the POLITICO article:

Trump, for his part, has struggled to define Harris as an opponent and has tried to tempt her into engaging on those terms. The first time Harris responded to the attack that she’d recently “turned Black,” she called it “the same old show, the divisiveness and the disrespect,” adding “Let me just say, the American people deserve better.” The Trump campaign has leaned on a grab bag of attacks, some of which include her race and gender, some of which do not.
 
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Muse

Lifer
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Turmp waffling on how he will vote in the FL abortion referendum is awesome! He is REALLY off the rails on that one!
He's trying to play both sides (right to lifers and pro choice advocates), essentially contradicting himself. Who in his right mind would believe him?
 
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