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Indus

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I don't wanna panic but I think this is possible given enough resources and effort:

 

Indus

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Fucking ridiculous, absolutely ridiculous. The former president has no plan and has revealed no plan and let’s remember the “Muslim Ban”.
Major point of mine is when people act like fucking idiots.

I know that but these uncommited don't.. I hope they come home but I think our strategy might need to be more than a hope and a prayer.

And Dick Cheney's endorsement is sending chills down my spine.. on one side I'm fucking disgusted.. on the other side I think Cheneys and Bushs are Texas.. maybe we can push for it.
 
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I know that but these uncommited don't.. I hope they come home but I think our strategy might need to be more than a hope and a prayer.

And Dick Cheney's endorsement is sending chills down my spine.. on one side I'm fucking disgusted.. on the other side I think Cheneys and Bushs are Texas.. maybe we can push for it.
Gotta do what you’ve got to do to win. Just think of it that way.
Choice is clear Oligarchy or Democracy.
 

manly

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Fucking ridiculous, absolutely ridiculous. The former president has no plan and has revealed no plan and let’s remember the “Muslim Ban”.
Major point of mine is when people act like fucking idiots.
Trump is staunchly pro-Israel. He's said he doesn't mind Israel continuing to wreck Gaza, but he doesn't want incessant media coverage there to expose the horrors of war. His son-in-law even publicly said Gaza's beaches would be a wonderful place to redevelop.


That's a laughable map for several reasons.
"I'm panicking like diaper man, but we can still blow them out despite losing the Rust Belt." 🤣 What a fucken buffoon.
 

cytg111

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Go and buy some cat litter!
How is he wrong? Last time we talked about popular vs electorate we landed on dems needing about a 3.5% lead nationally to pull it off. If polls are showing a 1% lead then that would be a losing number. Back to cheering for the unpolled unlikely voter I guess? (lots and lots of women in this case).
 

Indus

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How is he wrong? Last time we talked about popular vs electorate we landed on dems needing about a 3.5% lead nationally to pull it off. If polls are showing a 1% lead then that would be a losing number. Back to cheering for the unpolled unlikely voter I guess? (lots and lots of women in this case).

My conspiracy theory still stands..

Either 1 or 2 or both are accurate.

1. Americans have their heads up their asses.

2. Pollsters have their heads up their asses.
 

gothuevos

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How is he wrong? Last time we talked about popular vs electorate we landed on dems needing about a 3.5% lead nationally to pull it off. If polls are showing a 1% lead then that would be a losing number. Back to cheering for the unpolled unlikely voter I guess? (lots and lots of women in this case).

And for context, the same Pew Poll the last few cycles at this point in time:

September 2024
Trump: 49
Harris: 49

September 2020
Trump: 42
Biden: 52

September 2016
Trump: 39
Clinton: 46


I thought the post-Biden bump would at least give Harris a chance...if not to win but to at worst lose in a close race.

These are "lose easily" numbers. To be tied nationally with the GOP's built-in EC advantage is simply a disaster at this point.
 

repoman0

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it doesn’t really seem like the electoral college advantage exists this election, at least from polling. It’s a dead heat both nationally and in each of the important swing states.
 
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Indus

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These are "lose easily" numbers. To be tied nationally with the GOP's built-in EC advantage is simply a disaster at this point.

Okay Red Tsunami incoming..

Prepare ship for ludicrous speed! Fasten all seatbelts, seal all entrances and exits, close all shops in the mall, cancel the three ring circus, secure all animals in the zoo!
 
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K1052

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And for context, the same Pew Poll the last few cycles at this point in time:

September 2024
Trump: 49
Harris: 49

September 2020
Trump: 42
Biden: 52

September 2016
Trump: 39
Clinton: 46


I thought the post-Biden bump would at least give Harris a chance...if not to win but to at worst lose in a close race.

These are "lose easily" numbers. To be tied nationally with the GOP's built-in EC advantage is simply a disaster at this point.

Pew had Trump +4 over Biden in July buddy.
 

cytg111

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And for context, the same Pew Poll the last few cycles at this point in time:

September 2024
Trump: 49
Harris: 49

September 2020
Trump: 42
Biden: 52

September 2016
Trump: 39
Clinton: 46


I thought the post-Biden bump would at least give Harris a chance...if not to win but to at worst lose in a close race.

These are "lose easily" numbers. To be tied nationally with the GOP's built-in EC advantage is simply a disaster at this point.
And then there is 2022


The red wave that didnt happen. Why? Roe. As the GOP Conservatives have been uniquely efficient at keeping this top of mind of everyone you could expect this to carry 2024 too.

Keep in mind the reason team GOP was expecting a red wave 2022 was : Polling.

Didnt happen.

It just means you're flying blind at this point.

edit : It's probably a psych game at this point right, even if one side is ahead, you dont want your base to feel comfortable, you want them on the edge of the seat so that they'll prioritize voting on the day rather than going to your grandpa's 80th birthday.
 
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manly

Lifer
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it doesn’t really seem like the electoral college advantage exists this election, at least from polling. It’s a dead heat both nationally and in each of the important swing states.
Close/Not exactly. The 7 swing states are indeed all a virtual tie, and obviously where the election will be decided. The few people predicting a blue wave election are deluding themselves.

Harris' national lead is narrow but it's somewhere between 1 and 3 points. I guarantee you Harris will win the "national PV" by at least 2 points, because voters will "run up the score" in CA and NY.

The well known problem is that if Harris wins by 2% overall, she mostly loses the election. If she wins by 3.5%+, then depending on how the battlegrounds shake out, she probably wins the EC.

Hopefully DJT comes across as a slobbering idiot tomorrow, because I kinda doubt there will be another debate.
 
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Indus

Lifer
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Close/Not exactly. The 7 swing states are indeed all a virtual tie, and obviously where the election will be decided. The few people predicting a blue wave election are deluding themselves.

Harris' national lead is narrow but it's somewhere between 1 and 3 points. I guarantee you Harris will win the "national PV" by at least 2 points, because voters will "run up the score" in CA and NY.

Kinda incredible that a dictatorship is within 1 and 3 points.
 

K1052

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If we run the tape back here a bit making the switch was not sold as a promise of an easy victory in the Presidential election. It was a risk to make the race competitive once again which she has so far accomplished and to increase Dem eagerness to vote which will flow down ballot preventing the loss of winnable seats.
 
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