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gothuevos

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If we run the tape back here a bit making the switch was not sold as a promise of an easy victory in the Presidential election. It was a risk to make the race competitive once again which she has so far accomplished and to increase Dem eagerness to vote which will flow down ballot preventing the loss of winnable seats.

This is a reasonable take and probably gives Democrats a decent chance at still flipping the House. Which was my original prediction, GOP takes presidency and senate, Dems take House. Pivoting to Harris probably at least prevented them from controlling all three.
 

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Mike Collins claims immigrants are hunting and eating ducks in the city park.


What?! ... No babies?

I guess they could be dumping dead bears in the park instead.

Is he trying to take the attention off kids being blown away dead in his district?

Curious echo of the tabloid stories of Polish migrants here killing and eating swans.

Tangentially, I'm curious as to who bothers to put 'em in a tweet. I mean, you might say 'em, but surely when typing you'd type them, in full. It's more effort to type the apostrophe than it is to type the full word. Is he referencing some quotation or something?
 

Indus

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Don't underestimate the turnout of women, african-americans, and younger voters who are not in the Gaza or nothing else fringe.

She's only getting 70-72% of African Americans (covered today extensively in Majority Report). Trump is getting a healthy 20% or more of them.

And women are being offset by young men who're pissed off about migrants and want the "blood violence and concentration camps" promised by Trump.

That's why it's so close.
 

gothuevos

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Oof

"The New York Times-Siena College poll released over the weekend found Trump with a 1-point lead nationally. That’s within the margin of error, but it’s a bad poll for Democrats and confirms several weeks worth of erosion for Harris. Trump has a 46 percent approval rating in the poll, which is higher than he had for either of his past two presidential bids. The final New York Times-Siena College poll of 2020 found Biden leading Trump by 9 points nationally. Biden ended up winning the popular vote by about 4.5 points, but he only won the Electoral College by several thousands of votes in a handful of states.

Nearly one-third of voters said they need to know more about Harris. Nearly half of voters said Harris is too liberal, while Trump was seen as more of a centrist. More than half of voters said Harris is partly responsible for the border. More than half of voters said Harris is too “risky” a choice and represents “more of the same.”

When you're painted as too extreme compared to "centrist Trump," it's probably over for you.

 

Muse

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the uncommitted remain firmly uncommitted!

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Trump is all about nicknames. He makes up his themes out of thin air according to what might stick in fly paper brains, searches his meagre mind for a one word label, settles on it, then takes his opportunities to send it into media-land. It's his m.o.

Dogs piss everywhere

Trump leaves a dump
 
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K1052

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Then you're really not going to like the gains Trump has made with Latino voters.

I keep hearing about blexit but it has not appeared in any election. If Trump is going to do better with AAs than any R has in decades there is no hard evidence to support that his 3rd time out.
 

NWRMidnight

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And for context, the same Pew Poll the last few cycles at this point in time:

September 2024
Trump: 49
Harris: 49

September 2020
Trump: 42
Biden: 52

September 2016
Trump: 39
Clinton: 46


I thought the post-Biden bump would at least give Harris a chance...if not to win but to at worst lose in a close race.

These are "lose easily" numbers. To be tied nationally with the GOP's built-in EC advantage is simply a disaster at this point.
How about you go look at the 2008 election. Depending on where you get your polling information, those polls, had Obama ahead of McCain, McCain ahead of Obaman, or tied.. What where the results of that election?
 

MrSquished

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Let's see what happens tomorrow, but if it goes well enough for Harris, barring any any crazy October surprise, I don't think the polls are taking into account voter turnout for the Democrats. I'm talking about people that are going to show up and vote. I think the polls are missing that.

What comes into play is how many people are getting disenfranchised by the Republicans
 

Indus

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Let's see what happens tomorrow, but if it goes well enough for Harris, barring any any crazy October surprise, I don't think the polls are taking into account voter turnout for the Democrats. I'm talking about people that are going to show up and vote. I think the polls are missing that.

What comes into play is how many people are getting disenfranchised by the Republicans

It could also be that New York, Chicago, California.. basically everywhere they dumped migrants at.. are a bit more close than they generally are.. and that could be skewing the polls towards Trump.
 
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esquared

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Yep, the orange menace, shady vance and raphael cruz are saying immigrants are eating your pets.

CNN: Trump campaign and JD Vance promote false rumors about Haitian immigrants eating pets.


The repubs are such reprehensible, despicable people that I cannot contain my disgust for them as a group.
To the ones that don't speak out against this wanna-be mobster/dictator, you're just as guilty.
Wrong is fucking wrong and you know it

They're just like that asshole father who gave his 13-14 year old son an AR15 for Christmas so he could shoot up the school. Lock him up too and throw away the key.
 
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RalphTheCow

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It really struck me when I hear pundits saying Trump is basically an entertainer. Sort of like letting an old b movie actor become president. What could go wrong?
 
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That's an example of the audience. 'Too Conservative' should be well above 70%.
It really struck me when I hear pundits saying Trump is basically an entertainer. Sort of like letting an old b movie actor become president. What could go wrong?
I keep using the term Carnival Barker. He musters the crowd into the tents with the things that get them curious without letting them find out the Bearded Lady is really just a guy in a dress. Even when they see for themselves, they still believe it's a lady with a beard because that's the way the show was sold and that's what they paid to see.
 
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