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HomerJS

Lifer
Feb 6, 2002
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Harris should visit Springfield.

They still won't vote for here there but it would be the Presidential thing to do.
Great idea. Also find the woman who spread the initial rumor and get her to retract it. She says she regrets all the hate spread about her post but has not completely renounced it.
 
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Meghan54

Lifer
Oct 18, 2009
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Taylor's a decade ahead of the Trump attacks:


That vid of Swift is the first time I’ve knowingly listened to a song of hers, much less a music video. (My pop influences these days are more like Disturbed and Royal Blood.)

First, it was “cute,” second…she’s kinda skinny.

Just another ear worm.
 
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Indus

Lifer
May 11, 2002
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That vid of Swift is the first time I’ve knowingly listened to a song of hers, much less a music video. (My pop influences these days are more like Disturbed and Royal Blood.)

First, it was “cute,” second…she’s kinda skinny.

Just another ear worm.

My handle here Indus is actually short for "Industrial Music Lover": Nine Inch Nails, Skinny Puppy, Ministry, KMFDM, Front242, Nitzer Ebb, Funker Vogt, Wumpscut, Killing Joke etc.

But while I was overseas.. I'd often hear Lady Gaga, Beyonce, Taylor Swift, Jon Bonjovi and Katy Perry on full blast.. so I got familiar with their songs. The haters gonna hate hate hate sorta stuck with me as in don't be afraid to be who you are.

However the song I most listen to when I'm down/ depressed is Smothered Hope by Skinny Puppy ! Better than a visit to a shrink!

 
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gothuevos

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Great idea. Also find the woman who spread the initial rumor and get her to retract it. She says she regrets all the hate spread about her post but has not completely renounced it.

I doubt this person ever wants to be in the spotlight again, but if your scenario ever happened, I think it would be more powerful for Harris and other community leaders to extend an olive branch to this individual as a way for the town to try to turn the page and move on.

Would provide a blinding stark contrast to Trump and his surrogates.
 

sdifox

No Lifer
Sep 30, 2005
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That vid of Swift is the first time I’ve knowingly listened to a song of hers, much less a music video. (My pop influences these days are more like Disturbed and Royal Blood.)

First, it was “cute,” second…she’s kinda skinny.

Just another ear worm.
You are looking at a video from a decade ago...
 

K1052

Elite Member
Aug 21, 2003
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Selzer poll probably overstating Trump weakness in IA, still not what they want to be seeing though.

Do I believe based on better state polling that Harris is up 3-4 points nationally? Yeah I think so.
 

Dave_5k

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May 23, 2017
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Selzer poll probably overstating Trump weakness in IA, still not what they want to be seeing though.

Do I believe based on better state polling that Harris is up 3-4 points nationally? Yeah I think so.
Possibly yes. Could she lose the election with a final +4 in the actual popular vote? Absolutely. Although if at +4, probably 60-65% chance of winning the election.
 

K1052

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Aug 21, 2003
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Possibly yes. Could she lose the election with a final +4 in the actual popular vote? Absolutely. Although if at +4, probably 60-65% chance of winning the election.

A lot depends on the EC efficiency of her margin which is not knowable yet.
 

nickqt

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Jan 15, 2015
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The popular vote is 100% irrelevant to who wins the Electoral College. Anyone pointing at a popular vote poll or total count isn't playing the correct game.

Might as well tally yard signs you see out of the left hand side of your car while driving to work on Thursdays.
 
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Indus

Lifer
May 11, 2002
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Possibly yes. Could she lose the election with a final +4 in the actual popular vote? Absolutely. Although if at +4, probably 60-65% chance of winning the election.

Hillary had a 70% chance of winning the election on the final day.. look how that turned out.

But I don't think people hate her as much as Hillary.
 

HomerJS

Lifer
Feb 6, 2002
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I doubt this person ever wants to be in the spotlight again, but if your scenario ever happened, I think it would be more powerful for Harris and other community leaders to extend an olive branch to this individual as a way for the town to try to turn the page and move on.

Would provide a blinding stark contrast to Trump and his surrogates.
That's the exact reason Harris should visit Springfield. Get local officials, good meaning local residents original and migrants. Promote peace in the community and denounce the lies and hate promoted by Trump.
 

Stokely

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The popular vote is 100% irrelevant to who wins the Electoral College. Anyone pointing at a popular vote poll or total count isn't playing the correct game.

Might as well tally yard signs you see out of the left hand side of your car while driving to work on Thursdays.

Speaking of yard signs...

I've said before that I'm in a county that went barely for Biden in 2020. For Florida that's like the enlightened ancient mythical city of Xanadu. It's a mix of suburbs and rural (not farms but people out in the sticks). In 2020 I'm not sure I ever saw a single Biden sign; saw what seemed like a thousand Trump ones. Tons of Trump bumper stickers, sometimes many on one car.

This year so far, haven't seen many signs but I did see a Harris/Walz one on the rural road that hides between two burbs here. Talk about surprising.

My band just canceled a gig at one joint out in a small town in the sticks. Main reason was that its one of those deals where there's two clubs in town, and if you play at one you aren't supposed to play at the other (it's stupid as hell, but its a thing). We play at the other one so that was that. We also saw in pics when a friend's band played there that they have Trump banners and shit up on the back wall behind the band. Fuck to the no on that. They couldn't pay me enough to stand up there in front of that. I also would walk out and not spend a dime there as a patron.
 
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RalphTheCow

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Every time I read about how Laura Loomer was probably brought in by Lewandowski I am thrilled that Trump is ignoring Susie Wiles and LaCivita because they are actually competent and might actually give him a chance to win in the rare event that he took their advice. Priceless.
 
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