You do realize that N. Korea's first nuclear technology was sold by ABB (Switzerland) under the watch of Donald Rumsfeld, don't you?
Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Originally posted by: miketheidiot
Originally posted by: zendari
According to the Clintonites perjury isn't much of a crime.
treason > perjury
Selling missile technology to China... Giving nukes to N Korea...
Me thinks the Clintonistas didn't think much of treason either.
Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Originally posted by: miketheidiot
Originally posted by: zendari
According to the Clintonites perjury isn't much of a crime.
treason > perjury
Selling missile technology to China... Giving nukes to N Korea...
Me thinks the Clintonistas didn't think much of treason either.
You do realize that N. Korea's first nuclear technology was sold by ABB (Switzerland) under the watch of Donald Rumsfeld, don't you?
Originally posted by: Phokus
Originally posted by: Thump553
IF true, this should be an enormous scandal dwarfing Watergate. Watergate was, at its core, a simple break and entry job for political purposes, accompanied by a coverup at the highest levels of government. This situation involves a despicable act of treason (revealing the names of America's spys) purely for political gain, done by the President's chief planner.
Treason is a capital offense and Bush has never shown the least bit reluctance to fry prisoners as the governor of Texas. Think he'll put his own Rasputin in the chair?
Knowing that slimeball bush, he probably has his 'presidential pardon' template all set up in microsoft word for such an occassion.
Originally posted by: zendari
According to the Clintonites perjury isn't much of a crime.
History shows that the CIA has not always been the good guys and always doing their best to do the right and honorable thing for our country, but if we start with that most ultra "conservative" assumption, anyone who willingly and intentionally blows the cover of a top CIA covert operative is disclosing classified information of vital concern to the security and safety of the nation and should be tried for treason.Originally posted by: shurato
edit: Isn't this sort of thing considered treason and once grounds for capital punishment?
Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
This will be huge. The Republicans are the party of morality...
LMFAO... So what does that make the Democrat party?
God help us all.
Originally posted by: BBond
Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Originally posted by: miketheidiot
Originally posted by: zendari
According to the Clintonites perjury isn't much of a crime.
treason > perjury
Selling missile technology to China... Giving nukes to N Korea...
Me thinks the Clintonistas didn't think much of treason either.
You do realize that N. Korea's first nuclear technology was sold by ABB (Switzerland) under the watch of Donald Rumsfeld, don't you?
The Clinton/China story was debunked too. It doesn't matter. They all just want a stain on their dress that they can brag about.
But KKKarl will wind up with more than just a stain when the executioner says, "FIRE!"
MSNBC Analyst Says 2nd Source Confirms Karl Rove as Plame Leaker
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Threads like this one demonstrate precisely how the loonie left is marginalizing itself and why the commom-sense left is distancing itself from them.
Keep up the kindergarten commentary, young-uns.
I revealed in yesterday's taping of the McLaughlin Group that Time magazine's emails will reveal that Karl Rove was Matt Cooper's source. I have known this for months but didn't want to say it at a time that would risk me getting dragged into the grand jury.
McLaughlin is seen in some markets on Friday night, so some websites have picked it up, including Drudge, but I don't expect it to have much impact because McLaughlin is not considered a news show and it will be pre-empted in the big markets on Sunday because of tennis.
Since I revealed the big scoop, I have had it reconfirmed by yet another highly authoritative source. Too many people know this. It should break wide open this week. I know Newsweek is working on an 'It's Rove!' story and will probably break it tomorrow.
Where do my comments give absolution to Rove?Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Threads like this one demonstrate precisely how the loonie left is marginalizing itself and why the commom-sense left is distancing itself from them.
Keep up the kindergarten commentary, young-uns.
So, I guess what he did is a-ok with you, I take it? Figures.
Originally posted by: Fox5
Wait, so what did this guy do?
Can someone explain the whole story?
"Even though I'm a tranquil guy now at this stage of my life, I have nothing but contempt and anger for those who betray the trust by exposing the name of our sources. They are, in my view, the most insidious of traitors."
-- George Herbert Walker Bush, 1999
Replies like this demonstrate precisely how loonie some self-deluded radical neocons can is, marginalizing themselves from reality, regardless of the facts.Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Threads like this one demonstrate precisely how the loonie left is marginalizing itself and why the commom-sense left is distancing itself from them.
Mission to Niger
Robert Novak
July 14, 2003
WASHINGTON -- The CIA's decision to send retired diplomat Joseph C. Wilson to Africa in February 2002 to investigate possible Iraqi purchases of uranium was made routinely at a low level without Director George Tenet's knowledge. Remarkably, this produced a political firestorm that has not yet subsided.
Wilson's report that an Iraqi purchase of uranium yellowcake from Niger was highly unlikely was regarded by the CIA as less than definitive, and it is doubtful Tenet ever saw it. Certainly, President Bush did not, prior to his 2003 State of the Union address, when he attributed reports of attempted uranium purchases to the British government. That the British relied on forged documents made Wilson's mission, nearly a year earlier, the basis of furious Democratic accusations of burying intelligence though the report was forgotten by the time the president spoke.
Reluctance at the White House to admit a mistake has led Democrats ever closer to saying the president lied the country into war. Even after a belated admission of error last Monday, finger-pointing between Bush administration agencies continued. Messages between Washington and the presidential entourage traveling in Africa hashed over the mission to Niger.
Wilson's mission was created after an early 2002 report by the Italian intelligence service about attempted uranium purchases from Niger, derived from forged documents prepared by what the CIA calls a "con man." This misinformation, peddled by Italian journalists, spread through the U.S. government. The White House, State Department and Pentagon, and not just Vice President Dick Cheney, asked the CIA to look into it.
That's where Joe Wilson came in. His first public notice had come in 1991 after 15 years as a Foreign Service officer when, as U.S. charge in Baghdad, he risked his life to shelter in the embassy some 800 Americans from Saddam Hussein's wrath. My partner Rowland Evans reported from the Iraqi capital in our column that Wilson showed "the stuff of heroism." President George H.W. Bush the next year named him ambassador to Gabon, and President Bill Clinton put him in charge of African affairs at the National Security Council until his retirement in 1998.
Wilson never worked for the CIA, but his wife, Valerie Plame, is an Agency operative on weapons of mass destruction. Two senior administration officials told me Wilson's wife suggested sending him to Niger to investigate the Italian report. The CIA says its counter-proliferation officials selected Wilson and asked his wife to contact him. "I will not answer any question about my wife," Wilson told me.
After eight days in the Niger capital of Niamey (where he once served), Wilson made an oral report in Langley that an Iraqi uranium purchase was "highly unlikely," though he also mentioned in passing that a 1988 Iraqi delegation tried to establish commercial contacts. CIA officials did not regard Wilson's intelligence as definitive, being based primarily on what the Niger officials told him and probably would have claimed under any circumstances. The CIA report of Wilson's briefing remains classified.
All this was forgotten until reporter Walter Pincus revealed in the Washington Post June 12 that an unnamed retired diplomat had given the CIA a negative report. Not until Wilson went public on July 6, however, did his finding ignite the firestorm.
During the run-up to the invasion of Iraq, Wilson had taken a measured public position -- viewing weapons of mass destruction as a danger but considering military action as a last resort. He has seemed much more critical of the administration since revealing his role in Niger. In the Washington Post July 6, he talked about the Bush team "misrepresenting the facts," asking: "What else are they lying about?"
After the White House admitted error, Wilson declined all television and radio interviews. "The story was never me," he told me, "it was always the statement in (Bush's) speech." The story, actually, is whether the administration deliberately ignored Wilson's advice, and that requires scrutinizing the CIA summary of what their envoy reported. The Agency never before has declassified that kind of information, but the White House would like it to do just that now -- in its and in the public's interest.
If you don't have facts to disprove any of the above, and the best you can come up with is petty name calling, you don't know your ass from a hole in the ground, and you should STFU until you have something to contribute to the planet better than TasetslikeChickensh8. :|Keep up the kindergarten commentary, young-uns.
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Where do my comments give absolution to Rove?Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Threads like this one demonstrate precisely how the loonie left is marginalizing itself and why the commom-sense left is distancing itself from them.
Keep up the kindergarten commentary, young-uns.
So, I guess what he did is a-ok with you, I take it? Figures.
If you want to jump of the deep end with the rest of the fools and trolls prematurely commenting on this story, as if Scary Larry O'Donnell is the final factual word, help yourself.
What next? You going to join Ritter in insisting we're going to bomb Iran and be at war by June 30?
::snicker::
Originally posted by: Tab
When I see this stuff on CNN and MSNBC then we may have a case....
Until then I doubt anything will happen...
Do you not understand about people making all this idiotic commentary before the facts are in, and making comments on the level of 12 year olds?Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Where do my comments give absolution to Rove?Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Threads like this one demonstrate precisely how the loonie left is marginalizing itself and why the commom-sense left is distancing itself from them.
Keep up the kindergarten commentary, young-uns.
So, I guess what he did is a-ok with you, I take it? Figures.
If you want to jump of the deep end with the rest of the fools and trolls prematurely commenting on this story, as if Scary Larry O'Donnell is the final factual word, help yourself.
What next? You going to join Ritter in insisting we're going to bomb Iran and be at war by June 30?
::snicker::
So if you believe what Rove did to be true, then how can this be a product of the "loonie left"?
So when it comes out that Rove WAS the "outer", are you going to come on these boards and say that you were wrong? Or are you going to say that the bitch deserved it?
I'm thinking the latter, for you don't give a crap about treason, pergury or the like because you sir, are a hack of the very worst kind.
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Do you not understand about people making all this idiotic commentary before the facts are in, and making comments on the level of 12 year olds?Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Where do my comments give absolution to Rove?Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Threads like this one demonstrate precisely how the loonie left is marginalizing itself and why the commom-sense left is distancing itself from them.
Keep up the kindergarten commentary, young-uns.
So, I guess what he did is a-ok with you, I take it? Figures.
If you want to jump of the deep end with the rest of the fools and trolls prematurely commenting on this story, as if Scary Larry O'Donnell is the final factual word, help yourself.
What next? You going to join Ritter in insisting we're going to bomb Iran and be at war by June 30?
::snicker::
So if you believe what Rove did to be true, then how can this be a product of the "loonie left"?
So when it comes out that Rove WAS the "outer", are you going to come on these boards and say that you were wrong? Or are you going to say that the bitch deserved it?
I'm thinking the latter, for you don't give a crap about treason, pergury or the like because you sir, are a hack of the very worst kind.
Whether or not Rove is guilty is not the point here. Maybe he is, maybe he isn't. We will find out soon enough. The point is that we don't know for sure yet but there are those already jumping the gun and making the snide comments. And I'm sure if it turns out that Rove isn't the one you won't see a single one of those jokes in here making moronic commentary revisting this thread to apologize or admit they were wrong, just like in the Ritter thread.
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Do you not understand about people making all this idiotic commentary before the facts are in, and making comments on the level of 12 year olds?Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Where do my comments give absolution to Rove?Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Threads like this one demonstrate precisely how the loonie left is marginalizing itself and why the commom-sense left is distancing itself from them.
Keep up the kindergarten commentary, young-uns.
So, I guess what he did is a-ok with you, I take it? Figures.
If you want to jump of the deep end with the rest of the fools and trolls prematurely commenting on this story, as if Scary Larry O'Donnell is the final factual word, help yourself.
What next? You going to join Ritter in insisting we're going to bomb Iran and be at war by June 30?
::snicker::
So if you believe what Rove did to be true, then how can this be a product of the "loonie left"?
So when it comes out that Rove WAS the "outer", are you going to come on these boards and say that you were wrong? Or are you going to say that the bitch deserved it?
I'm thinking the latter, for you don't give a crap about treason, pergury or the like because you sir, are a hack of the very worst kind.
Whether or not Rove is guilty is not the point here. Maybe he is, maybe he isn't. We will find out soon enough. The point is that we don't know for sure yet but there are those already jumping the gun and making the snide comments. And I'm sure if it turns out that Rove isn't the one you won't see a single one of those jokes in here making moronic commentary revisting this thread to apologize or admit they were wrong, just like in the Ritter thread.
NO! When it comes to even the possiblitiy of treason and breaches of national security, especially by someone in the administration, yesterday is not soon enough. The damage is real, it's already done, and it's damned serious. :|Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Whether or not Rove is guilty is not the point here. Maybe he is, maybe he isn't. We will find out soon enough.
Exactly what treasonous act would that be? Please provide proof of actual treason, or STFU!And as far as the caring about treason comment, did you make the call to indict kerry for his treasonous act? Well gee, I guess you just don't give a crap, and are a hack of the very worst kind, making apologies for his actions.
Until you can legitimize any of the vapid crap you post, you should start by pointing that finger at yourself. Careful -- It might go off, and you'd let all the hot air out of that empty skull. :shocked:Gee, isn't pointing fingers and making assinine claims fun? :roll:
Originally posted by: Thump553
Treason is a capital offense and Bush has never shown the least bit reluctance to fry prisoners as the governor of Texas. Think he'll put his own Rasputin in the chair?
Originally posted by: konichiwa
If it's true, he should be hanged. Of course it is true, but he won't be hanged...too bad! Would be a nice spectacle...
Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
Originally posted by: Tab
When I see this stuff on CNN and MSNBC then we may have a case....
Until then I doubt anything will happen...
Why? Do they determine what a case is or not? But like you, I don't think much will come of it.