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Viper1j

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I love the smell of karma in the morning!

https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/14/us/colorado-store-closing-nike-boycott/index.html

Colorado store that boycotted Nike after Colin Kaepernick ad will close

In September, Stephen Martin saw a Nike ad featuring former San Francisco 49ers quarterback Colin Kaepernick.
The ad said: "Believe in something. Even if it means sacrificing everything."

The words "sacrificing everything" stood out to Martin. And he decided he needed to take a stand against Nike.

He sold off the Nike inventory in his Colorado sports apparel and memorabilia store, Prime Time Sports, and made national news as the store owner boycotting the biggest name in sports merchandise. Martin knew the Nike boycott would hurt.

"Being a sports store without Nike is like being a gas station without gas," he said.

This week, Martin announced that Prime Time Sports will close in the coming days. "This was never about property to me, this was about principle," Martin said Wednesday night while he was in his store, preparing to shut it down. Martin said the boycott was about principle over profit and even though the lost revenue played a role in his decision to close the store he was absolutely glad he did it.

"You don't trample over the men who have given Colin Kaepernick and me the right to free speech," he said.

The former NFL quarterback became a polarizing figure after he began kneeling during the National Anthem during the 2016 season to raise awareness about police brutality against African-Americans and other racial injustices. Dozens of other players joined him and he has become a symbol of the dividing lines over race in America. Some called kneeling during the anthem unpatriotic and disrespectful. Kaepernick has not played in the NFL since the 2016 season. Nike's decision to use Kaepernick to promote the 30th anniversary of its "Just Do It" advertising campaign outraged some sports fans, including Martin.

In 20 years in business, Martin said he thought of himself as a guy who sold jerseys, not as an activist. He had never boycotted anything before, though in 2016 he canceled an autograph appearance by Brandon Marshall after the Denver Broncos player took a knee during the National Anthem before a game.

This week, with past due rent bills portending a court fight he decided to tell his nine employees it was time to call it a career. Everything in the store is 40% off. Other stores in the mall, including a Sears, are closing. Mall traffic is down.

Martin told CNN affiliate KOAA that his sales had also been affected by people buying more items at online retailers. His sales were down 15% in the past three years. The store will be open until everything is gone, he told KOAA. "I didn't give in to big Nike and big dollars. I didn't give in. I did it my way," he told the Colorado Springs station.
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Probably plans to apply for food stamps.
 

IronWing

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Mr. Martin stood by his convictions. Too bad the article never explained what those convictions were.
 

obidamnkenobi

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Mr. Martin stood by his convictions. Too bad the article never explained what those convictions were.

Lol. I was reading to see what that was. Exactly what was his problem..?

And WTF does he mean by this? Who's being trampled? Which men; George Washington?
"You don't trample over the men who have given Colin Kaepernick and me the right to free speech," he said.
 

rstrohkirch

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You don't need more than that one sentence to understand his opinion. He felt what those players did was disrespectful to the sacrifices people made to his country through military ventures.

I am curious as to why it took an ad from Nike with specific phrasing for him to seriously contemplate his thoughts on the event(s) that occurred awhile before that.
 

MavericK96

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You don't need more than that one sentence to understand his opinion. He felt what those players did was disrespectful to the sacrifices people made to his country through military ventures.

It's a shame he didn't realize that the freedom to do what those players did is exactly why those soldiers sacrificed.
 

obidamnkenobi

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You don't need more than that one sentence to understand his opinion. He felt what those players did was disrespectful to the sacrifices people made to his country through military ventures.

Still don't see why. And even so he's doing it to make a point about innocent people being killed, it'd think that's more important that respect..

And even more; nobody currently in the military is "defending out right to free speech". Bombing goat herders in the ME from drones isn't defending us from any real threat. Probably the last group who did military service that actually did something noble, and are worthy of respect was WWII. Those veterans could have a right to demand an apology, if they're offended somehow..
 

ivwshane

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Another self inflicted wound by those standing up for the real victims.


Did anyone else catch that his business was dwindling because of e-commerce? Sounds like a last ditch effort to me.
 
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rstrohkirch

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It's a shame he didn't realize that the freedom to do what those players did is exactly why those soldiers sacrificed.
Most military people I know don't agree with that. You cross a line when you disrespect the country in their eyes. Though I don't know any "lite" military members personally. The ones I'm referencing lead a very military centric life for many years.

Still don't see why. And even so he's doing it to make a point about innocent people being killed, it'd think that's more important that respect..

And even more; nobody currently in the military is "defending out right to free speech". Bombing goat herders in the ME from drones isn't defending us from any real threat. Probably the last group who did military service that actually did something noble, and are worthy of respect was WWII. Those veterans could have a right to demand an apology, if they're offended somehow..

You can easily tell what his opinion is but you aren't going to know why he has those values.


Another seld inflicted wound by those standing up for the real victims.


Did anyone else catch that his business was dwindling because of e-commerce? Sounds like a last ditch effort to me.

I'm sure it would eventually happen. He did state last year that the sale of Nike products represented 40-50% of his total sales.
 

obidamnkenobi

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Most military people I know don't agree with that. You cross a line when you disrespect the country in their eyes.

So I know you're not them, but what does this mean? Criticizing, or even just pointing out, when the country does something awful (which for the US is quite a lot) is "disrespecting" it? Is it the criticism, or the method? This would be ok if he did it any other way, or shall we not point out when the US state murders innocents? I seem to remember not very positive response to the 'collateral murder' video, so that indicates it's not just the method that's the problem..
 

Vic

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Someday, someone is going to have to explain to me how and why kneeling quietly during the National Anthem is disrespectful to veterans.
 

nakedfrog

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Most military people I know don't agree with that. You cross a line when you disrespect the country in their eyes. Though I don't know any "lite" military members personally. The ones I'm referencing lead a very military centric life for many years.
Well, I know military people that do agree with it (I only served one term, guess that makes me "lite"?)
 

zinfamous

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This guy will go down as a patriotic martyr for the derposphere. I'm sure his 9 employees are just proud to be victims of his cause.

I wonder how much he is going to pull in through Go Fund Me now?
 

rstrohkirch

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So I know you're not them, but what does this mean? Criticizing, or even just pointing out, when the country does something awful (which for the US is quite a lot) is "disrespecting" it? Is it the criticism, or the method? This would be ok if he did it any other way, or shall we not point out when the US state murders innocents? I seem to remember not very positive response to the 'collateral murder' video, so that indicates it's not just the method that's the problem..

Things that apply in a general sense like the national anthem or the US flag and their opinions on how those things should be treated. I would rather not have debates with the people I'm referring to and the subject matter your referencing. I don't see that leading to a very positive evening with those individuals.

Well, I know military people that do agree with it (I only served one term, guess that makes me "lite"?)

The people I'm referring to are long term or lifers, 15 to 25 years. I'm sure their age has an influence on their opinion as well. E-9 or bust apparently.
 

JSt0rm

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"You don't trample over the men who have given Colin Kaepernick and me the right to free speech," he said.

how dare the black man use his free speech are troops provided for him via death o7 - a chud
 

Viper1j

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Still don't see why. And even so he's doing it to make a point about innocent people being killed, it'd think that's more important that respect..

And even more; nobody currently in the military is "defending out right to free speech". Bombing goat herders in the ME from drones isn't defending us from any real threat. Probably the last group who did military service that actually did something noble, and are worthy of respect was WWII. Those veterans could have a right to demand an apology, if they're offended somehow..

I'm going to go with the Korean War for 600 Alex.
 

Meghan54

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What about Marine Todd and his noble sacrifice? View attachment 3313


Didn't anyone bother to mention to Marine Todd that you were supposed to take off the sneaks before setting them on fire? Talk about jarhead............


And I did 7+ years in the Army during Vietnam, so I hope that gives me a little latitude to jest at Todd's stupidity. My father served in WWII as did my grandfather. (Father was navy in the Pacific; grandfather was called back to service for WWII---he'd served in WWI---and put in charge of the railroad logistics in Europe in WWII. GF was a VP at C&O railroad, VP for logistics at the time.)
 
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