India claims to be the biggest democracy in the world. Isn't the meaning of democracy the rule of the people? Shouldn't a referendum decide the fate of Kashmir's people.
Even on legal terms, India has no right to rule Kashmir.
There is no poit to this thread. Most people here are arrogant bigots.
That's what Pakistan is proposing to do.
That's why actors and even MPs don't get housing and are discriminated against. : http://news.outlookindia.com/item.aspx?663649
India is not doing much better than Pakistan in its rural areas. This is not an India vs Pakistan thread so don't make it one.
i am only making an assumption here, but considering the lack of resources Pakistan has currently (coping with the flood, war on the Western Front) - let alone one of the most corrupt presidents ever, they are not instigators of (at least) this current demonstrations/protests.
Seems to me the people of Kashmir are standing up for their rights. And they're getting pumelled. And who'd think it, its a democratic, secular nation involved in shooting, raping, kidnap of Kashmiri people.
Kashmir, I believe is the greatest rock song of all time.
Thats one very isolated incident, the society did not want him there coz of his ties with Dawood, their entire family including uncle mahesh are very notorious and ppl want to stay away from them. On the other side we had a Muslim president who everyone loved and was unanimously elected, even BJP supported him.
ppl like you will always divide India for you convenience, its all media and political propaganda, the fact is EVERYONE in India is in wayyyy better shape than they were 20 years ago
Kashmir is a political issue, that has been simmered to unbearable levels thanks to politicians.
Geographically/Geologically, there is next to no value to Kashmir anymore, yet both countries want to posture and pander to appease their political followers.
Ideally, both countries should follow Gandhi's footsteps and figure out an agreeable situation. But the lust for power combined with radical ignorance won't let this happen.
This is a stupid wedge issue (like gay marriage/abortion rights in the States) that have next to no relevance in reality, but the State leaders keep it stirred right up there to keep the rhetoric going.
Also, if India (and a lot of other countries) were to just start giving everyone that wants secession their wish, you would instantly have a half-dozen new countries, complete with miserable economic conditions, strife and such.
Maybe we can just send the Quebecqueers to Kashmir and they can both secede together.
Are you forgetting the Gujarat violence where the CM himself claimed to massacre muslims because of their relgion? Are you forgetting Shiv Sena? Are you forgetting the Maoist insurgency which rages throughout the country? Are you forgetting the plight of the untouchables?
I have friends and family who have been denied housing in the heart of Mumbai just because they were muslims... lets not go into jobs. What happens at the top level is no indication of what is happening with the commons.
Just because India is growing at 8% does not mean that the poorest have benefited at all.
Kashmir is different from any other nationalist movement in many ways. The fact that it might be the cause for nuclear war is enough reason to look for an immediate solution.
If you ignorant motherfuckers want to nuke each other over a piece of ground that you've fought over for more than a century, it's fine with me, as long as you keep it strictly between yourselves and don't get the rest of the world involved.
You ARE talking about our call centers....
well.. they are not exactly "people of Kashmir", the innocent peace loving pll you think they are.
Gujarat took place coz Dawood after taking over Mumbai was eying Gujarat, its docks and rich limestone mines, he had to be stopped, ppl of Gujarat could not let a terrorist living in Pakistan control Gujarat too. His Muslim army had to be stopped, police or military could not do it because it was not a real legal issue, so ppl how cared about India too matter into their own hands. The Muslim leader and his supporters killed were not innocent, they killed lots of innocent Hindus (Patels) to take over those villages and mining communities and docks.
What were your intentions when you created it? what were you looking to get out of this thread besides troll? The term "bigot" is thrown out too frequently these days, infact is one chooses to argue against it, he/she will always loose the argument, everyone is a bigot in one way or the other.
I wanted to know Western opinion about the issue. But with IQ levels like Nicks on this forum I don't think this is the place to ask.
If you ignorant motherfuckers want to nuke each other over a piece of ground that you've fought over for more than a century, it's fine with me, as long as you keep it strictly between yourselves and don't get the rest of the world involved.
As an outsider, watching India and Pakistan fight over the Kashmir region is like watching two retards fighting over a rotten apple. I don't know the background and all the nuances, but both India and Pakistan have huge issues of their own to deal before squabbling about Kashmir. Personally I think independence for Kashmir (if the people there vote for it) seems perfectly reasonable.