Yep, you see the same thing all over the world, west, east, it doesn't really matter. All leaders know that having a common enemy is the best way to unite the country behind them.
lol. So true. I guess the perpetual need for nations to have an "enemy" so that the leaders can motivate the populace to their whims comes true in this conflict as well.
Yep, you see the same thing all over the world, west, east, it doesn't really matter. All leaders know that having a common enemy is the best way to unite the country behind them.
Kashmir is different from any other nationalist movement in many ways.
The fact that it might be the cause for nuclear war is enough reason to look for an immediate solution.
Gujarat took place coz Dawood after taking over Mumbai was eying Gujarat, its docks and rich limestone mines, he had to be stopped, ppl of Gujarat could not let a terrorist living in Pakistan control Gujarat too. His Muslim army had to be stopped, police or military could not do it because it was not a real legal issue, so ppl how cared about India too matter into their own hands. The Muslim leader and his supporters killed were not innocent, they killed lots of innocent Hindus (Patels) to take over those villages and mining communities and docks.
There are lot of places and housing plans that are created for special groups of ppl and domicile, there are places where even I cannot buy a house or land, ppl unnecessary cry foul. Again if you burn fire crackers when Pakistani cricket team wins and they cry I am being discriminated then you are moron. They support Pakistan and don't even realize that they will be muhajirs there.
Go to any Indian village and you will see much better roads, bus services and electricity everywhere, even rural India has progressed. Poor ppl will always be there, you cannot take care of everyone, India's population is close to 1.2 bil. We have poors even in US but that does not downplay progress.
Maoists are Chinese funded terrorists, that take advantage of poor ppl in places where the politicians dont let real progress happen. They need poor ppl to enslave and then the Chinese govt pay them to join Mao movement. Yes, its it is even named after the great Chinese leader - Mao.
I'm sorry but that is a load of shit.
What happened in Gujarat was sickening beyond words, and the fact that it took place in the 21st century sanctioned by a State Premier is beyond appalling.
Minorities in many countries, including India are marginalized for various reasons. And for various reasons, majority of the regimes and/or populace are equally guilty.
Muslims, Hindus, Sikhs, Christians, Maoists have all been marginalized in India at various points in time. In recent history the Hindus win the outright trophy for violence based on religious zeal. In Pakistan, well, there isn't anyone else to "compete".
And people like DesiPower gladly carry the torch when it comes to painting everyone with the same brush.
Bigot!!! Sorry just wanted to beat the lefties to it. I agree thats a big stretch saying India's Hindu population leads the charge in atrocities committed in the name of religion this decade.Wrong. If anything, both are about equal but at least Indians don't commonly suicide bomb innocent civilians.
Bigot!!! Sorry just wanted to beat the lefties to it. I agree thats a big stretch saying India's Hindu population leads the charge in atrocities committed in the name of religion this decade.
Bigot!!! Sorry just wanted to beat the lefties to it. I agree thats a big stretch saying India's Hindu population leads the charge in atrocities committed in the name of religion this decade.
By recent history I'm referring to the last couple of decades.
Hundreds, if not a few thousand Muslims killed in sectarian violence in Gujarat and the site of the holy Mosque/Temple/whatever. Part of this was sanctioned by the Chief Minister, and not a single person prosecuted/charged for any of these.
Somewhere between 3K-10K Sikhs killed in 1985 alone after Sikh bodyguards killed PM Indira Gandhi. The crazy thing about this one is, not a single person again charged here. Seeing a trend?
Please show me which other groups have killed a bigger number of people in India.
By recent history I'm referring to the last couple of decades.
Hundreds, if not a few thousand Muslims killed in sectarian violence in Gujarat and the site of the holy Mosque/Temple/whatever. Part of this was sanctioned by the Chief Minister, and not a single person prosecuted/charged for any of these.
Somewhere between 3K-10K Sikhs killed in 1985 alone after Sikh bodyguards killed PM Indira Gandhi. The crazy thing about this one is, not a single person again charged here. Seeing a trend?
Please show me which other groups have killed a bigger number of people in India.
Why limit it to just within India
Hey asshole, both the incidents you mentioned, were not started by Hindus and in both incidents lots of Hindus were killed too, approximately 25% killed were Hindus. Way more if you add the total number of ppl killed in terrorist attacks
1st Hindus were killed and then they stuck back and cleansed they area they deemed necessary. You incite violence, kill members of someone's family then you want ppl to be sensible? WOW!!! great minority ass kissing keep it up bigot. Put the full fact forward and if you dont know then just STFU and disappear.
And this bitterness goes way back when Mugals and other Muslim conquerors killed Hindus in tens of thousands just coz they didn't want to convert to Islam. They burnt down villages after villages. Not to mention destroyed thousands of temples and built victory mosques over the most important ones.
Thanks for the name-calling, perhaps you want to take Ganesha's trunk out of your anus and try to actually use some rationale/logic.
The massacre in Gujarat was state sanctioned, and prior to that there were a LOT of related violence.
And about the bitterness re:Moguls, etc I wasn't debating that, all I said was in the last few decades the Hindus take the lead.
Hey asshole, both the incidents you mentioned, were not started by Hindus and in both incidents lots of Hindus were killed too, approximately 25% killed were Hindus. Way more if you add the total number of ppl killed in terrorist attacks
1st Hindus were killed and then they stuck back and cleansed they area they deemed necessary. You incite violence, kill members of someone's family then you want ppl to be sensible? WOW!!! great minority ass kissing keep it up bigot. Put the full fact forward and if you dont know then just STFU and disappear.
And this bitterness goes way back when Mugals and other Muslim conquerors killed Hindus in tens of thousands just coz they didn't want to convert to Islam. They burnt down villages after villages. Not to mention destroyed thousands of temples and built victory mosques over the most important ones.
Two third-world shithole countries fighting over a long-disputed piece of land...Other than being the source of a couple of rivers, what natural resources does Kashmir have that both sides want?
From the wikipedia link posted above, it looks like Kashmir is an Al Queda stronghold...which may explain why Pakistan wants control so much. They seem to be in Al Queda's pocket...
I don't see anyone other than Indians and Pakistanians caring about this in the slightest. I doubt there will ever be a solution that's acceptable by all parties concerned.
As an outsider, watching India and Pakistan fight over the Kashmir region is like watching two retards fighting over a rotten apple. I don't know the background and all the nuances, but both India and Pakistan have huge issues of their own to deal before squabbling about Kashmir. Personally I think independence for Kashmir (if the people there vote for it) seems perfectly reasonable.
head of Pakistani Airforce talking about the 1965 war. He said 20 days before the "official start of war", Pakistani army sent 6000-8000 men with no fucking plan and attacked India. Check the videos.
So GB, if Paks keep attacking India, and keep provoking India , what do you expect them to do. Sit on their collective asses.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXB-iVcCvhQ&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djhkiqttu24&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yotJV7AyBsw&feature=related
kashmir was part of Indian heritage for more than 2000 years, just because there were muslims for 300 years, should it become part of pakistan.
poor pakistan its such a shithole.