Kavanaugh SCOTUS Senate Judicial Hearing

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ivwshane

Lifer
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New talking point? It’s a completely obvious counterpoint. Republicans claimed that because Kavanaugh is credibly accused of sexual assault that all future nominees will be. That’s contradicted by the fact that the last three nominees weren’t.

As for this one somehow being special that’s nonsense too. Samuel Alito replaced the previous swing justice, O’Connor, and moved the court in a more conservative direction just like this nomination would. There was no ‘smear’ campaign against him either. Why not? It was an identical situation to this.

So no, this point is directly contradicted by recent, observable history. Republicans are making this shit up because they have no other defense other than to impugn the motives of Democrats.

And Starbuck gladly carries the water for the Republicans too. If both sides aren't terrible its because reasons.
 

Bitek

Lifer
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The New York Times tried to, but could not corroborate Ms. Ramirez's alegation and have declined to run it, the same for the porn lawyers story. The co-author of the Ramirez story said they could not get a single firsthand account to corroborate the Ramirez account.
https://dailycaller.com/2018/09/24/new-york-times-second-kavanaugh-accuser/

You Tucker Carlson followers keep calling him "the porn lawyer", but you do realize that you just remind everyone that he's only famous because the porn president raw dogged a pornstar?

If you least called him Ambulance Chaser or something like that it wouldn't constantly remind us of Trump's Toady little dick plowing a well used professional cum sack because he rampantly cheats on his wife.

It also reminds us how shitty Trump is at being a criminal and is just getting brutalized by a nobody.
 

Starbuck1975

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That wasn't a question. It was just you denying reality. You've justified GOP behavior at every opportunity, even putting the blame for it on Ted Kennedy from 30 years ago. On Harry Reid. On Dem "obstructionism" as if GOP conduct over Obama's term wasn't exactly that. As if their conduct wrt Garland vaguely resembled anything principled at all. Don't forget McConnelll's made up "Biden rule". You've thrown down every bit of right wing boilerplate you could find in what you imagine to be a suitably coy fashion.

Why? Apparently to convince us that installing pro-life right wing ideologues on the SCOTUS by simple majority vote is some kind of normal we should all just accept as the democratic socialist way to do things.
Yet you can’t find even one quote of me supporting Kavanaugh for SCOTUS.
 

blackangst1

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So why hasnt Christine Blasey Ford pressed charges?

Oh thats right. She would need to provide WHERE and WHEN it happened, which she doesnt seem to know.

You would think someone who went through this much of a traumatic event, who remembered the staircase they walkled up and the room he pulled her in to, would be able to drive to the house where this allegedly happened.

AFA the FBI investigation, as much as I would support an investigation (which Ive said several times) I dont think its going to happen. It wasnt a federal crime, therefore local PD's responsibility. The difference with Thomas' accusation is that he was already a federal judge therefor falls under FBI jurisdiction. But not this one.

Any why hasnt anyone else come forward to support her claim? Or at least say "yeah, I was at that party".
 

Starbuck1975

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And Starbuck gladly carries the water for the Republicans too. If both sides aren't terrible its because reasons.
You are welcome to find a post where I support what McConnell did to Garland or the GOP rushing through Kavanaugh. You are also welcome to find a post where I endorse Kavanaugh.

So I am critical of Ted Kennedy, the Clintons and other hypocritical Democrats. Boo hoo water boy.
 

fskimospy

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So why hasnt Christine Blasey Ford pressed charges?

Oh thats right. She would need to provide WHERE and WHEN it happened, which she doesnt seem to know.

The reasons she hasn’t pressed charges should be transparently obvious. There’s no way she’s going to get a conviction on this, but when it comes to nominees we aren’t using a criminal standard or anything remotely close to it.

You’re better than repeating Trump’s bullshit.

You would think someone who went through this much of a traumatic event, who remembered the staircase they walkled up and the room he pulled her in to, would be able to drive to the house where this allegedly happened.

This seems to be directly contrary to the available research on how people remember traumatic events.

AFA the FBI investigation, as much as I would support an investigation (which Ive said several times) I dont think its going to happen. It wasnt a federal crime, therefore local PD's responsibility. The difference with Thomas' accusation is that he was already a federal judge therefor falls under FBI jurisdiction. But not this one.

This is not correct, the FBI would be investigating it as it pertains to the federal nomination process. They could absolutely investigate it if they wanted to. They wouldn’t be prosecuting someone anyway as that’s not the goal.

Interesting that you mention it though as it appears local law enforcement may in fact be opening an investigation into Kavanaugh.

Any why hasnt anyone else come forward to support her claim? Or at least say "yeah, I was at that party".

There were only like 4 or 5 people there total if I’m not mistaken and three of them are involved in the incident.
 

blackangst1

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This seems to be directly contrary to the available research on how people remember traumatic events.

Yes. Memories can be distorted or even forgotten. Im aware.


This is not correct, the FBI would be investigating it as it pertains to the federal nomination process. They could absolutely investigate it if they wanted to. They wouldn’t be prosecuting someone anyway as that’s not the goal.

You mean a second investigation, as one has already been done?

Interesting that you mention it though as it appears local law enforcement may in fact be opening an investigation into Kavanaugh.

And try him as a minor? That'll be fruitful lol
 

fskimospy

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lol, the whole school that kavanaugh is a total piece of shit (including kavanaugh)

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/24/business/brett-kavanaugh-yearbook-renate.html

That’s pretty disgusting. And to think that poor woman signed a letter testifying about how he was a good guy only to learn that he put an entry into his yearbook message bragging about how he was one of a group of guys who hooked up with her.

Man is this guy an entitled piece of shit. He could at least own it now.
 

fskimospy

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Well then why would you think she should be able to drive back to that house?

You mean a second investigation, as one has already been done?

Yes of course, they now have new information so further investigation seems smart, no?

And try him as a minor? That'll be fruitful lol

Huh? There would likely be no need to try him as a minor, regardless we should just be happy that some law enforcement is willing to look into this as it appears the FBI is being prevented from doing so.

I feel like it’s abundandly clear that Kavanaugh was a bad nominee. I feel like the only thing that is keeping his nomination alive now is tribalism. I am 100% positive bad the exact same information come out about Merrick Garland he would have been long gone.
 

blackangst1

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Well then why would you think she should be able to drive back to that house?



Yes of course, they now have new information so further investigation seems smart, no?



Huh? There would likely be no need to try him as a minor, regardless we should just be happy that some law enforcement is willing to look into this as it appears the FBI is being prevented from doing so.

I feel like it’s abundandly clear that Kavanaugh was a bad nominee. I feel like the only thing that is keeping his nomination alive now is tribalism. I am 100% positive bad the exact same information come out about Merrick Garland he would have been long gone.

I guess we agree to disagree. Im OK with that.
 
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fskimospy

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I guess we agree to disagree. Im OK with that.

I struggle to understand why anyone looking at this from a rational and objective standpoint would not want credible accusations of sexual assault by I believe (as of now) four separate women before someone is given a lifetime appointment to an unreviewable court. I wouldn’t be surprised if it didn’t stop at four either.

This is basic good governance. Republicans need to start remembering they are Americans first, Republicans second. Country before party.
 

Jhhnn

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Yet you can’t find even one quote of me supporting Kavanaugh for SCOTUS.

So you have not directly supported Kavanaugh, just all the GOP justifications & sleazy methods for ramming him through onto the SCOTUS. There is no functional difference.
 

Bitek

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So why hasnt Christine Blasey Ford pressed charges?

Oh thats right. She would need to provide WHERE and WHEN it happened, which she doesnt seem to know.

You would think someone who went through this much of a traumatic event, who remembered the staircase they walkled up and the room he pulled her in to, would be able to drive to the house where this allegedly happened.

AFA the FBI investigation, as much as I would support an investigation (which Ive said several times) I dont think its going to happen. It wasnt a federal crime, therefore local PD's responsibility. The difference with Thomas' accusation is that he was already a federal judge therefor falls under FBI jurisdiction. But not this one.

Any why hasnt anyone else come forward to support her claim? Or at least say "yeah, I was at that party".

Have you been to many parties?

I couldn't point out where 99% of them were, but I do recall the smell of the girl and her fun box if I was lucky to get that far.

Hell, there's an apartment I lived in for a year in college I couldn't find if I had to and I'm younger than Ford is.

How many classrooms could you guide someone to if you had to, but do you remember the lessons?

I don't agree with your assumption at all.
 
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FIVR

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McConnel and Kavanugh are going to thrust and push their way through whether America wants it or not. They're trying to grab all of us by the pussy
 

IronWing

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McConnel and Kavanugh are going to thrust and push their way through whether America wants it or not. They're trying to grab all of us by the pussy
What's this us shit? Kavanaugh is exactly what your boy wants.
 

IJTSSG

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I struggle to understand why anyone looking at this from a rational and objective standpoint would not want credible accusations of sexual assault by I believe (as of now) four separate women before someone is given a lifetime appointment to an unreviewable court. I wouldn’t be surprised if it didn’t stop at four either.

This is basic good governance. Republicans need to start remembering they are Americans first, Republicans second. Country before party.
Maybe it's because not one piece of corroborating evidence has been presented. In fact, just the opposite since every "witness" these women have named has said, "Uh, no."

The only ones who think this is credible is the TDS suffering hyper-partisans. I understand that the queen of their brooklyn chapter has to carry the water but this is an easy one. You really should start spitting. They should've never agreed to let Dr. Ford testify but since they have they should have the hearings Thursday, the judicial committee should vote Thursday night, the full Senate should vote Friday and Judge Kavanaugh should get sworn in shortly thereafter and this kabuki dance is over.
 
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urvile

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That wasn't a question. It was just you denying reality. You've justified GOP behavior at every opportunity, even putting the blame for it on Ted Kennedy from 30 years ago. On Harry Reid. On Dem "obstructionism" as if GOP conduct over Obama's term wasn't exactly that. As if their conduct wrt Garland vaguely resembled anything principled at all. Don't forget McConnelll's made up "Biden rule". You've thrown down every bit of right wing boilerplate you could find in what you imagine to be a suitably coy fashion.

Why? Apparently to convince us that installing pro-life right wing ideologues on the SCOTUS by simple majority vote is some kind of normal we should all just accept as the democratic socialist way to do things.

That's why I blocked starbuck-buck-buck a long time ago. He thinks he is hiding his true agenda and it gives me the shits.
 
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