Kavanaugh SCOTUS Senate Judicial Hearing

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senseamp

Lifer
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They can do whatever they want. Most likely, the Democrats on the committee will softball her and make a number of speeches that in essence support her rather than try through questioning to determine the underlying facts.
Are they allowed to have a sexual assault prosecutor question Kavanaugh himself, or is that just for the little people?
 

HomerJS

Lifer
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Isn't it funny of the Republicans since Anita Hill it wasn't important to them having a woman on the Senate Judiciary Committee until now.
 

senseamp

Lifer
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Isn't it funny of the Republicans since Anita Hill it wasn't important to them having a woman on the Senate Judiciary Committee until now.
It was important to them not to have women on the committee, so they can ram all these anti-women's rights nominees through.
 

Josephus312

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Are they allowed to have a sexual assault prosecutor question Kavanaugh himself, or is that just for the little people?

He doesn't care, he's "Christian" and thinks women are worth about three fiddy on the shekel if you rape them.

Fucking evangelicals, if we could rid our nation of them in one fell swoop we might even catch up to Poland (the worst nation for women's rights in Europe.).

But no such luck, we have to deal with a bunch of retarded yahoos that think a 2000 year old book with 4000 old laws is the way to build a modern society.
 

HomerJS

Lifer
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Just a hypothetical, suppose someone 35 years ago came forward and claimed Kavanaugh used to microwave kittens when he was 17 wouldn't there at least be an independent investigation by professionals on the specific claim?

Even at 17 if true would be an indication of a serious character flaw. Would you hire someone with that out there?
 

esquared

Forum Director & Omnipotent Overlord
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Lets denigrate women even more.
The person asking the questions to Dr. Ford will be a "female assistant" according to the turtle.

Mitch McConnell describes attorney questioning Kavanaugh and his accuser a 'female assistant'
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/mit...e-blasey-ford-female-assistant-234518408.html

“We have hired a female assistant to go on staff and to ask these questions in a respectful and professional way,”

Because the optics look bad when you have cadaverous, old white men asking questions regarding, a sexual assault
to Dr. Ford. So you hire a female attorney to do your dirty work, but you don't even have the respect or
professionalism to call her what she is.
An attorney.

Piss off, you deplorables.
 

Josephus312

Senior member
Aug 10, 2018
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Just a hypothetical, suppose someone 35 years ago came forward and claimed Kavanaugh used to microwave kittens when he was 17 wouldn't there at least be an independent investigation by professionals on the specific claim?

Even at 17 if true would be an indication of a serious character flaw. Would you hire someone with that out there?

I love cats, I love women more..... I don't know if what he's accused for is something he did but I know this one thing, you don't hurt women. My dad taught me that and he was the best man I'll ever know. I've taught my son that and sure, he might be called a soyboy for not hitting women but it's fuckign worth it.
 

sportage

Lifer
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Well... if democrats had the balls, and they don't, they might take back the government in the midterms and proceed to impeach not only this Trump appointee but the other justice as well.
Impeach them both!
This current Trump appointee is a rapist and a perv. Impeachment should be simple.
And the other guy was falsely installed on the bench.
That guy should have been Obama's guy.
Republicans perverted the system to disallow Obama his guy.
So hell... impeach BOTH of these loonies.
I'd say democrats have their work laid out before them.
A simple task.
And like the republicans, just do it!
Don't give a "F" what people think or how they react.
Just do it.
 

Indus

Lifer
May 11, 2002
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Well... if democrats had the balls, and they don't, they might take back the government in the midterms and proceed to impeach not only this Trump appointee but the other justice as well.
Impeach them both!
This current Trump appointee is a rapist and a perv. Impeachment should be simple.
And the other guy was falsely installed on the bench.
That guy should have been Obama's guy.
Republicans perverted the system to disallow Obama his guy.
So hell... impeach BOTH of these loonies.
I'd say democrats have their work laid out before them.
A simple task.
And like the republicans, just do it!
Don't give a "F" what people think or how they react.
Just do it.

Not just that.. every judicial appointment by Trump must be impeached and removed. We can have no lingering Russian infestation.

That isn't politics, its common sense and patriotism. We have to take our country back!
 

fskimospy

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If I were telling the truth, I would need no time to prepare regardless of who was asking the questions.

Then you would get destroyed as a witness, especially if you were testifying to something where your memory was imperfect. Attorneys are experts at tricking people into giving inconsistent answers even when the witness is attempting to be entirely truthful.

If you were part of a case and told your lawyer that you didn’t need to prepare for a deposition or trial because you were going to tell the truth they would tell you that you’re a fool.
 
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Starbuck1975

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Then you would get destroyed as a witness, especially if you were testifying to something where your memory was imperfect. Attorneys are experts at tricking people into giving inconsistent answers even when the witness is attempting to be entirely truthful.

If you were part of a case and told your lawyer that you didn’t need to prepare for a deposition or trial because you were going to tell the truth they would tell you that you’re a fool.
I was called to testify at a court martial without the benefit of counsel or preparation. The only protection I had was the truth, and the truth was the only shield I needed.
 
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Starbuck1975

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Are they allowed to have a sexual assault prosecutor question Kavanaugh himself, or is that just for the little people?
A sexual assault prosecutor would be more sympathetic to the accuser than the accused, but I would expect also has the skills to determine when the accuser’s account doesn’t hold up.

Prosecutors normally question the accused, not just the accuser.
This isn’t a criminal proceeding. It is a job interview, and this is the venue chosen by the hiring manager to address claims against the candidate.

Nothing is stopping Dr. Ford from filing charges in Maryland, the state has literally invited her to.
 

fskimospy

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I was called to testify at a court martial without the benefit of counsel or preparation. The only protection I had was the truth, and the truth was the only shield I needed.

You may have done so but that doesn’t mean that was a good idea.

I would love to see if a single one of the actual lawyers on here think Ford would be smart to go into this proceeding without any preparation because she planned to tell the truth.

A single, solitary one.
 

dphantom

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Jan 14, 2005
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Lets denigrate women even more.
The person asking the questions to Dr. Ford will be a "female assistant" according to the turtle.

Mitch McConnell describes attorney questioning Kavanaugh and his accuser a 'female assistant'
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/mit...e-blasey-ford-female-assistant-234518408.html

“We have hired a female assistant to go on staff and to ask these questions in a respectful and professional way,”

Because the optics look bad when you have cadaverous, old white men asking questions regarding, a sexual assault
to Dr. Ford. So you hire a female attorney to do your dirty work, but you don't even have the respect or
professionalism to call her what she is.
An attorney.

Piss off, you deplorables.
We, or at least I have been promoted from deplorable to dregs now.
 
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Bitek

Lifer
Aug 2, 2001
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Millions of dollars in book deals when it's all over and done? Enhanced prestige in the activist political world? Speaking tours?

Is that why Andrea Constand accused Cosby?

He still maintains his innocence. Should we free him from prison?

Read her statement, what it did to her, and why these things are taken seriously. (but not by all unfortunately.)

"After the assault, I wasn't sure what had actually happened but the pain spoke volumes. The shame was overwhelming. Self-doubt and confusion kept me from turning to my family or friends as I normally did. I felt completely alone, unable to trust anyone, including myself."

She wrote that she had stopped eating, sleeping and socialising. Tormented by nightmares, she finally told her mother the truth about what had happened.

"Bill Cosby took my beautiful, healthy young spirit and crushed it," she said. "He robbed me of my health and vitality, my open nature, and my trust in myself and others."

"Instead of looking back, I am looking forward to looking forward," she added. "I want to get to the place where the person I was meant to be gets a second chance."


Your rationalizations do not match what actual victims experience and behave like afterwards.

@Starbuck1975 could read up too. It's not the way these things work.
 

emperus

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SO let's not get the FBI to investigate but let's hire a sex crime prosecutor to ask questions? Does that make any sense? I also heard Kavanaugh's attorney on TV. Her interview was a mess. Not sure how Kavanaugh will fair better, given he has to answer all the questions asked.
 

HomerJS

Lifer
Feb 6, 2002
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A sexual assault prosecutor would be more sympathetic to the accuser than the accused, but I would expect also has the skills to determine when the accuser’s account doesn’t hold up.

This isn’t a criminal proceeding. It is a job interview, and this is the venue chosen by the hiring manager to address claims against the candidate.

Nothing is stopping Dr. Ford from filing charges in Maryland, the state has literally invited her to.
I suspect if Kavanaugh is confirmed she may do that. He goal is to prevent him from being a justice because of what he did to her. Problem is Maryland courts do not offer that as a remedy. If he is charged Congress would have to move to have him impeached and they may only do that if he is found guilty.
 

HomerJS

Lifer
Feb 6, 2002
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Is that why Andrea Constand accused Cosby?

He still maintains his innocence. Should we free him from prison?

Read her statement, what it did to her, and why these things are taken seriously. (but not by all unfortunately.)

"After the assault, I wasn't sure what had actually happened but the pain spoke volumes. The shame was overwhelming. Self-doubt and confusion kept me from turning to my family or friends as I normally did. I felt completely alone, unable to trust anyone, including myself."

She wrote that she had stopped eating, sleeping and socialising. Tormented by nightmares, she finally told her mother the truth about what had happened.

"Bill Cosby took my beautiful, healthy young spirit and crushed it," she said. "He robbed me of my health and vitality, my open nature, and my trust in myself and others."

"Instead of looking back, I am looking forward to looking forward," she added. "I want to get to the place where the person I was meant to be gets a second chance."


Your rationalizations do not match what actual victims experience and behave like afterwards.

@Starbuck1975 could read up too. It's not the way these things work.
PLEASE! Taj doesn't care about women, he just wants his pound of liberal flesh and tears.
 

HomerJS

Lifer
Feb 6, 2002
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Thursday's hearing will not get to the ultimate truth it will be a test of character and credibility.

Kavanaugh's first statement after being nominated was a lie so we all know what side he start on.

“No president has ever consulted more widely, or talked with more people from more backgrounds, to seek input about a Supreme Court nomination,” Kavanaugh said.

Based on Trump's history we know that was a bald face lie.

If you can't trust someone with the small stuff how can they be trusted with the really important stuff?
 

K1052

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SO let's not get the FBI to investigate but let's hire a sex crime prosecutor to ask questions? Does that make any sense? I also heard Kavanaugh's attorney on TV. Her interview was a mess. Not sure how Kavanaugh will fair better, given he has to answer all the questions asked.

His performance on Fox News wasn't particularly impressive. Not sure how he'll hold up to Democratic senators asking tough and very personal questions.

It's not really cool that the Republicans are shirking their duties because they are afraid they'll come off as out of touch tools. If they in fact ARE out of touch tools then the voters have the right to know it. This prosecutor seems to be something of a black box and I'm sure that's what was intended.
 

HomerJS

Lifer
Feb 6, 2002
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His performance on Fox News wasn't particularly impressive. Not sure how he'll hold up to Democratic senators asking tough and very personal questions.

It's not really cool that the Republicans are shirking their duties because they are afraid they'll come off as out of touch tools. If they in fact ARE out of touch tools then the voters have the right to know it. This prosecutor seems to be something of a black box and I'm sure that's what was intended.
Republicans don't care about the Constitution because they are shirking their Constitutional duties. They should resign from the committee.
 

vi edit

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I heard this morning that each side will get 5 minutes for Kavanaugh and 5 minutes for Ford. That's it. Did I hear that right?
 
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