Kavanaugh SCOTUS Senate Judicial Hearing

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jackstar7

Lifer
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The truth doesn't change but some people are skilled at question phrasing and when they get you to agree you are cornered.

It would be best practice for anyone giving critical testimony to rehearse. Especially listening carefully and taking your time to answer.
It's almost like witness prep is something legal firms typically have specialists to handle for... you know... reasons.
 

HomerJS

Lifer
Feb 6, 2002
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Kavanaugh has a lifetime appointment to a federal appeals court. This is not about removing him, not yet, anyway, but rather about preventing his advancement to the SCOTUS, an infinitely more powerful position than he now holds.
If he participated in a gang rape he can be prosecuted. No SOL in Maryland. That will get him off the bench.
 

cytg111

Lifer
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Getting Kavanaugh may cost em both the house and the senate ... say hello to a shitstorm of investigations into whatever Trump has ever pissed on.
Mmmm... is that a subtle scent of game over I smell in the air?
 

Hayabusa Rider

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One normal ape and one ape with severe brain damage from falling out of a tree who is dropping most of the feces on his own head.
So true.

It occurs to me that having Trump on Kavanaugh's side is like having Charles Manson as a character witness if one was accused of capital murder.
 
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UNCjigga

Lifer
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Strange he didn't do that days ago?

Instead of going on fox news proclaiming he was a virgin that never drank until he got the legal age of 18?

Hmm. What to make of that?

Well, allegations just went from stumbling, drunken fondling and maybe attempted rape? to full on incapacitating women and gang rape.

If I'm 100% innocent, I want the local law enforcement, FBI, hell Capitol Police and Secret Service looking into why the allegations are being made or who's paying for them.
 
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Indus

Lifer
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Well, allegations just went from stumbling, drunken fondling and maybe attempted rape? to full on incapacitating women and gang rape.

If I'm 100% innocent, I want the local law enforcement, FBI, hell Capitol Police and Secret Service looking into why the allegations are being made or who's paying for them.

Yep I would too. I would want my name cleared!
 

Bitek

Lifer
Aug 2, 2001
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Well, allegations just went from stumbling, drunken fondling and maybe attempted rape? to full on incapacitating women and gang rape.

If I'm 100% innocent, I want the local law enforcement, FBI, hell Capitol Police and Secret Service looking into why the allegations are being made or who's paying for them.

Yep. Bring them in and don't lie.

When you don't do that...
 

HomerJS

Lifer
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Starbuck1975

Lifer
Jan 6, 2005
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Yet you, like the Rs, have spent the time since digging in.

People don't forget.

I get their game. I don't understand yours here.
My game is simple. I reject the GOP but that doesn’t mean I give a free pass to the Democrats.

It’s quite easy to reject Kavanaugh the candidate but also question the sexual assault charged against him. Those positions are not in conflict, and the Democrats have no high ground to stand on when it comes to boy’s club misogyny.
 

kn51

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There are two possibilities. Either there is a vast liberal conspiracy to derail the nomination of an ultra right-wing judge (knowing full well they'll just trot out another one). Or BK is a pervy guy prone to heavy drinking and gambling, who got nominated because he believes presidents don't have to answer subpoenas.

Well as you state it, more coherent than Ginsburg.
 

sactoking

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Getting Kavanaugh may cost em both the house and the senate ... say hello to a shitstorm of investigations into whatever Trump has ever pissed on.
Mmmm... is that a subtle scent of game over I smell in the air?
If I'm A Republican playing the long game why would I care? Either or both chamber of Congress can be retaken in 2 or 4 years. If the unindicted conspirator is sacrificed, who cares? I never really liked him anyway. Getting Kavanaugh confirmed gets me that seat for 20-30 years. Once confirmed he becomes essentially untouchable. Don't think so? Look at how well impeaching Clarence Thomas has gone. For an establishment Republican there is essentially no downside to confirming him even if he's polling at 0%.
 
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HomerJS

Lifer
Feb 6, 2002
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My game is simple. I reject the GOP but that doesn’t mean I give a free pass to the Democrats.

It’s quite easy to reject Kavanaugh the candidate but also question the sexual assault charged against him. Those positions are not in conflict, and the Democrats have no high ground to stand on when it comes to boy’s club misogyny.
That's been my position with this case. However since Ford's story came out Kavanaugh's behavior has been one of guilt. Ford's has been one of innocence. We may never know exactly what happened so this has turned into a case of credibility. Ford has far more then Kavanaugh.
 
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HomerJS

Lifer
Feb 6, 2002
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If I'm A Republican playing the long game why would I care? Either or both chamber of Congress can be retaken in 2 or 4 years. If the unindicted conspirator is sacrificed, who cares? I never really liked him anyway. Getting Kavanaugh confirmed gets me that seat for 20-30 years. Once confirmed he becomes essentially untouchable. Don't think so? Look at how well impeaching Clarence Thomas has gone. For an establishment Republican there is essentially no downside to confirming him even if he's polling at 0%.
So even if Kavanaugh was a serial predator of women, confirm him anyway? Don't really care about the credibility of the court do ya?
 

Indus

Lifer
May 11, 2002
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If I'm A Republican playing the long game why would I care? Either or both chamber of Congress can be retaken in 2 or 4 years. If the unindicted conspirator is sacrificed, who cares? I never really liked him anyway. Getting Kavanaugh confirmed gets me that seat for 20-30 years. Once confirmed he becomes essentially untouchable. Don't think so? Look at how well impeaching Clarence Thomas has gone. For an establishment Republican there is essentially no downside to confirming him even if he's polling at 0%.

Can a sitting scotus justice be indicted, tried, convicted? Well if you ask Kav, he'll say he's above the law.
 

Maxima1

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If I'm A Republican playing the long game why would I care? Either or both chamber of Congress can be retaken in 2 or 4 years. If the unindicted conspirator is sacrificed, who cares? I never really liked him anyway. Getting Kavanaugh confirmed gets me that seat for 20-30 years. Once confirmed he becomes essentially untouchable. Don't think so? Look at how well impeaching Clarence Thomas has gone. For an establishment Republican there is essentially no downside to confirming him even if he's polling at 0%.

They only get it for decades if the Democrats decide to be completely and utterly spineless. There's nothing in the Constitution that says the SC has to be 9.
 

soundforbjt

Lifer
Feb 15, 2002
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If I'm A Republican playing the long game why would I care? Either or both chamber of Congress can be retaken in 2 or 4 years. If the unindicted conspirator is sacrificed, who cares? I never really liked him anyway. Getting Kavanaugh confirmed gets me that seat for 20-30 years. Once confirmed he becomes essentially untouchable. Don't think so? Look at how well impeaching Clarence Thomas has gone. For an establishment Republican there is essentially no downside to confirming him even if he's polling at 0%.
Agreed.
Republicans always play the long game, that's why they control as much of the local, state, and federal government they do at this point.
 
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sactoking

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So even if Kavanaugh was a serial predator of women, confirm him anyway? Don't really care about the credibility of the court do ya?
So long as the Constitution says the Supreme Court is the highest court in the country the credibility of any individual member or even the members collectively is irrelevant in that calculus. If you get the verdicts you want and they cannot be overturned you have won.
 
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