Kavanaugh SCOTUS Senate Judicial Hearing

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abj13

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Gang rape almost always leaves the victim with genital injuries and extensive bruising.

Exactly how are you an expert in this information? Watching Law and Order too much?

Sugar NF, Fine DN, Eckert LO. Physical injury after sexual assault: findings of a large case series. Am J Obstet Gynecol. 2004 Jan;190(1):71-6.

Of victims assaulted by more than one assailant, 38.9% did not have any evidence of bodily trauma (includes both genital and non-genital injuries).

If intellectual honesty truly matters to you, I suggest you revise your post.
 

Starbuck1975

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Why do you assume I am the one to listen to? I haven't accused Kavanaugh of assaulting me or anyone I know.

So, just shut up and listen when these people explain their stories.

You're so impatient and need to form your conclusions with all this haste. Why? What is it you're so desperately breathless to see happen? Will these women be exposed as liars and tools of a horrifying Dem plot to sabotage Kav's confirmation? Simultaneously confirming so many MRA dudes fears about lying women out to destroy lives of honest men who just like to speak their mind and not have to worry about the PC police all the time or think about where their hands go when they're around women?

I don't know what your deal is, but you seem to have a big ol' axe you want to grind. Why not leave us all out of it?
I am listening, and questioning the accusations that don’t make sense. Your talking points are stale by the way.
 
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Starbuck1975

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If you think all rapes involve violent beatings....
Here's an idea... drugged women probably don't resist. And the perps like it that way, without the need for medical / police records to follow.
Didn’t say beatings. If you were paying attention to what I wrote or read the article I linked, you wpuld discover that internal injuries such as irreparable genital injuries often occur during gang rapes, even when the victim is drunk or sedated.
 
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jackstar7

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I am listening, and questioning the accusations that don’t make sense. Your talking points are stale by the way.
Questioning, but not waiting for answers before you make your conclusions.

You ain't listening to shit. You're hearing only what you tune in.

But do explain your motives here. It's an open platform to do just that.
 

jackstar7

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Didn’t say beatings. If you were paying attention to what I wrote or read the article I linked, you wpuld discover that internal injuries such as irreparable genital injuries often occur during gang rapes, even when the victim is drunk or sedated.
You keep pinning a lot on "almost" and "often."
 

soundforbjt

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Didn’t say beatings. If you were paying attention to what I wrote or read the article I linked, you wpuld discover that internal injuries such as irreparable genital injuries often occur during gang rapes, even when the victim is drunk or sedated.
Often, but not always.
 

ecogen

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Didn’t say beatings. If you were paying attention to what I wrote or read the article I linked, you wpuld discover that internal injuries such as irreparable genital injuries often occur during gang rapes, even when the victim is drunk or sedated.

This is your original claim.
Gang rape almost always leaves the victim with genital injuries and extensive bruising.

And this is actual info from a study.
Sugar NF, Fine DN, Eckert LO. Physical injury after sexual assault: findings of a large case series. Am J Obstet Gynecol. 2004 Jan;190(1):71-6.

Of victims assaulted by more than one assailant, 38.9% did not have any evidence of bodily trauma (includes both genital and non-genital injuries).


So unless almost always in your head is the same as 60% of the time we're waiting for you to admit you were wrong. Cheers.
 
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Starbuck1975

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Exactly how are you an expert in this information? Watching Law and Order too much?

Sugar NF, Fine DN, Eckert LO. Physical injury after sexual assault: findings of a large case series. Am J Obstet Gynecol. 2004 Jan;190(1):71-6.

Of victims assaulted by more than one assailant, 38.9% did not have any evidence of bodily trauma (includes both genital and non-genital injuries).

If intellectual honesty truly matters to you, I suggest you revise your post.
Don’t need to revise anything as your post doesn’t contradict what I wrote. 38.9% did not have evidence of trauma. The statistic I’ve consistently heard is 50% to 60% of gang rape victims have physical trauma, which means Kavanaugh and company would have at least one in their wake.
 
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jackstar7

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Don’t need to revise anything as your post doesn’t contradict what I wrote. 38.9% did not have evidence of trauma. The statistic I’ve consistently heard is 50% to 60% of gang rape victims have physical trauma, which means Kavanaugh and company would have at least one in their wake.
You keep doubling down, but you don't have any more chips.
 

ecogen

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Don’t need to revise anything as your post doesn’t contradict what I wrote. 38.9% did not have evidence of trauma. The statistic I’ve consistently heard is 50% to 60% of gang rape victims have physical trauma, which means Kavanaugh and company would have at least one in their wake.

Sigh. There go the goalposts.

Again, this is your original claim:
Gang rape almost always leaves the victim with genital injuries and extensive bruising.

Admit it was wrong.
 
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Oh hey, there's a 5th accusation against Kavanaugh involving rape on a boat:

https://twitter.com/jeneps/status/1045091112287965185

"Because of the implication" doesn't mean actually going through with rape... 'because if she says no, the answer is obviously no'
Lol, another one that can't pass the smell test. This would begin to be funny if it wasn't destroying a mans life and charting the path of Politics in the United States for the next 50 years.
 

ecogen

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Your mistake is believing there were ever goal posts.

I guess.

I bet he won't show up in the thread for a while because even a clown like him can't unironically write something along the lines of "well ackshually 60% can mean almost always so I'm technically correct".
 

UNCjigga

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AHHH THERES A 5TH ALLEGATION? Rape on a boat??? Stop the madness!!! Pull the plug now!!! Please!!!
 

Starbuck1975

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Exactly how are you an expert in this information? Watching Law and Order too much?

Sugar NF, Fine DN, Eckert LO. Physical injury after sexual assault: findings of a large case series. Am J Obstet Gynecol. 2004 Jan;190(1):71-6.

Of victims assaulted by more than one assailant, 38.9% did not have any evidence of bodily trauma (includes both genital and non-genital injuries).

If intellectual honesty truly matters to you, I suggest you revise your post.

You keep pinning a lot on "almost" and "often."

Often, but not always.

This is your original claim.

And this is actual info from a study.

So unless almost always in your head is the same as 60% of the time we're waiting for you to admit you were wrong. Cheers.

Fair points all. 60% is not “almost always” per my original post. It is not “almost always”. It is 60% if the time, and I will let all of you label that frequency by however you see fit. I will say that 60% is not insignificant.

Given the claims against Kavanaugh, at 60% probability, there is a high likelihood of there being at least one victim with injuries sufficient to attract the attention of a parent, school nurse or physician.
 
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