Kavanaugh SCOTUS Senate Judicial Hearing

[ivwshane]

Don’t be intellectually dishonest.

By asking you the definition of a word? Is English your first language because so far you are horrible at it.

 

[Maxima1]

I did, and no, privacy doesn’t dictate lack of investigation? Are you actually saying that because she wanted privacy, that no investigation should happen? That the most coveted job on this earth, the most important, you don’t investigate?

What's "late"? We still needed the Kavanaugh documents, so we actually have more than a few weeks.. And why does it matter when the allegations came about? It was before the vote, so why would you dismiss opening an investigation simply because it came at an inconvenient time?

 

[Maxima1]

Manchin's a yes vote. Kavanaugh will be confirmed.

I...still can't believe it.

Are we at that point when this rift in the country becomes permanent? The "cold civil war" ignites???

Where are you reading this? That's a fucking disgrace if true.

 

[Jhhnn]

None of the details matter after the shit show Kavanaugh gave us today. That's not how a Supreme Cort justice should comport themselves at all. Not one little bit. The GOP made a huge mistake in nominating him and will only compound that error by confirming him.

 

[UNCjigga]

Where are you reading this? That's a fucking disgrace if true.

https://twitter.com/elainaplott/status/1045478279220797440?s=21

Rumor is that Flake, Collins and Murkowski are all in agreement. 52 votes. WTF.

 

[Jhhnn]

Manchin's a yes vote. Kavanaugh will be confirmed.

I...still can't believe it.

Are we at that point when this rift in the country becomes permanent? The "cold civil war" ignites???

That's just some anonymous source bloviating.

 

[Maxima1]

https://twitter.com/elainaplott/status/1045478279220797440?s=21

Rumor is that Flake, Collins and Murkowski are all in agreement. 52 votes. WTF.

In some ways, allowing Kavanaugh in could be more useful to Democrats,especially if Democrats can't win the Senate, and the turtle puts in someone like Hardiman. I think Kavanaugh being in will garner more support for just packing the court.

 

[UNCjigga]

https://twitter.com/elainaplott/status/1045478279220797440?s=21

Rumor is that Flake, Collins and Murkowski are all in agreement. 52 votes. WTF.

Edit: Unless...Manchin saves face by voting Yea and the other 3 are Nays?? Maybe...but not holding my breath. I do not want this manon the highest court. Time for activism.

 

[FIVR]

This is the best of both worlds. We get to impeach Kavanaugh after the midterms and then pack the supreme court!

It's not like they wouldn't put some other scumbag in there before the end of the lame duck session anyway. This way we get this supreme court seat no matter what, and we probably get the senate early.

 

[Zstream]

By asking you the definition of a word? Is English your first language because so far you are horrible at it.

No, your an hack, and you know it. You stated that because this lady wanted privacy, that nothing could be investigated. Again, don’t be daft, your ignorance is showing.

 

[FIVR]

I mean come on guys, kavanaugh seems like a lot of fun. Imagine all the crazy hi jinx he will get into. Imagine all the investigations we could have into him by december. It's gonna be a lot of fun. There is more sobbing to be done in this sob story.

 

[Zstream]

What's "late"? We still needed the Kavanaugh documents, so we actually have more than a few weeks.. And why does it matter when the allegations came about? It was before the vote, so why would you dismiss opening an investigation simply because it came at an inconvenient time?

What Kavanaugh documents are you referring? You don’t need any documents from either party to have the FBI to investigate. Again, go spin this in your circle, maybe you guys get a high off of it.

The timing matters because of intent!

 

[Zstream]

This is the best of both worlds. We get to impeach Kavanaugh after the midterms and then pack the supreme court!

It's not like they wouldn't put some other scumbag in there before the end of the lame duck session anyway. This way we get this supreme court seat no matter what, and we probably get the senate early.

See, you’re an idiot. You think this precedent by the Democrats will go unnoticed? You would cut off your nose, to spite your face.

 

[ivwshane]

No, your an hack, and you know it. You stated that because this lady wanted privacy, that nothing could be investigated. Again, don’t be daft, your ignorance is showing.

So confidential doesn't mean what I think it means and now dems have always had the ability to call for an investigation like the ones they called for in mid September?

If my ignorance is showing then enlighten me.

 

[Jhhnn]

Edit: Unless...Manchin saves face by voting Yea and the other 3 are Nays?? Maybe...but not holding my breath. I do not want this manon the highest court. Time for activism.

Collins, Murkowski & Manchin do not want to have to vote on Kavanaugh's confirmation at all. Flake can make it that way for them.

 

[UNCjigga]

Ok Manchin now saying that rumors are false, "the four" have not reached any conclusions.

 

[ivwshane]

What Kavanaugh documents are you referring? You don’t need any documents from either party to have the FBI to investigate. Again, go spin this in your circle, maybe you guys get a high off of it.

The timing matters because of intent!

Lol now who's being ignorant? Are you telling me that it is unnecessary for senators to be able to look at a candidates record in order to determine whether or not to give their consent?

Surely you aren't this stupid to believe that.

 

[soundforbjt]

https://twitter.com/elainaplott/status/1045478279220797440?s=21

Rumor is that Flake, Collins and Murkowski are all in agreement. 52 votes. WTF.

I figured Flake was a yes after his performance in the hearing, besides it's in his last name.

 

[ivwshane]

I figured Flake was a yes after his performance in the hearing, besides it's in his last name.

In the hearing he yielded most of his time, it seemed like he was trying to lay low.

 

[Zstream]

Lol now who's being ignorant? Are you telling me that it is unnecessary for senators to be able to look at a candidates record in order to determine whether or not to give their consent?

Surely you aren't this stupid to believe that.

What are you talking about? You don’t need any documents for an FBI investigation. Please, tell me what documents from either party are required. The lady stated this person committed a crime! Are you saying that people can commit crimes, go on a short list for the Supreme Court, and nothing should be said or done until the last day before confirmation?

Can you please just stop with the partisan crap? Can we not debate policy anymore?

 

[soundforbjt]

In the hearing he yielded most of his time, it seemed like he was trying to lay low.

But that one minute wasn't reassuring.

 

[ivwshane]

What are you talking about? You don’t need any documents for an FBI investigation. Please, tell me what documents from either party are required. The lady stated this person committed a crime! Are you saying that people can commit crimes, go on a short list for the Supreme Court, and nothing should be said or done until the last day before confirmation?

Can you please just stop with the partisan crap? Can we not debate policy anymore?

You don't seem to be able to follow along. Try again and get back to us when you have a clue what's being discussed.

 

[sao123]

Anyone who still believes Ford is credible needs to either examine the evidence more, or have their head examined.

1)Her story is incomplete, inconclusive, and factually useless.
Despite all her testimony about "Memory", She cannot remember the year, the date, the time, what grade she was in, when the assault took place. She cannot remember where the assault took place. Couldnt remember the house, the street, who owned the house, how she got there or how she got home, and couldnt remember anything other than it was about 20 minutes from her parents house in Maryland.
Her memory of the events was so bad, she called her friends to assist her in remembering the details of what happened that she had long forgotten.

Despite non memory of anything else, the one positive thing she is sure of is that it is Brett Kavanaugh.

In the past 2 weeks, the senate has interviewed 2 individuals each twice, who have come forward with detailed, specific, and credible information, that they might be the person(s) responsible for Fords assault, and that this is a case of mistaken identity.

2)Her story is inconsistent and shifting overtime.
If she affirmed that she never told ANYONE of what happened, including her mom or her best friend, then how could she call on her friends to help her recall her memory? Furthermore, if she never told anyone, then why did witness and friend of the victim, Christina King come forward and claim that it was the talk of school for days after the occurrence?

Then there is the question of shifting age. she told her therapist in 2012 she was in her "late teens", but in her polygraph testimony she said she was 15 at the time. 15 is NOT late teens.

The story of who was present at the party and in the room has changed at least 3 times. First it was told to her therapist it was herself and 4 boys (Kavanaugh, Judge, PJ, and one unnamed she couldnt remember), all of whom were in the room. Then the story shifted to there were 5 others at the party, including the 4 mentioned above and including a new witness her lifelong friend Leland Ingham Keyser, and this time the only 2 in the room were Kavanaugh and Mark Judge. The story again shifted that there were those 5 at the party and at least a few more girls.

she told Congress that she did not want to come testify before them because she was afraid to fly. Congress offered to come to her for her testimony AND her records prove that she flies frequently including trips to Hawaii, French Polynesia, and Costa Rica.

3)Corroborating evidence
All 4 people Ford named at the party, including her own lifelong friend and witness, denied that the party ever took place. Keyser also testified that she never attended a party where he was present.

4)Other skeptical information
In 2012 she never named the person who performed the rape, in fact his name never surfaced until 2016.
In an interview with the Washington Post, Ford said she was very upset that Brett Kavanaugh was on Donald Trumps Supreme Court possible appointee list. Unfortunately Kavanaugh was never on that list in 2016.


5)Motive
Why wait 36 years to come forward? What is her motive? To me although she asserts her motive is purely nonpolitical, it can't be anything but. The fact that her motive is purely political weighs heavily against her credibility. She is a known political activist. People ask what does she gain from this? Easy, the defeat of a political enemy seen as a misogynist and a threat to abortion rights.

Lets speculate for a minute...If Kavanaugh was not appointed to the supreme court, this allegation would have never have surfaced.

So what is her motive if not political? Criminal justice or Civil justice? Self Healing or Revenge?

If her motive is criminal justice, why have this matter not been referred to the Maryland State Police? There is no statute of limitations, and if this was a criminal matter the jurisdiction would be theirs. why is there no civil suit where the burden of proof is much less?

The fact that no investigation exists at all speaks to this being politically motivated. in fact all the calls for a FBI investigation is nothing more than a stall tactic, since they would have NO jurisdiction (and consider their case closed) to postpone this appointment until after the fall elections in hopes that the Democrats will win enough seats to prevent this appointment.

If this was about healing, how will destroying Brett Kavanaughs career and family help her heal? Two wrongs doesnt make the first one right.

If this was about true justice, Criminal justice is about rehabilitation, not about punishment.
Lets assume the original allegation was true for a minute, the fact that 36 years later it has not occurred again, speaks that rehabilitation is not necessary, so again her motive must be punishment.

Only in the perverted mind of MeToo'ers where the witchhunt is about destroying men in a position of power or fame with nothing but accusations of innuendo and and public shame and not serious about actually preventing sexual assault would this be any sort of Justice. Of course we call that vigilante justice, or revenge.

If this is not political, why is her case being taken pro-bono by political activist attourney Deb Katz, whom is being funded by leftist fundraiser George Soros. Her polygraph test was also funded by this money.

The timing of her claims and the evidence CLEARLY shows her motive is purely political.

6)Relevance
Lets return to speculation again if these allegations were true and reported in 1982, then Kavanaugh was 17, and Ford was 15. This would have been handled in a Juvenile court, and all these records would be sealed, and Ford would be under a NDA order, and none of this would even be relevant to these hearings. in short a technical and legal error on her part has resulted in something being irrelevant and inadmissible, to being front and center character assassination purely from political motive.

Furthermore if this is a "job interview" as some democrats suggest, then employment laws forbid defamatory statements from job references, and therefore none of her testimony would again be relevant or admissible.

Furthermore, if this allegation would impair Kavanaughs ability to serve in the courts, then why wasnt this information disclosed years ago when he appointed to federal circuit courts?Why wasnt he removed years ago?

His years of service proves this allegation true or not, do not impair his ability to perform the job. he has an impeccable judicial record, and has been recommended by the bar for this position.


The other 2 accusers which have come forward are so non credible, that they are not even worthy of discussion, and thus I will end here.
if you believe Dr Ford, you need to have your head examined.

 

[Zstream]

You don't seem to be able to follow along. Try again and get back to us when you have a clue what's being discussed.

Yep, figured. Go circlejerk it with your team. I’m sure you’ll feel better.

 

[ivwshane]

Lol please tell me you cut and pasted that and you didn't actually spend your time writing that out.