What Kavanaugh documents are you referring? You don’t need any documents from either party to have the FBI to investigate.
Again, go spin this in your circle, maybe you guys get a high off of it.
The timing matters because of intent!
Yep, figured. Go circlejerk it with your team. I’m sure you’ll feel better.
Anyone who still believes Ford is credible needs to either examine the evidence more, or have their head examined.
1)Her story is incomplete, inconclusive, and factually useless.
Despite all her testimony about "Memory", She cannot remember the year, the date, the time, what grade she was in, when the assault took place. She cannot remember where the assault took place. Couldnt remember the house, the street, who owned the house, how she got there or how she got home, and couldnt remember anything other than it was about 20 minutes from her parents house in Maryland.
Her memory of the events was so bad, she called her friends to assist her in remembering the details of what happened that she had long forgotten.
Despite non memory of anything else, the one positive thing she is sure of is that it is Brett Kavanaugh.
In the past 2 weeks, the senate has interviewed 2 individuals each twice, who have come forward with detailed, specific, and credible information, that they might be the person(s) responsible for Fords assault, and that this is a case of mistaken identity.
2)Her story is inconsistent and shifting overtime.
If she affirmed that she never told ANYONE of what happened, including her mom or her best friend, then how could she call on her friends to help her recall her memory? Furthermore, if she never told anyone, then why did witness and friend of the victim, Christina King come forward and claim that it was the talk of school for days after the occurrence?
Then there is the question of shifting age. she told her therapist in 2012 she was in her "late teens", but in her polygraph testimony she said she was 15 at the time. 15 is NOT late teens.
The story of who was present at the party and in the room has changed at least 3 times. First it was told to her therapist it was herself and 4 boys (Kavanaugh, Judge, PJ, and one unnamed she couldnt remember), all of whom were in the room. Then the story shifted to there were 5 others at the party, including the 4 mentioned above and including a new witness her lifelong friend Leland Ingham Keyser, and this time the only 2 in the room were Kavanaugh and Mark Judge. The story again shifted that there were those 5 at the party and at least a few more girls.
she told Congress that she did not want to come testify before them because she was afraid to fly. Congress offered to come to her for her testimony AND her records prove that she flies frequently including trips to Hawaii, French Polynesia, and Costa Rica.
3)Corroborating evidence
All 4 people Ford named at the party, including her own lifelong friend and witness, denied that the party ever took place. Keyser also testified that she never attended a party where he was present.
4)Other skeptical information
In 2012 she never named the person who performed the rape, in fact his name never surfaced until 2016.
In an interview with the Washington Post, Ford said she was very upset that Brett Kavanaugh was on Donald Trumps Supreme Court possible appointee list. Unfortunately Kavanaugh was never on that list in 2016.
5)Motive
Why wait 36 years to come forward? What is her motive? To me although she asserts her motive is purely nonpolitical, it can't be anything but. The fact that her motive is purely political weighs heavily against her credibility. She is a known political activist. People ask what does she gain from this? Easy, the defeat of a political enemy seen as a misogynist and a threat to abortion rights.
Lets speculate for a minute...If Kavanaugh was not appointed to the supreme court, this allegation would have never have surfaced.
So what is her motive if not political? Criminal justice or Civil justice? Self Healing or Revenge?
If her motive is criminal justice, why have this matter not been referred to the Maryland State Police? There is no statute of limitations, and if this was a criminal matter the jurisdiction would be theirs. why is there no civil suit where the burden of proof is much less?
The fact that no investigation exists at all speaks to this being politically motivated. in fact all the calls for a FBI investigation is nothing more than a stall tactic, since they would have NO jurisdiction (and consider their case closed) to postpone this appointment until after the fall elections in hopes that the Democrats will win enough seats to prevent this appointment.
If this was about healing, how will destroying Brett Kavanaughs career and family help her heal? Two wrongs doesnt make the first one right.
If this was about true justice, Criminal justice is about rehabilitation, not about punishment.
Lets assume the original allegation was true for a minute, the fact that 36 years later it has not occurred again, speaks that rehabilitation is not necessary, so again her motive must be punishment.
Only in the perverted mind of MeToo'ers where the witchhunt is about destroying men in a position of power or fame with nothing but accusations of innuendo and and public shame and not serious about actually preventing sexual assault would this be any sort of Justice. Of course we call that vigilante justice, or revenge.
If this is not political, why is her case being taken pro-bono by political activist attourney Deb Katz, whom is being funded by leftist fundraiser George Soros. Her polygraph test was also funded by this money.
The timing of her claims and the evidence CLEARLY shows her motive is purely political.
6)Relevance
Lets return to speculation again if these allegations were true and reported in 1982, then Kavanaugh was 17, and Ford was 15. This would have been handled in a Juvenile court, and all these records would be sealed, and Ford would be under a NDA order, and none of this would even be relevant to these hearings. in short a technical and legal error on her part has resulted in something being irrelevant and inadmissible, to being front and center character assassination purely from political motive.
Furthermore if this is a "job interview" as some democrats suggest, then employment laws forbid defamatory statements from job references, and therefore none of her testimony would again be relevant or admissible.
Furthermore, if this allegation would impair Kavanaughs ability to serve in the courts, then why wasnt this information disclosed years ago when he appointed to federal circuit courts?Why wasnt he removed years ago?
His years of service proves this allegation true or not, do not impair his ability to perform the job. he has an impeccable judicial record, and has been recommended by the bar for this position.
The other 2 accusers which have come forward are so non credible, that they are not even worthy of discussion, and thus I will end here.
if you believe Dr Ford, you need to have your head examined.
See, you’re an idiot. You think this precedent by the Democrats will go unnoticed? You would cut off your nose, to spite your face.
Anyone who still believes Ford is credible needs to either examine the evidence more, or have their head examined.
1)Her story is incomplete, inconclusive, and factually useless.
Despite all her testimony about "Memory", She cannot remember the year, the date, the time, what grade she was in, when the assault took place. She cannot remember where the assault took place. Couldnt remember the house, the street, who owned the house, how she got there or how she got home, and couldnt remember anything other than it was about 20 minutes from her parents house in Maryland.
Her memory of the events was so bad, she called her friends to assist her in remembering the details of what happened that she had long forgotten.
Despite non memory of anything else, the one positive thing she is sure of is that it is Brett Kavanaugh.
In the past 2 weeks, the senate has interviewed 2 individuals each twice, who have come forward with detailed, specific, and credible information, that they might be the person(s) responsible for Fords assault, and that this is a case of mistaken identity.
2)Her story is inconsistent and shifting overtime.
If she affirmed that she never told ANYONE of what happened, including her mom or her best friend, then how could she call on her friends to help her recall her memory? Furthermore, if she never told anyone, then why did witness and friend of the victim, Christina King come forward and claim that it was the talk of school for days after the occurrence?
Then there is the question of shifting age. she told her therapist in 2012 she was in her "late teens", but in her polygraph testimony she said she was 15 at the time. 15 is NOT late teens.
The story of who was present at the party and in the room has changed at least 3 times. First it was told to her therapist it was herself and 4 boys (Kavanaugh, Judge, PJ, and one unnamed she couldnt remember), all of whom were in the room. Then the story shifted to there were 5 others at the party, including the 4 mentioned above and including a new witness her lifelong friend Leland Ingham Keyser, and this time the only 2 in the room were Kavanaugh and Mark Judge. The story again shifted that there were those 5 at the party and at least a few more girls.
she told Congress that she did not want to come testify before them because she was afraid to fly. Congress offered to come to her for her testimony AND her records prove that she flies frequently including trips to Hawaii, French Polynesia, and Costa Rica.
3)Corroborating evidence
All 4 people Ford named at the party, including her own lifelong friend and witness, denied that the party ever took place. Keyser also testified that she never attended a party where he was present.
4)Other skeptical information
In 2012 she never named the person who performed the rape, in fact his name never surfaced until 2016.
In an interview with the Washington Post, Ford said she was very upset that Brett Kavanaugh was on Donald Trumps Supreme Court possible appointee list. Unfortunately Kavanaugh was never on that list in 2016.
5)Motive
Why wait 36 years to come forward? What is her motive? To me although she asserts her motive is purely nonpolitical, it can't be anything but. The fact that her motive is purely political weighs heavily against her credibility. She is a known political activist. People ask what does she gain from this? Easy, the defeat of a political enemy seen as a misogynist and a threat to abortion rights.
Lets speculate for a minute...If Kavanaugh was not appointed to the supreme court, this allegation would have never have surfaced.
So what is her motive if not political? Criminal justice or Civil justice? Self Healing or Revenge?
If her motive is criminal justice, why have this matter not been referred to the Maryland State Police? There is no statute of limitations, and if this was a criminal matter the jurisdiction would be theirs. why is there no civil suit where the burden of proof is much less?
The fact that no investigation exists at all speaks to this being politically motivated. in fact all the calls for a FBI investigation is nothing more than a stall tactic, since they would have NO jurisdiction (and consider their case closed) to postpone this appointment until after the fall elections in hopes that the Democrats will win enough seats to prevent this appointment.
If this was about healing, how will destroying Brett Kavanaughs career and family help her heal? Two wrongs doesnt make the first one right.
If this was about true justice, Criminal justice is about rehabilitation, not about punishment.
Lets assume the original allegation was true for a minute, the fact that 36 years later it has not occurred again, speaks that rehabilitation is not necessary, so again her motive must be punishment.
Only in the perverted mind of MeToo'ers where the witchhunt is about destroying men in a position of power or fame with nothing but accusations of innuendo and and public shame and not serious about actually preventing sexual assault would this be any sort of Justice. Of course we call that vigilante justice, or revenge.
If this is not political, why is her case being taken pro-bono by political activist attourney Deb Katz, whom is being funded by leftist fundraiser George Soros. Her polygraph test was also funded by this money.
The timing of her claims and the evidence CLEARLY shows her motive is purely political.
6)Relevance
Lets return to speculation again if these allegations were true and reported in 1982, then Kavanaugh was 17, and Ford was 15. This would have been handled in a Juvenile court, and all these records would be sealed, and Ford would be under a NDA order, and none of this would even be relevant to these hearings. in short a technical and legal error on her part has resulted in something being irrelevant and inadmissible, to being front and center character assassination purely from political motive.
Furthermore if this is a "job interview" as some democrats suggest, then employment laws forbid defamatory statements from job references, and therefore none of her testimony would again be relevant or admissible.
Furthermore, if this allegation would impair Kavanaughs ability to serve in the courts, then why wasnt this information disclosed years ago when he appointed to federal circuit courts?Why wasnt he removed years ago?
His years of service proves this allegation true or not, do not impair his ability to perform the job. he has an impeccable judicial record, and has been recommended by the bar for this position.
The other 2 accusers which have come forward are so non credible, that they are not even worthy of discussion, and thus I will end here.
if you believe Dr Ford, you need to have your head examined.
Anyone who still believes Ford is credible needs to either examine the evidence more, or have their head examined.
1)Her story is incomplete, inconclusive, and factually useless.
Despite all her testimony about "Memory", She cannot remember the year, the date, the time, what grade she was in, when the assault took place. She cannot remember where the assault took place. Couldnt remember the house, the street, who owned the house, how she got there or how she got home, and couldnt remember anything other than it was about 20 minutes from her parents house in Maryland.
Her memory of the events was so bad, she called her friends to assist her in remembering the details of what happened that she had long forgotten.
Despite non memory of anything else, the one positive thing she is sure of is that it is Brett Kavanaugh.
In the past 2 weeks, the senate has interviewed 2 individuals each twice, who have come forward with detailed, specific, and credible information, that they might be the person(s) responsible for Fords assault, and that this is a case of mistaken identity.
2)Her story is inconsistent and shifting overtime.
If she affirmed that she never told ANYONE of what happened, including her mom or her best friend, then how could she call on her friends to help her recall her memory? Furthermore, if she never told anyone, then why did witness and friend of the victim, Christina King come forward and claim that it was the talk of school for days after the occurrence?
Then there is the question of shifting age. she told her therapist in 2012 she was in her "late teens", but in her polygraph testimony she said she was 15 at the time. 15 is NOT late teens.
The story of who was present at the party and in the room has changed at least 3 times. First it was told to her therapist it was herself and 4 boys (Kavanaugh, Judge, PJ, and one unnamed she couldnt remember), all of whom were in the room. Then the story shifted to there were 5 others at the party, including the 4 mentioned above and including a new witness her lifelong friend Leland Ingham Keyser, and this time the only 2 in the room were Kavanaugh and Mark Judge. The story again shifted that there were those 5 at the party and at least a few more girls.
she told Congress that she did not want to come testify before them because she was afraid to fly. Congress offered to come to her for her testimony AND her records prove that she flies frequently including trips to Hawaii, French Polynesia, and Costa Rica.
3)Corroborating evidence
All 4 people Ford named at the party, including her own lifelong friend and witness, denied that the party ever took place. Keyser also testified that she never attended a party where he was present.
4)Other skeptical information
In 2012 she never named the person who performed the rape, in fact his name never surfaced until 2016.
In an interview with the Washington Post, Ford said she was very upset that Brett Kavanaugh was on Donald Trumps Supreme Court possible appointee list. Unfortunately Kavanaugh was never on that list in 2016.
5)Motive
Why wait 36 years to come forward? What is her motive? To me although she asserts her motive is purely nonpolitical, it can't be anything but. The fact that her motive is purely political weighs heavily against her credibility. She is a known political activist. People ask what does she gain from this? Easy, the defeat of a political enemy seen as a misogynist and a threat to abortion rights.
Lets speculate for a minute...If Kavanaugh was not appointed to the supreme court, this allegation would have never have surfaced.
So what is her motive if not political? Criminal justice or Civil justice? Self Healing or Revenge?
If her motive is criminal justice, why have this matter not been referred to the Maryland State Police? There is no statute of limitations, and if this was a criminal matter the jurisdiction would be theirs. why is there no civil suit where the burden of proof is much less?
The fact that no investigation exists at all speaks to this being politically motivated. in fact all the calls for a FBI investigation is nothing more than a stall tactic, since they would have NO jurisdiction (and consider their case closed) to postpone this appointment until after the fall elections in hopes that the Democrats will win enough seats to prevent this appointment.
If this was about healing, how will destroying Brett Kavanaughs career and family help her heal? Two wrongs doesnt make the first one right.
If this was about true justice, Criminal justice is about rehabilitation, not about punishment.
Lets assume the original allegation was true for a minute, the fact that 36 years later it has not occurred again, speaks that rehabilitation is not necessary, so again her motive must be punishment.
Only in the perverted mind of MeToo'ers where the witchhunt is about destroying men in a position of power or fame with nothing but accusations of innuendo and and public shame and not serious about actually preventing sexual assault would this be any sort of Justice. Of course we call that vigilante justice, or revenge.
If this is not political, why is her case being taken pro-bono by political activist attourney Deb Katz, whom is being funded by leftist fundraiser George Soros. Her polygraph test was also funded by this money.
The timing of her claims and the evidence CLEARLY shows her motive is purely political.
6)Relevance
Lets return to speculation again if these allegations were true and reported in 1982, then Kavanaugh was 17, and Ford was 15. This would have been handled in a Juvenile court, and all these records would be sealed, and Ford would be under a NDA order, and none of this would even be relevant to these hearings. in short a technical and legal error on her part has resulted in something being irrelevant and inadmissible, to being front and center character assassination purely from political motive.
Furthermore if this is a "job interview" as some democrats suggest, then employment laws forbid defamatory statements from job references, and therefore none of her testimony would again be relevant or admissible.
Furthermore, if this allegation would impair Kavanaughs ability to serve in the courts, then why wasnt this information disclosed years ago when he appointed to federal circuit courts?Why wasnt he removed years ago?
His years of service proves this allegation true or not, do not impair his ability to perform the job. he has an impeccable judicial record, and has been recommended by the bar for this position.
The other 2 accusers which have come forward are so non credible, that they are not even worthy of discussion, and thus I will end here.
if you believe Dr Ford, you need to have your head examined.
You don't sound very convincing as the libertarian you claim to be, you sound like an extreme right-wing youtube viewer.Good luck with convincing anyone. This will be the new standard and a huge negative for the republic. I fear for my family, and friends, as this is leading to a civil war.
Democrats think they have a win, Republicans have a short term loss, but in the end, the same tactic used today, will be used by both parties now.
The people on this board are way to partisan to even debate with. You get nowhere, and they get pats on their back from “the good side”.
Good luck with convincing anyone. This will be the new standard and a huge negative for the republic. I fear for my family, and friends, as this is leading to a civil war.
Democrats think they have a win, Republicans have a short term loss, but in the end, the same tactic used today, will be used by both parties now.
The people on this board are way to partisan to even debate with. You get nowhere, and they get pats on their back from “the good side”.
You don't sound very convincing as the libertarian you claim to be, you sound like an extreme right-wing youtube viewer.
Lol please tell me you cut and pasted that and you didn't actually spend your time writing that out.
I figured Flake was a yes after his performance in the hearing, besides it's in his last name.
This could have been a great weekend for Chris Farley.This guy drunk must be unbelievable!
So, the Tucker Carlson defense? You didn't find his opening statement disturbing with the conspiracies and all?Not that anyone will change their minds but for what its worth here is my take after watching the entire session
Dr Ford was very credible and told a story she firmly believed was true.
Judge Kavanaugh was very credible and told a story he believed to be true.
Both testified under oath.
So for me, what has to be the deciding factor in this hearing? I believe, even more than yesterday, something happened to Dr Ford but whatever that was, it did not involve Judge Kavanaugh. The primary reason for my conclusion is there simply was no contemporary corroborating evidence Dr Ford could provide today.
No doubt, Dr Ford absolutely believes Judge Kavanaugh assaulted her. I believe she believes that. But the contemporary witnesses she provided have all under oath denied knowledge of the incident.
When all this first came out, Kavanaugh should have set aside personal ambition, declared his innocence & withdrawn. He could have sacrificed that ambition for the good of the Country & he could frame it in a way to make himself look good.
How did he ever become so entitled as to put the Country through this? Who the fuck does he think he is?
He was crying like the entitled snowflake he is, you missed it.Man, just looking at video of Kav-bro's face... He was completely losing his shit. OMG.
Looked like he was about to anger cry
He should try and smile more
You seem mad?I didn’t vote, thought you would know that. I can’t stand how this republic is being torn apart by a bunch of idiots on both sides, including yourself. The intellectual dishonesty is overwhelming, and ruins discussion on this board.
How fucking hard is it to nominate and confirm someone who is a patriot and isn't a fucking pervert / rapist / neo nazi in this day and age?
Judge Kavanaugh was very credible and told a story he believed to be true.
He's now an official Trumper. That's who he is. They consider this normal. They all hate it, but it's all their fault.
Fuck the Trumpers. Fuck them all to hell.
It's pretty easy. You only need to nominate and confirm Bret Kavanaugh.