Yeah, I'd like to see what path Democrats have to take the House, impeach, and not have it overturned in the Senate.
Not that anyone will change their minds but for what its worth here is my take after watching the entire session
Dr Ford was very credible and told a story she firmly believed was true.
Judge Kavanaugh was very credible and told a story he believed to be true.
Both testified under oath.
So for me, what has to be the deciding factor in this hearing? I believe, even more than yesterday, something happened to Dr Ford but whatever that was, it did not involve Judge Kavanaugh. The primary reason for my conclusion is there simply was no contemporary corroborating evidence Dr Ford could provide today.
No doubt, Dr Ford absolutely believes Judge Kavanaugh assaulted her. I believe she believes that. But the contemporary witnesses she provided have all under oath denied knowledge of the incident.
IMO to your bolded question - that is simply a matter of partisanship.
Republicans want to hurry and push him through ASAP to make sure mid-terms don't interfere.
Democrats want to slow as much as possible to try and make sure the mid-terms come before he is on the SCOTUS.
It's really that simple. I don't think an FBI investigation is a 2 day process - just look at how long the Russia investigation is taking. Furthermore, even if he did agree to it Democrats would continue to try to drag things as much as possible.
Again - just my honest opinion, I'm not in favor of Kavanaugh anyhow.
IMO to your bolded question - that is simply a matter of partisanship.
Republicans want to hurry and push him through ASAP to make sure mid-terms don't interfere.
Democrats want to slow as much as possible to try and make sure the mid-terms come before he is on the SCOTUS.
It's really that simple. I don't think an FBI investigation is a 2 day process - just look at how long the Russia investigation is taking. Furthermore, even if he did agree to it Democrats would continue to try to drag things as much as possible.
Again - just my honest opinion, I'm not in favor of Kavanaugh anyhow.
On this we can agree. There were many ways for Kavanaugh to handle this and he chose the path that demonstrates why he is unsuitable for the role. Even ignoring the allegations, there was nothing inspired about his performance in any of the hearings.
Agreed. "We'll impeach him later" is bullshit. After the shit show Kavanaugh put on today none of the rest of it matters. He's unfit to serve.
This isn't a court of law. Nominations for the Supreme Court live and die in the court of public opinion.
I'd love to know Kavanaugh's polling numbers after today.
"INNOCENT until PROVEN guilty", that's for a criminal trial, not for a job interview. What part of this don't you understand?Innocent until PROVEN guilty. All we've heard are wild accusations without any shred of evidence.
Why wait 36 years? He was an important person before as well, he got higher and higher in the judiciary every 5 or so years it seems, ever since the Bush era he has been climbing up and fast, why not reveal things back then?
Her story also changed so much, first she could only remember it in a session with a therapist in 2012, now she is saying she told her husband years before, so which one is it? did she have no recollection till 2012 or did she always had this memory? If she did have it even before 2012, why not say anything back then?
If she had it after why not saying anything? she's had 36 years to say something, why exactly now?
And again,. But we won't be able to find out if its true or not ever, because she waited 36 years and no evidence exists now, even if it potentially existed. So all she is doing smearing his name and preventing the nomination.
I feel like ultimately Trump should say fuck you do all the democrats and nominate a different candidate as a fuck you to all of them and have it expedited and done quickly and swiftly. They can't pay off enough people and quickly enough to be able to smear every single judicial candidate he nominates.
Trumo should step up though, he should order the FBI, CIA, NSA, Pentagon, Army intelligence to find the money links to these democratic party operatives, massive investigations into the money links and find out that its George Soros, Warren Buffett, David Rockefeller, Rothschilds, Clinton crime family, etc... that subvert US democracy, NOT Russia, NOT anyone else!
I know right? the rapist and alcoholic compulsive liar should have thought better. I mean, it was HIS TIME! And he blew it. what a moron. Folks like him deserve this kind of seat on the SCOTUS...they were told their whole lives that they were BORN into it--rape and drink all you want throughout your life, just bury the evidence and the people...and we'll hook you up!
but the fool just couldn't contain himself. He couldn't be a proper "gentle" witness in the defense of his own rapey alcoholic rage-fueled history.
Poor guy, his performance was so uninspiring!. He totally deserved that seat, but he just couldn't crack the easy test.
Appointments to the supreme court are NOT an election. The court of public opinion means absolutely ZIP ZERO NOTHING NADA.
Wow, some of you self righteous lefties sure can be assholes.
Oh my, Rockefeller too! You left him out your last dumb post.Trumo should step up though, he should order the FBI, CIA, NSA, Pentagon, Army intelligence to find the money links to these democratic party operatives, massive investigations into the money links and find out that its George Soros, Warren Buffett, David Rockefeller, Rothschilds, Clinton crime family, etc... that subvert US democracy, NOT Russia, NOT anyone else!
I don't see it that way.
The reopening of a background check on Clarence Thomas took less than a week. Why would it take longer? Why would Democrats drag this out after another investigation has been done?
You are simply pulling shit out of your ass.
It's tough when the GOP won't ask for an FBI investigation and hide 100,000 documents from viewing. It sure makes them/him look guilty.I'm all for kicking off kav - but I do think you guys are being a bit harsh with the guilty accusations on something with no evidence, no? Kinda just exemplifies partisanship. By all accounts, he has a decent track record IMO.
well, up until his performance today.
This isn't a background check - which was already performed on Kavanaugh just before this by the FBI. This is a separate investigation and gathering of facts, interviews, etc..
I'm not "pulling shit out of my ass" it's just my honest opinion of what they are going for. It lines up exactly with the fact that this was kept under wraps until right as the hearings were occurring. Perhaps I'm wrong - but at this point everyone is just giving their opinion.
I think the most favorable poll shows Dems with a 1 in 5 chance of taking the Senate. More likely it's a less than 10% chance due to polling bias. There is no point to delaying.
Finally able to catch-up after getting out of all-day meetings. Yeah, I agree Kav is acting a bit childish - Looks like his hormones aren't in balance heh.
Personally my conclusion is - I still continue to think the FBI investigation is an incredibly stupid and pointless idea - the entire concept is just to further delay things. As pointed out in the hearings - there is nothing the FBI can conclude. They cannot make an assertion. They cannot make a recommendation. It would be the equivalent of a parent in the middle with a he-said she-said argument. It's pointless and downright childish to demand such an investigation.
Democrats are childish too - She said she was 100% certain! That's all the proof you need! Is the equivalent of their statements. Likewise, Republicans might as well be giving a hand-y under the table to Kav with how blow-hard they are being as they just continue to blow wind up his skirt.
At this point with this piss poor performance just toss him out already and put up someone way better.
Yes it is you fucking retard!
https://www.npr.org/2018/09/20/6498...t-the-fbi-to-reopen-a-kavanaugh-investigationWhat has the FBI done so far?
The FBI conducted a background check on Kavanaugh as part of the White House's review process of vetting him for the Supreme Court. Over the course of his career in the federal government, he's undergone a total of six background checks.
However and with all due respect to Senator Graham while this maybe hell it was also a job interview. Kavanaugh, under pressure granted, did not display conduct becoming a Supreme Court justice. He was angry and lashing out widely and with huge partisan attacks unbecoming a judge whose goal was to remain impartial.
Strictly on that behavior alone he should be voted down.
Exactly. It's the Repubs who refuse to investigate.Which group has called for an investigation and which group has rejected an investigation?
Why is everytime someone mentions a globalist and they happen to be jews, you are anti semite? What am I for mentioning Warren Buffett then, anti white protestant men or David Rockefeller?Dude your country is being stolen from you. Fix your own shit.
Btw a nice bit of classic eastern European antisemitism there calling out Soros and the Rothschilds. Your country fought against nazis now you are not so slowly becoming them.