Kavanaugh SCOTUS Senate Judicial Hearing

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HomerJS

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I didn't have a chance to listen today have only seen clips but have a few observations.


Republicans hired a woman from 2000 miles away flew her in under the pretense they were trying to use a experienced sex crimes prosecutor to get to the truth. This experienced prosecutor was fired during her questioning of Kavanaugh. She was asking fact based questions so what was the problem?


He was completely evasive on questions about his drinking, in fact there was open hostility.


Dems were too deferential to him during his bouts of hostility. Dems should be told him to shut up, they ask the questions not him. He used that tactic when he didn't want to answer a question. I understand why they didn't.


Nobody took the tactic to attack his credibility by pointing out times during his confirmation process where he lied. His first statement after being nominated was a lie.
Question: "Is lying during your confirmation a disqualifier for approval"? Point out to him he said the following immediately after his nomination...
I have witnessed firsthand your appreciation for the vital role of the American judiciary. No president has ever consulted more widely or talked with more people from more backgrounds to seek input about a supreme court nomination.
Clearly that is a lie. Two reasons, BK would not take the time to research every President efforts in choosing a nominee. Second we all Trump does not immerse himself in tedious background work. He doesn't even read his own PDBs. You can call this a little thing but why tell an obvious lie during this process. How can you trust someone with big thing when they will lie about little things?


Did anyone ask him to submit to a polygraph? There are plenty of people who apply for high level jobs where this is required. Under the circumstances why can he take one? Ford's test was administered by an FBI agent so they could testify to its veracity.


Were there any questions where Ford seemed to be evasive? Did she avoid answering any question. Kavanaugh avoided many.
 

zinfamous

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This isn't a background check - which was already performed on Kavanaugh just before this by the FBI. This is a separate investigation and gathering of facts, interviews, etc..

I'm not "pulling shit out of my ass" it's just my honest opinion of what they are going for. It lines up exactly with the fact that this was kept under wraps until right as the hearings were occurring. Perhaps I'm wrong - but at this point everyone is just giving their opinion.

Problem is, the FBI background check prior to hearings...remains privileged WH information. WH can share it if they want....or not. Whatevs.

Anyway, I do love to hear the GOP constantly whine about their "inability to order investigations" that they have no power to authorize, on top of the fact that they have hundreds of thousands of documents provided to them by the FBI....that they just don't want to release. ....because.

 

zinfamous

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Demoretards are going to lose even harder in the elections. They are going to loose the house even harder and the senate by about the same amount. Face it libtards, 3/4 of US states are republican, libtards should be lucky you have 3 giant mega cities that push the numbers, but you are all in just a few cities like cattle for the slaughter.

AT filters are weak.

This Russian clown is so fucking obvious, lol.

The problem is that you barely recall history, and assume that you are the bolshevik.

The bolsheviks rebelled against people like you. So did the fascists in Spain and Italy in the 1920s. I don't want that, no liberal wants that, but you seem to depend on it.

You're the one that ends up dead and imprisoned, but you desperately pine for a bloody end to your ignorant mind-rebellion.

No one will remember you when you are worm food, comrade.
 
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I'm probably close to your age or older. I'm retired.
Me too, so you know that there wasn't even a word "google" in those days and that every parochial district had different terms for poofing.

"beans beans the magical fruit the more you eat the more you toot...............
 

ivwshane

Lifer
May 15, 2000
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I didn't have a chance to listen today have only seen clips but have a few observations.


Republicans hired a woman from 2000 miles away flew her in under the pretense they were trying to use a experienced sex crimes prosecutor to get to the truth. This experienced prosecutor was fired during her questioning of Kavanaugh. She was asking fact based questions so what was the problem?


He was completely evasive on questions about his drinking, in fact there was open hostility.


Dems were too deferential to him during his bouts of hostility. Dems should be told him to shut up, they ask the questions not him. He used that tactic when he didn't want to answer a question. I understand why they didn't.


Nobody took the tactic to attack his credibility by pointing out times during his confirmation process where he lied. His first statement after being nominated was a lie.
Question: "Is lying during your confirmation a disqualifier for approval"? Point out to him he said the following immediately after his nomination...

Clearly that is a lie. Two reasons, BK would not take the time to research every President efforts in choosing a nominee. Second we all Trump does not immerse himself in tedious background work. He doesn't even read his own PDBs. You can call this a little thing but why tell an obvious lie during this process. How can you trust someone with big thing when they will lie about little things?


Did anyone ask him to submit to a polygraph? There are plenty of people who apply for high level jobs where this is required. Under the circumstances why can he take one? Ford's test was administered by an FBI agent so they could testify to its veracity.


Were there any questions where Ford seemed to be evasive? Did she avoid answering any question. Kavanaugh avoided many.


They did ask him about taking a polygraph and I believe his answer was to the affect, "I'll do whatever the committee wants me to do". That was in addition to him saying that polygraphs aren't admissible in a court of law.

Ford answered every question pretty directly and was sure to clarify and ask if the prosecutor needed more from her.

Since you are re watching it have you noticed that the Republicans let the prosecutor ask her questions for ford and she started posing questions to kavanaugh until she was cut off and never heard from again.
 

HomerJS

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Remember the question about boofing ,there was an entry in Brett's yearbook that said have you Boofed? and Kavanaugh tried to say it was about farts, I think most people have farted by high school, correct? Turns out boofing means ingesting drugs or alcohol anally. This guy is a real piece of work.
Oh, another lie that can't be put up to cross?
 

Zorba

Lifer
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Remember the question about boofing ,there was an entry in Brett's yearbook that said have you Boofed? and Kavanaugh tried to say it was about farts, I think most people have farted by high school, correct? Turns out boofing means ingesting drugs or alcohol anally. This guy is a real piece of work.
He also said a devil's triangle was a drinking game with three cups in a triangle. Which, I guess if you are a rapist, maybe a devil's triangle is a drinking game...

I listened for about 10 minutes, and could tell everything out of his month was bullshit. Wasn't it just last night that he told Fox he didn't drink and never saw anyone else drink underage? Then today he said "I liked beer" a thousands times.
 

soundforbjt

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Me too, so you know that there wasn't even a word "google" in those days and that every parochial district had different terms for poofing.

"beans beans the magical fruit the more you eat the more you toot...............
So he asked Mark Judge in the yearbook if he had farted yet? get real...and it's boofing, not poofing
 
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He also said a devil's triangle was a drinking game with three cups in a triangle. Which, I guess if you are a rapist, maybe a devil's triangle is a drinking game...

I listened for about 10 minutes, and could tell everything out of his month was bullshit. Wasn't it just last night that he told Fox he didn't drink and never saw anyone else drink underage? Then today he said "I liked beer" a thousands times.
No he didn't. He told Fox he's never drank until he blacked out.
 

UNCjigga

Lifer
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Seriously? And for some reason you think your definition is not only right, but that he lied?

His own classmates at Georgetown Prep have said he was lying about "boof" and "devil's triangle". FWIW, the same classmates say he told the truth about "FFFFFFFourth of July"--it wasn't a reference to "fvck fondle" whatever, he really had a friend who stuttered a lot and made fun of him for it.

https://twitter.com/davidenrich/status/1045416955522535425?s=21

Oh hey look, someone at Congress tried to edit Wikipedia to hide Kavanaugh's perjury! That's just...sad...
 

HomerJS

Lifer
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They did ask him about taking a polygraph and I believe his answer was to the affect, "I'll do whatever the committee wants me to do". That was in addition to him saying that polygraphs aren't admissible in a court of law.

Ford answered every question pretty directly and was sure to clarify and ask if the prosecutor needed more from her.

Since you are re watching it have you noticed that the Republicans let the prosecutor ask her questions for ford and she started posing questions to kavanaugh until she was cut off and never heard from again.

As people have pointed out this is not a court but a job interview. Again, plenty of high level govt jobs where polygraphs are required.

Did you see the exchanges when he was questioned by Dems about his drinking? Go back and watch exchange between him and Amy Klobuchar. Tell me if you think that was answering directly?
 
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Gosh an anonymous Tweet, now i'm convinced!

His own classmates at Georgetown Prep have said he was lying about "boof" and "devil's triangle". FWIW, the same classmates say he told the truth about "FFFFFFFourth of July"--it wasn't a reference to "fvck fondle" whatever, he really had a friend who stuttered a lot and made fun of him for it.

https://twitter.com/davidenrich/status/1045416955522535425?s=21

Oh hey look, someone at Congress tried to edit Wikipedia to hide Kavanaugh's perjury! That's just...sad...
 

ivwshane

Lifer
May 15, 2000
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As people have pointed out this is not a court but a job interview. Again, plenty of high level govt jobs where polygraphs are required.

Did you see the exchanges when he was questioned by Dems about his drinking? Go back and watch exchange between him and Amy Klobuchar. Tell me if you think that was answering directly?

It wasn't and for a future supreme court judge it was pretty disrespectful and uncalled for, which is why he probably apologized for it later.
 

Maxima1

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As people have pointed out this is not a court but a job interview. Again, plenty of high level govt jobs where polygraphs are required.

Did you see the exchanges when he was questioned by Dems about his drinking? Go back and watch exchange between him and Amy Klobuchar. Tell me if you think that was answering directly?

One additional thing about Kavanaugh's polygraph answer.

Brett Kavanaugh Once Said Polygraphs Are A Good Tool. Now He Says They’re Unreliable.
Polygraphs are terrible indicators of truthfulness — but the Supreme Court nominee can’t have it both ways.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entr...stine-blasey-ford_us_5bad52cbe4b0425e3c21f60a
 
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