Kavanaugh SCOTUS Senate Judicial Hearing

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dank69

Lifer
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You just moved the goalpost. The dems are shouting for a FBI investigation and now that they have one it will not be valid unless they find actual evidence against Kavanaugh, right?
Do you think it is reasonable to expect the FBI to be able to interview everyone necessary in one week?
 

IronWing

No Lifer
Jul 20, 2001
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You just moved the goalpost. The dems are shouting for a FBI investigation and now that they have one it will not be valid unless they find actual evidence against Kavanaugh, right?
Why is there a purely arbitrary deadline of one week to complete an investigation? What do the Republicans want to stay hidden? Where are the 100k pages of documents the Republicans are hiding?
 

mect

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You just moved the goalpost. The dems are shouting for a FBI investigation and now that they have one it will not be valid unless they find actual evidence against Kavanaugh, right?
I am a little surprised they need an investigation. Kavanaugh already proved at the very least he's an entitled POS that lies on a whim to try to protect what he perceives as a flawless reputation. And at worst, a sex offender. He shouldn't be anywhere near the supreme court.
 

Maxima1

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They've filed a complaint for Merrick Garland to review the perjury allegations. I think they call that karma. With the FBI investigation, he has exposure to not only potential sexual crimes, but also facts supporting some of the perjury allegations. With a week of time, the perjury allegations may be the biggest danger he's facing.
 

Jhhnn

IN MEMORIAM
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You just moved the goalpost. The dems are shouting for a FBI investigation and now that they have one it will not be valid unless they find actual evidence against Kavanaugh, right?
Kavanaugh showed us that he's unfit yesterday. Investigating until Hell freezes over won't change that.
 

Lanyap

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Do you think it is reasonable to expect the FBI to be able to interview everyone necessary in one week?


The FBI has a lot of agents and they already have a lot names already. How long do you think it should take - one month, two months, six months?
 

dank69

Lifer
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The FBI has a lot of agents and they already have a lot names already. How long do you think it should take - one month, two months, six months?
Do you really think one week is enough time to schedule interviews with everyone that needs to be interviewed? Do you think it is enough time to even track them all down?
 

Maxima1

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The FBI has a lot of agents and they already have a lot names already. How long do you think it should take - one month, two months, six months?

They'll definitely need to revisit what they've said. Just two weeks is doubling the amount of time.
 

Lanyap

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Why is there a purely arbitrary deadline of one week to complete an investigation? What do the Republicans want to stay hidden? Where are the 100k pages of documents the Republicans are hiding?


The Thomas/Hill FBI investigation only took 3 days. What arbitrary length of time do you think the FBI investigation should take? You realize no amount of time is going to placate the dems.

Personally, I thought they should have started an FBI investigation weeks ago. It still would not have been enough for the dems though.
 

PlanetJosh

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Hate to go conspiracy theory again but according to the web Jeff Flake is not independently wealthy, not rich. So is there a big book deal at the end of the rainbow for him? Meaning he can wait a few years, after he's out of government then write the book for big bucks.
 

Maxima1

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The Thomas/Hill FBI investigation only took 3 days. What arbitrary length of time do you think the FBI investigation should take? You realize no amount of time is going to placate the dems.

The Democrats had already suggested a week during the hearing. Again, just doubling is two weeks. That's still before the midterms. If you think it's going to be so short and not cutting it close, then why does the amount of time even need to be specified? The FBI would get done when it's done.
 

emperus

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Listen to this interview from a Republican Yale classmate and tell me it doesn't hit the same themes from every other women who has spoken out.
 
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compuwiz1

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Kavanaugh showed us that he's unfit yesterday. Investigating until Hell freezes over won't change that.

No, he showed your side he is unfit, as any Republican pick would be, in your eyes. Here is what I believe:
If Kavanaugh would have been the first pick for the SCOTUS, he'd have sailed through with the same ease as Gorsuch. One? Yeah, the Dems and the left could live with that. Two? Oh hell no! If Gorsuch had been pick two, he'd have had scandals flying out of the woodwork too. Pick three, if it happens? Burn it down! What are you guys gonna do, if Trump is reelected and RBG retires or dies? I suspect it won't be pretty! lol
 
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dphantom

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No, he showed your side he is unfit, as any Republican pick would be, in your eyes. Here is what I believe:
If Kavanaugh would have been the first pick for the SCOTUS, he'd have sailed through with the same ease as Gorsuch. One? Yeah, the Dems and the left could live with that. Two? Oh hell no! If Gorsuch had been pick two, he'd have had scandals flying out of the woodwork too. Pick three, if it happens? Burn it down! What are you guys gonna do, if Trump is reelected and RBG retires or dies? I suspect it won't be pretty! lol
speak to truth buddy, speak to truth.
 

K1052

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No, he showed your side he is unfit, as any Republican pick would be, in your eyes. Here is what I believe:
If Kavanaugh would have been the first pick for the SCOTUS, he'd have sailed through with the same ease as Gorsuch. One? Yeah, the Dems and the left could live with that. Two? Oh hell no! If Gorsuch had been pick two, he'd have had scandals flying out of the woodwork too. Pick three, if it happens? Burn it down! What are you guys gonna do, if Trump is reelected and RBG retires or dies? I suspect it won't be pretty! lol

Kavanaugh was very much on the glide path to confirmation until the allegation surfaced. On pace to pick up 4-5 red state Dem votes too.

This did not happen with Gorsuch as opposed as Democrats were to him.
 

K1052

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Hate to go conspiracy theory again but according to the web Jeff Flake is not independently wealthy, not rich. So is there a big book deal at the end of the rainbow for him? Meaning he can wait a few years, after he's out of government then write the book for big bucks.

Maybe he tripped into actually defending some of his principles with action. It happens.

He wrote a book not too long ago and I don't think it was a huge seller.
 

fskimospy

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No, he showed your side he is unfit, as any Republican pick would be, in your eyes. Here is what I believe:
If Kavanaugh would have been the first pick for the SCOTUS, he'd have sailed through with the same ease as Gorsuch. One? Yeah, the Dems and the left could live with that. Two? Oh hell no! If Gorsuch had been pick two, he'd have had scandals flying out of the woodwork too. Pick three, if it happens? Burn it down! What are you guys gonna do, if Trump is reelected and RBG retires or dies? I suspect it won't be pretty! lol

Can you explain why the second pick is magically bad? Based on that, why wasn’t Alito buried under sex scandals? He was the second pick, after all.

It’s weird how you guys invent conspiracy theories where you’re endlessly persecuted. Why do you think that is?
 

Paratus

Lifer
Jun 4, 2004
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No, he showed your side he is unfit, as any Republican pick would be, in your eyes. Here is what I believe:
If Kavanaugh would have been the first pick for the SCOTUS, he'd have sailed through with the same ease as Gorsuch. One? Yeah, the Dems and the left could live with that. Two? Oh hell no! If Gorsuch had been pick two, he'd have had scandals flying out of the woodwork too. Pick three, if it happens? Burn it down! What are you guys gonna do, if Trump is reelected and RBG retires or dies? I suspect it won't be pretty! lol

That’s because you are a republican first and American a distant second. You rationalize it by believing being republican is the best thing for America so as long at that “R” is next to their name you don’t care if they are incompetent or criminal.

Contrary to popular conservative belief on this forum we don’t expect you to nominate a liberal but maybe you could demand your party nominates judges actually suited for the job.
 
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Jhhnn

IN MEMORIAM
Nov 11, 1999
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No, he showed your side he is unfit, as any Republican pick would be, in your eyes. Here is what I believe:
If Kavanaugh would have been the first pick for the SCOTUS, he'd have sailed through with the same ease as Gorsuch. One? Yeah, the Dems and the left could live with that. Two? Oh hell no! If Gorsuch had been pick two, he'd have had scandals flying out of the woodwork too. Pick three, if it happens? Burn it down! What are you guys gonna do, if Trump is reelected and RBG retires or dies? I suspect it won't be pretty! lol

"If" doesn't reference current reality at all.

His performance on Thursday, responding to accusations of sexual misconduct at a hearing of the same Senate committee, sent a different message. Judge Kavanaugh was angry and emotional, embracing the language of slashing partisanship. His demeanor raised questions about his neutrality and temperament and whether the already fragile reputation of the Supreme Court as an institution devoted to law rather than politics would be threatened if he is confirmed

“This whole two-week effort has been a calculated and orchestrated political hit,” he said, “fueled with apparent pent-up anger about President Trump and the 2016 election, fear that has been unfairly stoked about my judicial record, revenge on behalf of the Clintons and millions of dollars in money from outside left-wing opposition groups.”

The charged language recalled Judge Kavanaugh’s years as a partisan Republican, working for Ken Starr, the independent counsel who investigated a series of scandals involving Bill and Hillary Clinton, and serving as an aide in the administration of George W. Bush. It was less consistent with the detached judicial temperament that lawyers associate with an ideal judge.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/28/us/politics/kavanaugh-testimony-supreme-court.html

Obviously not a fierce political partisan. Couldn't be.
 

UNCjigga

Lifer
Dec 12, 2000
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No, he showed your side he is unfit, as any Republican pick would be, in your eyes. Here is what I believe:
If Kavanaugh would have been the first pick for the SCOTUS, he'd have sailed through with the same ease as Gorsuch. One? Yeah, the Dems and the left could live with that. Two? Oh hell no! If Gorsuch had been pick two, he'd have had scandals flying out of the woodwork too. Pick three, if it happens? Burn it down! What are you guys gonna do, if Trump is reelected and RBG retires or dies? I suspect it won't be pretty! lol

I'd say Gorsuch looks like Thurgood Marshall compared to that carnival barker Kavanaugh.
 

jackstar7

Lifer
Jun 26, 2009
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It's a highly conservative institution and some decisions made by Wray/Bowdich make me think they're doing a balancing act of sorts. Donnie's FBI ignored a disciplinary recommendation by firing Strzok. There's some other strange things like how we still don't have a report on the shenanigans in 2016.
Those seem like reasonable concerns. I do wonder if they might be motivated to stick it to Trump at this point due to all of his outlandish statements against their integrity.
 

Lanyap

Elite Member
Dec 23, 2000
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The Democrats had already suggested a week during the hearing. Again, just doubling is two weeks. That's still before the midterms. If you think it's going to be so short and not cutting it close, then why does the amount of time even need to be specified? The FBI would get done when it's done.


I don't believe the time frame makes a difference. If the investigation comes back unsubstantiated, which most believe it will, then the dems will still find a reason to block him.
 

IronWing

No Lifer
Jul 20, 2001
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I don't believe the time frame makes a difference. If the investigation comes back unsubstantiated, which most believe it will, then the dems will still find a reason to block him.
They already have a reason: Kavanaugh is not fit to serve on the Supreme Court. His own words and actions demonstrate that he is a party hack lacking judicial temperament. He pursued the Vince Foster nuttiness with a gem-like flame.
 
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