Kavanaugh SCOTUS Senate Judicial Hearing

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Jhhnn

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No one is more of a party have than most in this thread.

None of us will ever have the opportunity to lie our way onto the Supreme Court. Which is what we're talking about, isn't it?

These accusations brought out some unintended consequences of honesty for Kavanaugh. He revealed himself to be the partisan hack he pretended not to be all during the hearings.
 

Guru

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We're not talking about a criminal trial. If your wife comes home and find you in bed with the maid she doesn't need to take you to court to decide you're a fucking adulterer.
SO? If a girl accused you here on this forum that you raped her when she was just 10 years old, should we automatically believe her and assume you guilty? Again, anandtech forums is NOT a court, so should everyone consider you guilty and have your life ruined forever, over an accusation?

Guilty until proven innocent is a concept, a norm, a standard, a principle! It's got nothing to do with what room you are in, whether its a court room or home room or internet room or whatever.

We as a society, as a people don't want and should not want people to be guilty if someone accuses them of something. In fact as a matter of critical thinking we should ALWAYS and in ALL cases be sceptical of accusations and wait for the facts and evidence to be able to determine more righteously and accurately.
 

UberNeuman

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SO? If a girl accused you here on this forum that you raped her when she was just 10 years old, should we automatically believe her and assume you guilty? Again, anandtech forums is NOT a court, so should everyone consider you guilty and have your life ruined forever, over an accusation?

I N C E L - F E V E R !
 

Jaskalas

Lifer
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I N C E L - F E V E R !

Innocent until proven guilty is how we maintain ourselves as a nation of laws. As a civil society.
To let the public destroy people without due process should, itself, be a crime.

Your hysterical opposition to such ideals is duly noted.
 

sportage

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I don't like the gloating going on over at MSNBC.
Sure, Kavanaugh needs to be stopped simply because he is an very unhinged individual.
If anyone were in any sort of job interview and started acting as Kavanaugh acted in the committee, suggesting nonsense of conspiracy theories against him or her, the employer would pass on hiring.
Especially in todays world where unhinged people can often return with a gun.

But still, Kavanaugh and his chances appear to be coming to an end.
And democrats gloating about that just looks not good.
If anything reenergizes the republicans on the committee, it will be the democrats gloating.
This isn't over yet.
It doesn't look good, Kavanaugh's chances, but never say never.
And Trump, while he suddenly appears "reasonable", we all know Donald trump can flip on a dime.
Just hold the gloating. Instead, take a deep sigh of relief.
 

UberNeuman

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Innocent until proven guilty is how we maintain ourselves as a nation of laws. As a civil society.
To let the public destroy people without due process should, itself, be a crime.

Your hysterical opposition to such ideals is duly noted.

Chill out, Tobias. Did you finish your movie night of "The Accused" and "Irreversible."

lol.
 

compuwiz1

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I don't like the gloating going on over at MSNBC.
Sure, Kavanaugh needs to be stopped simply because he is an very unhinged individual.
If anyone were in any sort of job interview and started acting as Kavanaugh acted in the committee, suggesting nonsense of conspiracy theories against him or her, the employer would pass on hiring.
Especially in todays world where unhinged people can often return with a gun.

But still, Kavanaugh and his chances appear to be coming to an end.
And democrats gloating about that just looks not good.
If anything reenergizes the republicans on the committee, it will be the democrats gloating.
This isn't over yet.
It doesn't look good, Kavanaugh's chances, but never say never.
And Trump, while he suddenly appears "reasonable", we all know Donald trump can flip on a dime.
Just hold the gloating. Instead, take a deep sigh of relief.

I just love the way you guys go running to your leftist news sites, who are just as delusional as some of you. Kavanaugh will get confirmed and you'll have to get over it, or not. I have some of that ointment left.
 

UNCjigga

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I just love the way you guys go running to your leftist news sites, who are just as delusional as some of you. Kavanaugh will get confirmed and you'll have to get over it, or not. I have some of that ointment left.

Who's delusional? AG Rosenstein (whom Flake and Coons consulted in the anteroom while coming up with the FBI plan) said that a week won't be enough time to find anything more than what they already have. I give them a 10% chance of finding anything big enough to derail confirmation. I give it a 1% chance that Kavanaugh withdraws. I give it a 0.1% chance that any other credible assault victims come forward.

So why do we care? It was the right thing to do. That's all.

Edit: If any "leftists" still feel butthurt after he's confirmed...good! I want ALL of them to never forget that ELECTIONS HAVE CONSEQUENCES!
 

Muse

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SO? If a girl accused you here on this forum that you raped her when she was just 10 years old, should we automatically believe her and assume you guilty? Again, anandtech forums is NOT a court, so should everyone consider you guilty and have your life ruined forever, over an accusation?

Guilty until proven innocent is a concept, a norm, a standard, a principle! It's got nothing to do with what room you are in, whether its a court room or home room or internet room or whatever.

We as a society, as a people don't want and should not want people to be guilty if someone accuses them of something. In fact as a matter of critical thinking we should ALWAYS and in ALL cases be sceptical of accusations and wait for the facts and evidence to be able to determine more righteously and accurately.
Problem is, this isn't about ruining a person's life or his family's life. It's about deciding if that person is acceptable as a life long member of a very very small set of individuals who make major decisions in the nation at large. I don't give a fuck if Kav is doing well at his country club or gets dirty looks in church. That's his problem. It's our problem if he's a disreputable justice on the SCOTUS. If he's confirmed, I'm convinced he will be just that.
 

Muse

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I want ALL of them to never forget that ELECTIONS HAVE CONSEQUENCES!
You are clearly a solid lead dead weight jerk. Best you sink to the bottom of the deepest trench of the Pacific Ocean where you belong and leave us in peace.
 

Guru

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Problem is, this isn't about ruining a person's life or his family's life. It's about deciding if that person is acceptable as a life long member of a very very small set of individuals who make major decisions in the nation at large. I don't give a fuck if Kav is doing well at his country club or gets dirty looks in church. That's his problem. It's our problem if he's a disreputable justice on the SCOTUS. If he's confirmed, I'm convinced he will be just that.
STOP using GARBAGE, BULLSHIT, IDIOCY, RETARDATION, LIES, FAKENESS, ABSURDNESS, MENTAL FUCKING ILLNESS then!

Can't you democrats go after this idiot judge for the fact that he has ruled in the past that "suspected terrorists" don't have 4th amendment rights???

Can't you go after him for saying the government can take your data without a warrant if its "national security'TM"?

I mean this is the same BULLSHIT, RETARDATION, IDIOCY, that you did with Trump, you did with Jeff Sessions, etc... Instead of using ACTUAL ARGUMENTS AND FACTS you make stuff up, you call them names, you try and ruin their reputation or life and use "sexist, racist, bigot" and now it seem "rapist".

It would have been easy to beat Trump if you idiots elected Bernie and arrested and jailed the democratic party establishment who stole the election from him, they are the ones that subverted US democracy, not foreign governments and attacked trump with FACTS and expose his policies!

Same thing with the Jess Sessions nomination or Mike Pompeos, or John Bolton's, etc... These are terrible people with terrible policies and history of making terrible decisions! All you know to do is yell and scream like morons: "racist, sexist, bigot AND NOW rapist".

I hate this pick, yet I'm forced to defend him now against these baseless wild accusations. THAT IS HOW TRUMP WINS, REPUBLICANS WIN! Your average person is sick and tired of you BULLSHIT, GARBAGE, CRAP!

People want to hear the facts, not hear the girl(in this case) who cries wolf all the time!
 

blackangst1

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Innocent until proven guilty is how we maintain ourselves as a nation of laws. As a civil society.
To let the public destroy people without due process should, itself, be a crime.

Your hysterical opposition to such ideals is duly noted.
In before this isn't a criminal trial
 
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This is a long thread, so I don't know if this has been brought up already. There are some things about Dr. Ford that make me a bit suspicious. She didn't just come up with her story when Kavanaugh was nominated. She had been following the trajectory of his career for a long time, way before the nomination. She told someone, something along the lines of; OMG, he could be selected for the Supreme Court someday and that it could not be allowed to happen. Since she had that opinion for many years, there would have been plenty of time for her to perfect her story and rehearse it for many years. Some people are capable of self hypnosis, to the point where they make themselves believe something. A .person who truly believes what they are saying would be difficult to find to be guilty of perjury. Maybe something did happen to her, I'm not discounting that. But...maybe she decided it was of some political importance to her to plug in a certain name, even if it was not the correct person. In her polygraph test, she was only asked two questions. Hmmm.

Some may ask, what would she have to gain? Even though she didn't ask for the gofundme, it's possible that she knew one would probably be created for her and the public who believed her would pour a lot of money into it. And...someone always has to take one for the team.


California? [check]
Liberal [check]
Political activist [check]

I see motives. Call me nuts, maybe I am, but I could find what I wrote plausible.

When you come back to the real world let us know.
 

Jhhnn

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Problem is, this isn't about ruining a person's life or his family's life. It's about deciding if that person is acceptable as a life long member of a very very small set of individuals who make major decisions in the nation at large. I don't give a fuck if Kav is doing well at his country club or gets dirty looks in church. That's his problem. It's our problem if he's a disreputable justice on the SCOTUS. If he's confirmed, I'm convinced he will be just that.

The GOP foesn't care about the perceived integrity or moral authority of the Court. They just care about it ruling the way they want, in favor of the privileged financial elite.
 
Nov 25, 2013
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I see that someone forgot to clean the propaganda parrot's cage again.

Unfortunately for you I did. Context does matter, she is a doctor of psychology, so her act of playing the innocent naif who knows nothing about how polygraphs work, or the science behind memory and trauma simply doesn't wash. Either she's profoundly dishonest, or she's profoundly unqualified for her job. Just the education and "training" for her job should have "triggered" her into a predicament where it would have been unavoidable long ago, never mind with her leftist politics, in the circles she swims likely radical feminist at that.

And no, false memories aren't random, in this case she was politically primed and motivated to replace certain memories with a convenient target. And this is a person who lies about being too afraid to fly when she does it all the time, convenient dishonesty is clearly not beyond her. And professional ethics, simply nonexistent, there is no way she doesn't know about polygraph, its literally psych 101, she went on the day of a funeral, and couldn't even remember who paid for it. This isn't a reliable person to be charitable.

And of course this entire concern from the left, this entire circus is completely disingenuous. If the new standard is any false accusation can derail anything, you've validated sharia law because there can be no justice under such a system. And why would a woman do this? The left expose themselves as the ultimate sexists when they do this because you wouldn't ask why would someone blow themselves up over their beliefs, they clearly do it all the time, and the fact is, feminism at its core is simply nothing more than a religion, and this is far less than dying for your beliefs, in fact its pure positive attention from the only people that matter her, and monetary gain to boot.

What is the plight of the false accuser? Well this is how mattress girl was treated long after her story fell apart.
http://www.artnews.com/2016/06/28/n...mes-emma-sulkowicz-its-2016-woman-of-courage/
http://archive.is/uGTPN
And this case proves that even for the oldest and most well known feminist organization, no amount of proof against a false accusation is enough, because as I said, its a religion.


It says everything about the left that they will go this far to defend their fringe values from a nominee who will protect the fundamental constitutional values they are attempting to erode at every turn.
 
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