Kavanaugh SCOTUS Senate Judicial Hearing

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fskimospy

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This idea that "both sides do it" is belied by the fact that Donald Trump is president, while the Donald Trump of the Democratic party is completely unknown because he or she has not been elevated to anything higher than posting ranting screeds and comments on Twitter.

It’s not just Trump. Kavanaugh would have been long withdrawn as a democratic nominee. Democrats would never have tried to pass that ‘skinny repeal’ nonsense whose only purpose was to destabilize insurance markets.

I could go on and on. One of our two major parties is sick and it’s only getting worse.
 
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soundforbjt

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I learned something new last night, remember the signing statements Bush used for torture, etc? Yep, that was Kavanaugh.
 

IronWing

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I learned something new last night, remember the signing statements Bush used for torture, etc? Yep, that was Kavanaugh.
This is why the 100k pages of hidden documents are essential for determining Kavanaugh's fitness for the court* the depths of Republican depravity.

* We already know he's not fit.
 

HomerJS

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Innocent until proven guilty is a concept, principle, etc... it's not dependant on what room you are in. We either uphold this concept, this belief, this principle or don't. in your case, everyone who is accused is essentially automatically ruined. He/she might as well end their own lives.
Really? They why if you are black Trump says even if you are proven innocent you are still guilty?
 

HomerJS

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And the Democrats don't care about anything except blocking ANYTHING the GOP tries to accomplish. This circus proves they'll go to any length to do that. And when the battle is over they'll stand around grinning at each other with blood dripping from their teeth. All that matters is the win.
And where would Dems have gotten that idea? Oh yeah, this meeting Mitch called before Obama took office
For several hours in the Caucus Room (a high-end D.C. establishment), the book says they plotted out ways to not just win back political power, but to also put the brakes on Obama’s legislative platform.

"If you act like you're the minority, you’re going to stay in the minority,” Draper quotes [Rep. Kevin] McCarthy [R-Calif.] as saying. “We’ve gotta challenge them on every single bill and challenge them on every single campaign.”

Now go fuck yourself
 

fskimospy

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Plenty of people on "one side" making "even if he did it..." statements.

More than 50% of Republicans said he should be confirmed even if the allegations are true. Think about how insane that is.

Like I said, one of our parties is sick.
 

Guru

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Really? They why if you are black Trump says even if you are proven innocent you are still guilty?
? Why are you asking me? Did I say that? NO!

There are idiots out there, who might think like that. And just so you didn't get the memo, I actually dislike MOST of Trump's policies! I'm forced to defend Trump in certain cases, because the attacks on him go like this: "racist, sexist, bigot and now rapist". Really? STOP with the utter retarded bullshit and focus on REAL ISSUES!

Just a recent poll found that less than 8% care about "Russia meddling or the Russia investigation", but over 70% care about jobs, over 50% about housing, etc.... People care about real things that affect them and your average person is not dumb, when they hear the "racist, sexist, bigot" crap, they know its bullshit, THAT IS WHY TRUMP WAS ELECTED.

People who don't even like Trump voted for him because they are sick and tired of MORONS who's only knowledge is to repeat the brainwashed propaganda into them of "racist, sexist, bigot". Now there is a new attack it seems of "rapist".
 
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Citation?
The "Central Park 5"? Who were exonerated by DNA evidence after Trump lead a campaign against them in the media for years. Even after they were cleared he called their release a injustice and doubled down. His reasoning? They were bad kids and they were in the park at night. They must have been up to something. None had any criminal records before their initial arrests.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politic...d-trump-doesnt-care-if-youre-innocent/503411/

What followed was a miscarriage of justice. After two days under repeated questioning, four of the five teenagers signed contradictory confessions and were each sentenced to between five and 15 years in prison. DNA evidence later established that Matias Reyes, a serial rapist already behind bars, had committed the crime by himself. All five men had their convictions vacated in 2002.

Donald Trump disagrees. On Friday, he told CNN he still believes the Central Park Five committed the crime for which they have been exonerated.

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Their exoneration in 2002, long after the media frenzy and the broader crime wave of the 1990s had receded, did not dissuade him. When Mayor Bill de Blasio announced the city would settle their lawsuit for $40 million in 2014, Trump called it “politics at its lowest and worst level.” He criticized the courts, which had a “lot to answer for,” as well as the “stupidity” of city officials. Only the police officers who had extracted false confessions from five teenagers escaped his scorn.

“Speak to the detectives on the case and try listening to the facts,” he wrote in an editorial. “These young men do not exactly have the pasts of angels.”

The Central Park Five case is not an anomaly. Trump told a police union last December he would use executive orders to mandate the death penalty for people who kill police officers. When asked at a recent town hall how he would stop “black-on-black crime,” he said he would apply stop-and-frisk nationwide. After the arrest of Ahmad Khan Rahami for allegedly planting pressure-cooker bombs in Manhattan in September, Trump voiced dismay that the “evil thug” would be given “amazing hospitalization” and “an outstanding lawyer.”

“His case will go through the various court systems for years and, in the end, people will forget, and his punishment will not be what it once would have been,” Trump later told a crowd of supporters about Rahami’s case. “What a sad situation. We must have speedy but fair trials, and we must deliver a just and very harsh punishment to these people.”
 
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Guru

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This is not about whether a person's life is ruined, it's about choosing a worthy addition to the SCOTUS, can't you get that through your head????

You really are a dumb moron, aren't you? Did you read that I disagree with Brett's rulings and his interpretations of the 4th and 5th amendment? I don't like him to be confirmed you dumb moron! DUMB MORON! DUMB MORON! Get that through your head! I don't think he is a good pick, imbecile! Get that retard? Get that moron?

I have an issue with dumb morons like you who just because he is nominated by a republican you label him as guilty because of a wild accusation and you push this fake feminazi bullshit how we should automatically believe all accusers, which is really dumb and retarded, this is how it was in the past 300+ years ago and guess what? Every person was a fucking slave that could be put in a dungeon at the whim of the powerful! Dumb idiot.

There is no evidence against him, no proof, and he is innocent until proven guilty. If you don't want his nomination argue with the facts, with his rulings, not this fake bullshit and wild accusations!

I'm FORCED TO DEFEND Bret Kavanaugh because of dumb morons, dumb retards, dumb imbeciles, dumb brainless turds like you! Instead of allying with people like me, with independents, libertarians, classical liberals, constitutionalists, objective people, you fight with us and push all this FAKE bullshit, rather than agreeing with us that Bret is a bad candidate because of his previous rulings and writings!

AGAIN THIS IS WHY TRUMP WON AND WILL WIN AGAIN IN 2020 IF YOU CONTINUE THIS IDIOCY! People don't want to hear your DEMOCRATIC PARTY BULLSHIT! The democratic party has less than 45 million registered voters. Republicans also have similarly low numbers, they have about 35 registered voters.

But when you argue against Trump, against Jeff sessions, against Bret with BULLSHIT, that pisses non partisan people off, you get additional 30 million people to vore for a Trump like person!

So keep going this way you imbecile and keep loosing if you want! Or you can get a brain and ally with people like me and lets tackle bad choices, bad policies with facts and statistics and evidence!
 

Guru

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You just described 20 years of Republican bullshit against Hillary Clinton. I'm sure you can endure a few more weeks of the Kava-naughts.
Wait, are you saying Hillary and Bill are not corrupted and criminal? Are you really saying that? Are you dumb, ignorant or a troll?

Because I actually disagree with Bernie Sanders MORE than with Hillary Clinton, but he would have been a much better candidate because he is at least MOSTLY honest and isn't nearly as corrupt as Hillary. Most of Washington is corrupt, not all, but most, so is Bernie, but he is like a child compared to Hillary.

She is wicked, lying, twisted, corrupt, criminal, dishonest, opportunistic, etc...

Bernie might be 100% ignorant, but at least he is mostly honest, at least he believes in what he says, he is way less corrupt than most of Washington, etc...

To say that Hillary Clinton is not corrupt or criminal is just a joke!
 

PlanetJosh

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There may be something good about Trump from all this: he recognizes an unglued man when he sees one. So both sides could agree Trump knows an unhinged person when he sees it and acts accordingly by going along with further investigation by the authorities.

The conservatives may say Trump is only abiding by the wishes of the senate committee. But to me it does appear Trump has been affected by the overly emotional display by Kavanaugh, hence my sarcastic paragraph above.
 

soundforbjt

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You really are a dumb moron, aren't you? Did you read that I disagree with Brett's rulings and his interpretations of the 4th and 5th amendment? I don't like him to be confirmed you dumb moron! DUMB MORON! DUMB MORON! Get that through your head! I don't think he is a good pick, imbecile! Get that retard? Get that moron?

I have an issue with dumb morons like you who just because he is nominated by a republican you label him as guilty because of a wild accusation and you push this fake feminazi bullshit how we should automatically believe all accusers, which is really dumb and retarded, this is how it was in the past 300+ years ago and guess what? Every person was a fucking slave that could be put in a dungeon at the whim of the powerful! Dumb idiot.

There is no evidence against him, no proof, and he is innocent until proven guilty. If you don't want his nomination argue with the facts, with his rulings, not this fake bullshit and wild accusations!

I'm FORCED TO DEFEND Bret Kavanaugh because of dumb morons, dumb retards, dumb imbeciles, dumb brainless turds like you! Instead of allying with people like me, with independents, libertarians, classical liberals, constitutionalists, objective people, you fight with us and push all this FAKE bullshit, rather than agreeing with us that Bret is a bad candidate because of his previous rulings and writings!

AGAIN THIS IS WHY TRUMP WON AND WILL WIN AGAIN IN 2020 IF YOU CONTINUE THIS IDIOCY! People don't want to hear your DEMOCRATIC PARTY BULLSHIT! The democratic party has less than 45 million registered voters. Republicans also have similarly low numbers, they have about 35 registered voters.

But when you argue against Trump, against Jeff sessions, against Bret with BULLSHIT, that pisses non partisan people off, you get additional 30 million people to vore for a Trump like person!

So keep going this way you imbecile and keep loosing if you want! Or you can get a brain and ally with people like me and lets tackle bad choices, bad policies with facts and statistics and evidence!
You know, you'd actually have a point if Democrats had done something similar wrt Gorsuch, They didn't and he was confirmed with no allegations. You are wrong, but don't let me stop you from raving on. Innocent until proven guilty is for trial, NOT A JOB INTERVIEW !

Edit: Nobody is FORCING YOU to defend Kavanaugh.
 
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fskimospy

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So what do Democrats have for November?

1) Collusion?

2) Kavanaugh?

or 3) no Clue?

I vote for #3.

How do you feel about

4) Massive, historic levels of corruption at all levels of the federal government and a congress that enables it.

This is the most nakedly corrupt administration the country has ever seen. Time to put a stop to it.
 

FelixDeCat

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How do you feel about

4) Massive, historic levels of corruption at all levels of the federal government and a congress that enables it.

This is the most nakedly corrupt administration the country has ever seen. Time to put a stop to it.

You mean Deep State corruption like at the FBI, etc? And leaking of information and documents such as was done by Pelosi's staff?

I agree.
 

fskimospy

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You mean Deep State corruption like at the FBI, etc? And leaking of information and documents such as was done by Pelosi's staff?

I agree.

No, I’m talking about members of the president's private club dictating policy at the VA despite not being public officials. I mean diplomats and leaders of other countries putting money in the president’s pocket to influence policy. I mean the president firing the head of the FBI because he wouldn’t stop investigating criminal activity by the president’s associates. Things like that.

Republicans are terrified of the FBI and are trying to brand it as corrupt and illegitimate because they are terrified that the law is coming for them. And they should be!
 
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