Kavanaugh SCOTUS Senate Judicial Hearing

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IronWing

No Lifer
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What is it about Feinstein knowing this information way before we did, that you don't understand. We are not members of congress. She sat on the information and failed to do what she should have done, which was to bring it into the light when she knew about it. Don't try and pin that failure on me. Democrats own it.
There was no failure there. The supposed failure is an artifact of the Republicans ramming Kavanaugh through the process before the American people could find out what a nutjob he is. The man spent tax dollars chasing Vince Foster's ghost. You're backing a lunatic.
 
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soundforbjt

Lifer
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Again, this is pure bullshit. Ford's own friend wrote a letter to the senate committee that she hadn't been or seen Kavanaugh at any party whether she's been with Ford, herself or others. Ford said that there were 6-7 people at the party, if she and her friend were there as she said, that would leave 4-5 people more there, if you take out Kavanaugh and his friend Judge, then that leaves only 2-3 people at the party. If they were at that party there, she would have seen Kavanaugh there. You can't be at a party with 6 or 7 people and not be able to see them. So her friend basically did NOT corroborate her story. Neither of the supposed witnesses have corroborated her story!

So that is just the facts. There is ZERO evidence, ZERO proof that Kavanaugh did anything.

What I'm saying to you in the previous post, and you are intentionally ignoring it, is that even with NO evidence at all, no nothing, mere hours after the allegation, ALL you democrats said he's guilty and he shouldn't be confirmed because of it! And I've been watching you here, and other places literally from minutes to hours after the story broke, labeling his guilty with ZERO PROOF!

No one even knew if the story was true, there was no official confirmation that the story was even real, yet you collectivist just knew he was guilty! This is my issue with you! You were brainwashed by MSNBC and CNN that this is an evil scotus candidate, so all your arguments were: "he wants to make babies live, OMG he is evil". I've not seen anyone actually go into details on his rulings and his views on the constitution and attack him on that.You had NOTHING, until this wild accusation and ALL of you boarded the RETARD train and jumped on the guilty wagon! NO EVIDENCE, NO PROOF, NO NOTHING, YET HE WAS GUILTY IN YOUR MIND!

Now you are trying to justify this by absurd means, by insane means, saying its the room that counts if someone is innocent until proven guilty, otherwise it doesn't matter.

Will he overturn Roe vs Wade? No! Will he and other right leaning judges put limitations to it if they get the chance? You bet! The previous ruling way overreaching far and beyond. It didn't take into account any counter argument at all and gave a blanket check to even murders of seconds before the baby is born. That is hardcore! And the court voted 100% on party lines on that!

But hey, lets say Kavanaugh isn't confirmed, do you really think that would change anything? It won't change anything because there is no democrats in the USA that actually use facts and statistics anymore. You never oppose people on their policies, you oppose them purely on partisan lines! If Kavanaugh was a Obama nominee, you all would have loved him, Roe Wade or no!

We see the same thing over and over with you! Trump, Jeff Sessions, Mike Pompeo, John Bolton, Gina Haspel, etc... ALL you know is : "racist, sexit, bigot AND NOW rapist". That is your whole playbook! You've never gone after them on facts. You've never pointed to many of these people's terrible records and bad decisions in the past.
So much bullshit and raving...so concerned about Democrats.
 

compuwiz1

Admin Emeritus Elite Member
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Liberals are really convinced that conservatives are gunning for Roe V Wade. Not so. Most of them I know, while they do not personally support all aspects of abortion, are reasonable toward it, especially in the cases of rape, incest and the possibility that the child would be born with severe birth defects. Where we disagree, often times, is at what point in the pregnancy abortions should be allowed to be performed. Most of us consider abortion to be settled law.
Our concerns about having a liberal weighted court are about keeping the Gov. Jerry Browns of this world from creating sanctuary states, allowing illegals to vote and appointing illegals to government positions. We want judges who interpret things according to the law, not by their feelings or biases in situations.
 

HomerJS

Lifer
Feb 6, 2002
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An FBI agent said that he thinks the Dems are going to be disappointed because he doesn't see this investigation turning up anything different than what is already known.
If that's the case why did Republicans try so hard to avoid FBI following up?
 

IronWing

No Lifer
Jul 20, 2001
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Liberals are really convinced that conservatives are gunning for Roe V Wade. Not so. Most of them I know, while they do not personally support all aspects of abortion, are reasonable toward it, especially in the cases of rape, incest and the possibility that the child would be born with severe birth defects. Where we disagree, often times, is at what point in the pregnancy abortions should be allowed to be performed. Most of us consider abortion to be settled law.
Our concerns about having a liberal weighted court are about keeping the Gov. Jerry Browns of this world from creating sanctuary states, allowing illegals to vote and appointing illegals to government positions. We want judges who interpret things according to the law, not by their feelings or biases in situations.
Sanctuary cities are perfectly legal, illegals can't vote, and I'm not aware of illegals in appointed government positions so these concerns you have don't require you to jettison the Constitution to put to rest.
 

soundforbjt

Lifer
Feb 15, 2002
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Liberals are really convinced that conservatives are gunning for Roe V Wade. Not so. Most of them I know, while they do not personally support all aspects of abortion, are reasonable toward it, especially in the cases of rape, incest and the possibility that the child would be born with severe birth defects. Where we disagree, often times, is at what point in the pregnancy abortions should be allowed to be performed. Most of us consider abortion to be settled law.
Our concerns about having a liberal weighted court are about keeping the Gov. Jerry Browns of this world from creating sanctuary states, allowing illegals to vote and appointing illegals to government positions. We want judges who interpret things according to the law, not by their feelings or biases in situations.
Yeah, Kavanaugh really showed his fairness in his opening statement didn't he? Did you read my link above? Or do facts scare you?
 
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HomerJS

Lifer
Feb 6, 2002
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Again, this is pure bullshit. Ford's own friend wrote a letter to the senate committee that she hadn't been or seen Kavanaugh at any party whether she's been with Ford, herself or others. Ford said that there were 6-7 people at the party, if she and her friend were there as she said, that would leave 4-5 people more there, if you take out Kavanaugh and his friend Judge, then that leaves only 2-3 people at the party. If they were at that party there, she would have seen Kavanaugh there. You can't be at a party with 6 or 7 people and not be able to see them. So her friend basically did NOT corroborate her story. Neither of the supposed witnesses have corroborated her story!

So that is just the facts. There is ZERO evidence, ZERO proof that Kavanaugh did anything.

What I'm saying to you in the previous post, and you are intentionally ignoring it, is that even with NO evidence at all, no nothing, mere hours after the allegation, ALL you democrats said he's guilty and he shouldn't be confirmed because of it! And I've been watching you here, and other places literally from minutes to hours after the story broke, labeling his guilty with ZERO PROOF!

No one even knew if the story was true, there was no official confirmation that the story was even real, yet you collectivist just knew he was guilty! This is my issue with you! You were brainwashed by MSNBC and CNN that this is an evil scotus candidate, so all your arguments were: "he wants to make babies live, OMG he is evil". I've not seen anyone actually go into details on his rulings and his views on the constitution and attack him on that.You had NOTHING, until this wild accusation and ALL of you boarded the RETARD train and jumped on the guilty wagon! NO EVIDENCE, NO PROOF, NO NOTHING, YET HE WAS GUILTY IN YOUR MIND!

Now you are trying to justify this by absurd means, by insane means, saying its the room that counts if someone is innocent until proven guilty, otherwise it doesn't matter.

Will he overturn Roe vs Wade? No! Will he and other right leaning judges put limitations to it if they get the chance? You bet! The previous ruling way overreaching far and beyond. It didn't take into account any counter argument at all and gave a blanket check to even murders of seconds before the baby is born. That is hardcore! And the court voted 100% on party lines on that!

But hey, lets say Kavanaugh isn't confirmed, do you really think that would change anything? It won't change anything because there is no democrats in the USA that actually use facts and statistics anymore. You never oppose people on their policies, you oppose them purely on partisan lines! If Kavanaugh was a Obama nominee, you all would have loved him, Roe Wade or no!

We see the same thing over and over with you! Trump, Jeff Sessions, Mike Pompeo, John Bolton, Gina Haspel, etc... ALL you know is : "racist, sexit, bigot AND NOW rapist". That is your whole playbook! You've never gone after them on facts. You've never pointed to many of these people's terrible records and bad decisions in the past.
If a polygraph is administered to Kavanaugh we would know. Ford passed her's
 

soundforbjt

Lifer
Feb 15, 2002
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Sanctuary cities are perfectly legal, illegals can't vote, and I'm not aware of illegals in appointed government positions so these concerns you have don't require you to jettison the Constitution to put to rest.
All that was missing was MS-13 which makes up 1% of the million known gangs in the US, that's the GOP for ya, always looking out for the 1%.
 

compuwiz1

Admin Emeritus Elite Member
Oct 9, 1999
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If a polygraph is administered to Kavanaugh we would know. Ford passed her's
Ford got two questions...two. And she got them from someone who had no legal authority over her responses. A polygraph is not that difficult to pass. So, hell, hook Kavanaugh up and give him two questions as well. Fair is fair.
 

compuwiz1

Admin Emeritus Elite Member
Oct 9, 1999
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Sanctuary cities are perfectly legal, illegals can't vote, and I'm not aware of illegals in appointed government positions so these concerns you have don't require you to jettison the Constitution to put to rest.

Brown just got a beat down on the Sanctuary city law in California, which was recently passed. A judge has ruled it unconstitutional. Did that news escape you?
 

soundforbjt

Lifer
Feb 15, 2002
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Ford got two questions...two. And she got them from someone who had no legal authority over her responses. A polygraph is not that difficult to pass. So, hell, hook Kavanaugh up and give him two questions as well. Fair is fair.
He'd never allow it, he's far too privileged and entitled for such things.

Not going to admit you were wrong on the pardon post?
 
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fskimospy

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An FBI agent said that he thinks the Dems are going to be disappointed because he doesn't see this investigation turning up anything different than what is already known.

That’s certainly possible but unless he has direct knowledge of the investigation it doesn’t mean a ton.
 

Aegeon

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Nov 2, 2004
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Again, this is pure bullshit. Ford's own friend wrote a letter to the senate committee that she hadn't been or seen Kavanaugh at any party whether she's been with Ford, herself or others. Ford said that there were 6-7 people at the party, if she and her friend were there as she said, that would leave 4-5 people more there, if you take out Kavanaugh and his friend Judge, then that leaves only 2-3 people at the party. If they were at that party there, she would have seen Kavanaugh there. You can't be at a party with 6 or 7 people and not be able to see them. So her friend basically did NOT corroborate her story. Neither of the supposed witnesses have corroborated her story!
This is you being blatantly deceptive at absolute best. Ford's friend ACTUALLY has gone on record not remembering whether she was at the party with Kavanaugh. (In case there is any confusion she certainly had been with Ford at other parties over the years.) Over 30 years later its not surprising if you can't remember the details of what was for her personally an uneventful party at the time. Now she did also clarify she did not specifically remember Kavanaugh at any party, but if she did not know Kavanaugh particularly over 30 years later this is not surprising again. (Disregarding Ford's friend might have been drinking on top of this at any particular party.)

That is very different than the implication she contradicted the story, and at best you can say she unsurprisingly was unable to remember anything about the party over 30 years later. She did not say something like she clearly remembers the party and Kavanaugh was not there. (Although she did clarify she believes the alleged assault did happen.)
 
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fskimospy

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Brown just got a beat down on the Sanctuary city law in California, which was recently passed. A judge has ruled it unconstitutional. Did that news escape you?

What ruling are you talking about?

Sanctuary cities are perfectly legal and any attempt to abolish them is a gross violation of the constitution. Forcing state law enforcement to enforce federal law is HUGELY unconstitutional.

Color me shocked that conservatives only care about states rights when it’s the right to do conservative things.
 

IronWing

No Lifer
Jul 20, 2001
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Brown just got a beat down on the Sanctuary city law in California, which was recently passed. A judge has ruled it unconstitutional. Did that news escape you?
What got struck down was the state fine on businesses cooperating with ICE. The sanctuary city laws are in place and ruled perfectly legal.
 

senseamp

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Garland didn't even get a hearing and he took it like a man. Kavanagh cried like a little bitch and got angry.
 

soundforbjt

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jackstar7

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More than 50% of Republicans said he should be confirmed even if the allegations are true. Think about how insane that is.

Like I said, one of our parties is sick.
I noticed that none of our conservative players will respond to this.

They are, as ever, the party of anti-women.
 
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If that's "cover", then people are stupid or the media is not doing enough to report the massive corruption going on.

So, I take it you've been living under a rock for at least a couple of years now? Its the former. Hell, most people complain that the media is too focused on all the awful shit. They don't want to have to care about this shit, because then they might have to actually deal with it.

An FBI agent said that he thinks the Dems are going to be disappointed because he doesn't see this investigation turning up anything different than what is already known.

Sounds like we might need to investigate this guy for being biased. Doesn't matter if he's not involved in the investigation or got removed from it because of saying this, it indicates that the entire investigation has been compromised over his partisan opinions and Ford will never get a fair shake. That proves that Kavanaugh is guilty then (hey, if you guys can use the texts from that one agent as reason for how Turmp is completely not guilty...I'm just using your own "logic" here).

Right on both counts. People generally are dumb, or just don't have the time to care about the details. And the media in this country is straight up Jerry Springer-esque garbage that just has talking heads from both sides repeat talking points with no challenge whatsoever. NPR tries, but mostly fails and invites obvious shills like Jonah Goldberg to opine. The BBC is fantastic, but has almost no influence in the U.S. The "liberal" and "failing" NY Times bends over backwards to both-sides everything.

I agree with the first part (except I think you're wrong about how that is, its not because they don't have time or that they're simply dumb, its because they choose to be ignorant, because this lets them keep believing that they don't have any input, that the whole system is rigged against them, and a whole host of other bullshit where people want to just believe whatever crazy shit they want versus bothering to actually learn, let alone do something about it) but not the second. If that were the case then you wouldn't even know anything about how much of a scumbag Kavanugh is. Instead we've had a bevy of prior situations brought up.

The media has been exposing a lot of corruption and all manner of things, its up to the American people to actually hold people accountable for it. That you blame the media for the latter is just ridiculous. That you then use that to support people ignoring the former, thus further reinforcing the latter is what you people ranting about the media fail to realize. You're helping fuel that feedback loop causing the problems you're mad about.
 

Balt

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Liberals are really convinced that conservatives are gunning for Roe V Wade.

Yeah, because they are. Will abortion be outright banned and Roe v. Wade overturned in whole? Maybe not. Have conservatives already made it virtually impossible to get an abortion in some states, regardless of the circumstances (incest, rape, etc.)? Yup.

They don't have to ban abortions. They just have to create arbitrary bullshit laws that require things like admitting privileges and regulate the size of doorways and hallways at abortion clinics that accomplish the same end result. Just the kind of thing an evasive, disingenuous person like Kavanaugh will undoubtedly support.
 
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Again, this is pure bullshit. Ford's own friend wrote a letter to the senate committee that she hadn't been or seen Kavanaugh at any party whether she's been with Ford, herself or others. Ford said that there were 6-7 people at the party, if she and her friend were there as she said, that would leave 4-5 people more there, if you take out Kavanaugh and his friend Judge, then that leaves only 2-3 people at the party. If they were at that party there, she would have seen Kavanaugh there. You can't be at a party with 6 or 7 people and not be able to see them. So her friend basically did NOT corroborate her story. Neither of the supposed witnesses have corroborated her story!

If Kavanaugh was in a completely different room trying to rape her, they could easily have not seen him or her at the party, even if its a small one. If she leaves and the friend saw her but never saw Kavanaugh (say because he was passed out drunk in the other room, with her not knowing he was ever there), its quite easy to see how the friend would have no recollection of seeing Kavanaugh at that party.

FYI, the friend not remembering doesn't mean nearly as much. Because for the friend, that was probably just a typical random party not notable from any other so it'll blur in with the rest of them. For Ford, it was a traumatic experience that left an indelible mark on her.
 
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