Kavanaugh SCOTUS Senate Judicial Hearing

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Starbuck1975

Lifer
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So you agree with this statement of Kavanaugh that when ISPs are editors and speakers when they transmit your speech”
I don’t agree with it, but I don’t find it extremist or disqualifying.

Perjury is disqualifying, not judicial perspective.
 

IJTSSG

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Associate Justice Kavanaugh has been sworn in.

I'm so tired of winning.

Good job!
 

fskimospy

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I don’t agree with it, but I don’t find it extremist or disqualifying.

Perjury is disqualifying, not judicial perspective.

You realize that such a think renders net neutrality unconstitutional, right?

It basically makes all ISP network management regulation unconstitutional. It’s an absolutely breathtaking change to the regulatory power of government, done in opposition to the overwhelming majority of voters. That’s radical by any definition.

You don’t have to view him being a radical as disqualifying but that’s what he is.
 

Commodus

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Ginning up false 36 year old accusations and dragging the whole country though the mud is putting party and ideology before country for sure; if any of what you say has merit, chalk it up to tit-for-tat.

How do you know they're false? It's funny how folks like you will lie about wanting people to be "innocent until proven guilty" (this wasn't a court) about Kavanaugh, but will insist that you're completely sure Ford was lying. Apparently you support women only up until they accuse Republicans, then they magically become bitch slut whore liars.

You are a sexual assault apologist, and I hope the women in your life find this out. Even if Kavanaugh didn't do what he's accused of, you took the accusations so lightly that you should be ashamed of yourself as a human being.
 
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fskimospy

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Mar 10, 2006
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Associate Justice Kavanaugh has been sworn in.

I'm so tired of winning.

Good job!

What’s funny is that you probably disagree with most of what his judicial philosophy stands for but you don’t even know it. For you it’s all about emotional tribalism.

Good job!
 

Starbuck1975

Lifer
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I don't think Avenatti really had much impact on all of this and people who say that he did are just looking for someone to blame. The Republicans didn't need him to dismiss the allegations before the Senate since they had already decided to anyway.
I disagree. Avenatti deserves all of the blame for diluting the legitimate accusations with his nonsense. Avenatti is who emboldened the GOP to go on offense.
 

crashtech

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You just accused Ford of falsely accusing. The shoe is now on your foot.
Not really. Again, there exists no right for any particular accusation to be believed, or even taken seriously. This has nothing whatever to do with the presumption of innocence.
 

IJTSSG

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What’s funny is that you probably disagree with most of what his judicial philosophy stands for but you don’t even know it. For you it’s all about emotional tribalism.

Good job!
What's funny is that you've somehow convinced yourself that you know anything about me based on a few, probably troll, posts on an internet message board. You don't have a clue.
 

crashtech

Lifer
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How do you know they're false? It's funny how folks like you will lie about wanting people to be "innocent until proven guilty" (this wasn't a court) about Kavanaugh, but will insist that you're completely sure Ford was lying. Apparently you support women only up until they accuse Republicans, then they magically become bitch slut whore liars.

You are a sexual assault apologist, and I hope the women in your life find this out. Even if Kavanaugh didn't do what he's accused of, you took the accusations so lightly that you should be ashamed of yourself as a human being.
I did you a favor and read your post to my wife and daughter, so they know my side of the story and yours now, too. My OPINION is that the accusations are false, and until due process takes place and there is a trial, we are all free to speculate as we please. I think Ford is simply mistaken in her recollection. That has been known to happen with memories so old.
 

IronWing

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Here we are after 3 weeks of pearl clutching and high drama, and the vote went pretty much exactly as it would have 3 weeks back. Mrs Ford and Kavanaugh managed to score half a million bucks each, so I guess it was worth it to them.
I think the dems made a mistake bringing Mrs. Ford forward and making it the central issue of the conformation process. At the end of the day, all it did was piss off both sides.
I'd like to see us move away from emotion and grievance as the two driving forces in politics, wishful thinking I know, but I hope springs eternal and all that.
They didn't. The Republicans successfully stonewalled the bigger issues by refusing to disclose Kavanaugh's record. In the face of the impossibility of getting access to Kavanaugh's legal writings, the Dems used what they had. Based on what has been released about Kavanaugh we can conclude that he supports torture and war crimes. The level of his depravity is unknown but given the Republican fear of his writings being daylighted, it must be deep indeed.

Congratulations to the fascists, you got your boy. Enjoy.
 
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dank69

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Not really. Again, there exists no right for any particular accusation to be believed, or even taken seriously. This has nothing whatever to do with the presumption of innocence.
Yes really. You specifically said the allegations were false.
 

IronWing

No Lifer
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It's rub your nose in it and swat you on your backside for playing dirty. Next time let's stick to the nominee's official record, shall we? But there wasn't much there to hang a hat on, so it had to get nasty, and people saw right through it as the desperate dirty trick that it was.

The Republicans hid Kavanaugh's official record, you fascist fuck.
 

crashtech

Lifer
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Yes really. You specifically said the allegations were false.
The big problem we have now is that that the presumption of innocence is being turned on its head.

There is no right to be believed. To assert such would nullify the presumption of innocence. I'm not sure how otherwise intelligent people can't figure this out. Maybe it's because we're in the middle of a panic.
 
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Commodus

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I did you a favor and read your post to my wife and daughter, so they know my side of the story and yours now, too. My OPINION is that the accusations are false, and until due process takes place and there is a trial, we are all free to speculate as we please. I think Ford is simply mistaken in her recollection. That has been known to happen with memories so old.

And Kavanaugh is known to have lied during the process multiple times (such as denying his heavy drinking). So who do you trust, a woman who freely admits what she does and doesn't remember, or a man who is very adamant when lying?

Oh, and if you genuinely care about due process, then you still have to declare this appointment process a sham. The FBI was given just a week to conduct an investigation, and didn't even get to interview Kavanaugh or Ford, let alone the dozens of other people who could have filled in details. You say you're interested in due process, but the Republicans specifically made sure that due process couldn't happen. Instead, the only way any kind of justice can happen is if the Dems can regain power and ensure a real investigation takes place.
 
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