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Ackmed

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Just to recap a few facts:

Ford does not remember;
-What day it happened
-What month in happened
-What year it happened
-Where it happened
-How she got there
-How she got home
-Who was there
-Has zero corroborating witnesses
-Alleged witnesses have zero knowledge of the incident
-Some even flat out refute it
-Won't turn over evidence that she was trying to use against Kav, shrink notes. Pelosi wants to get the FBI notes and show the world, but not these. Whodathunk that?
-Didn't know who paid for the poly
-Claims to not be politically motivated and did not want to come forward yet got a lawyer and had a poly months ago
-So much more but tired of spelling out the obvious

How is someone supposed to defend themselves from this? It is so open ended nobody can. Every woman (person actually) should be heard. If it was just a woman's word against a man's, I would believe the woman just about every time. Yet when you take into account all the other evidence, or lack of it this case simply doesnt stand up. Not a single woman who worked with Kav the entire career that spanned decades claims anything, and they support him. He has hired virtually the same amount of women and men to work for him. Hardly an evil doer of women.

Yet time and time again, the left shows their complete hypocrisy. Bill Maher when describing Clinton's claims suggest that the women should "take one for the team ... for the good of the country" But today wants people to believe he cares about women? That Kav is guilty as charged? Double standard, as usual. One of Ford's lawyers had this to say about a Bill Clinton accuser,
If a woman came to me with a similar fact pattern, that is someone in the company above her propositioned her but only once and she suffered no tangible job detriment,” Katz said. “I would probably tell her that I’m sorry, it’s unfair, but you don’t have a case.”

In a segment on CNN’s “Talkback Live” in 1998, Katz said Jones’s suit was “very, very, very weak.”

“She’s alleged one incident that took place in a hotel room that, by her own testimony, lasted 10 to 12 minutes. She suffered no repercussions in the workplace, she said, according to CNN transcripts.”

But now that she is defending the alleged victim, she has a much less credible case, and wants everyone to believe the man is guilty. Another person who flip flops depending on who the accused is. Not to mention giving a pass on hard proof of sexual assault because he is a comic. She defends alleged assaulters when they're Dems, does not when they are Repubs. And flips the argument every time.

People dismissing this double standard as "talking points", do so because they do not have a reason why they believe and support one accuser over the other. Why they believe and support one alleged sexual assaulter/rapist over the other. The only reason is they have a bias, and agenda. They don't really give a shit about alleged victims. Keith Ellison is still out there with no repercussions. He was "cleared" by their own (DNC) internal investigation. One small problem with that? Oh just that the firm who investigated donated a substantial amount of money to Dems. 500k. But that is no problem for all these people who claim Kav is guilty and the Repubs were just trying to force him onto the court. More double standards.

I've said this before, and people don't like to hear it. Out of all of these protesters who want Kav thrown out and claim he is guilty, my bet is most of them voted for Bill Clinton, twice. Then for Hillary Clinton. They go to see them speak, they support them in every way. If they "believe all women" they would have believed the accusers of Bill Clinton. They would have had the same outrage against him. But like so many where, they don't and they didn't. Their false outrage is just that, false. Its clear to see right through. You can't give some people a pass and others not, when you claim to believe all women. Especially when one has vast more evidence against them. Not that lefties actually care about equal treatment. I am sure this will fall on deaf ears, or I will be slammed yet against for posting truths they don't want to hear. Thats ok, its clear that some Dems dont give a flying fuck about women, and their sexual assault claims. But keep on showing your willful deceit and falsehoods. Being part of the problem as usual. Their hypocrisy and position will not change, and its grown tiresome going 'round and 'round with these types of people.
 

fskimospy

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I am and was in favor of Justice Kavanaugh, I don't want him to get the "leftist" or anyone else. The "leftist" have done plenty of damage to themselves with no help from anyone else.

Justice Kavanaugh is only one of nine justices on the court. He has his opinions just as you do and so does the other eight justices on the court. I don't think he will be making any changes by himself.

Have you always agreed with every opinion of the left leaning justices?

Who cares if he is making changes by himself or not? You either agree with his opinions or you dont. If you do then he’s a good thing, if you don’t then he’s bad.

I suspect on most of the issues he will likely rule on going forward even the conservatives on this board will disagree. Again, do you think net neutrality is unconstitutional? Do you think corporations should be able to force all their customers into arbitration? Things like that.

If you guys took away the political sports team jersey and actually looked as his rulings you would probably think he was bad.
 

fskimospy

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Just to recap a few facts:

Ford does not remember;
-What day it happened
-What month in happened
-What year it happened
-Where it happened
-How she got there
-How she got home
-Who was there
-Has zero corroborating witnesses
-Alleged witnesses have zero knowledge of the incident
-Some even flat out refute it
-Won't turn over evidence that she was trying to use against Kav, shrink notes. Pelosi wants to get the FBI notes and show the world, but not these. Whodathunk that?
-Didn't know who paid for the poly
-Claims to not be politically motivated and did not want to come forward yet got a lawyer and had a poly months ago
-So much more but tired of spelling out the obvious

How is someone supposed to defend themselves from this? It is so open ended nobody can. Every woman (person actually) should be heard. If it was just a woman's word against a man's, I would believe the woman just about every time. Yet when you take into account all the other evidence, or lack of it this case simply doesnt stand up. Not a single woman who worked with Kav the entire career that spanned decades claims anything, and they support him. He has hired virtually the same amount of women and men to work for him. Hardly an evil doer of women.

Yet time and time again, the left shows their complete hypocrisy. Bill Maher when describing Clinton's claims suggest that the women should "take one for the team ... for the good of the country" But today wants people to believe he cares about women? That Kav is guilty as charged? Double standard, as usual. One of Ford's lawyers had this to say about a Bill Clinton accuser,

But now that she is defending the alleged victim, she has a much less credible case, and wants everyone to believe the man is guilty. Another person who flip flops depending on who the accused is. Not to mention giving a pass on hard proof of sexual assault because he is a comic. She defends alleged assaulters when they're Dems, does not when they are Repubs. And flips the argument every time.

People dismissing this double standard as "talking points", do so because they do not have a reason why they believe and support one accuser over the other. Why they believe and support one alleged sexual assaulter/rapist over the other. The only reason is they have a bias, and agenda. They don't really give a shit about alleged victims. Keith Ellison is still out there with no repercussions. He was "cleared" by their own (DNC) internal investigation. One small problem with that? Oh just that the firm who investigated donated a substantial amount of money to Dems. 500k. But that is no problem for all these people who claim Kav is guilty and the Repubs were just trying to force him onto the court. More double standards.

I've said this before, and people don't like to hear it. Out of all of these protesters who want Kav thrown out and claim he is guilty, my bet is most of them voted for Bill Clinton, twice. Then for Hillary Clinton. They go to see them speak, they support them in every way. If they "believe all women" they would have believed the accusers of Bill Clinton. They would have had the same outrage against him. But like so many where, they don't and they didn't. Their false outrage is just that, false. Its clear to see right through. You can't give some people a pass and others not, when you claim to believe all women. Especially when one has vast more evidence against them. Not that lefties actually care about equal treatment. I am sure this will fall on deaf ears, or I will be slammed yet against for posting truths they don't want to hear. Thats ok, its clear that some Dems dont give a flying fuck about women, and their sexual assault claims. But keep on showing your willful deceit and falsehoods. Being part of the problem as usual. Their hypocrisy and position will not change, and its grown tiresome going 'round and 'round with these types of people.

Dude this rant is absolutely insane. Are you okay?

You’re continuing to conflat a legal standard of winning in court with the standard necessary for a job interview. They aren’t even remotely the same thing and Kavanaugh’s behavior is immediately disqualifying to any objective person.

Here is what we know:

1) this accusation comes from things Ford has related to people going back at least six years. Its existence is absolutely certainly not politically motivated.

2) when confronted with this accusation Kavanaugh made a large number of false or misleading statements under oath. People from throughout his life who knew him personally have attested to this.

3) Kavanaugh has also made a number of other false or misleading statements under oath, specifically about the receipt of criminally obtained documents.

You can totally ignore Ford, she doesn’t matter. Kavanaugh’s behavior alone should tank him. You may be comfortable with judges who lie under oath but you can’t expect the rest of us to be. That’s not rational.
 
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dank69

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Oct 6, 2009
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Just to recap a few facts:

Ford does not remember;
-What day it happened
-What month in happened
-What year it happened
-Where it happened
-How she got there
-How she got home
-Who was there
-Has zero corroborating witnesses
-Alleged witnesses have zero knowledge of the incident
-Some even flat out refute it
-Won't turn over evidence that she was trying to use against Kav, shrink notes. Pelosi wants to get the FBI notes and show the world, but not these. Whodathunk that?
-Didn't know who paid for the poly
-Claims to not be politically motivated and did not want to come forward yet got a lawyer and had a poly months ago
-So much more but tired of spelling out the obvious

How is someone supposed to defend themselves from this? It is so open ended nobody can. Every woman (person actually) should be heard. If it was just a woman's word against a man's, I would believe the woman just about every time. Yet when you take into account all the other evidence, or lack of it this case simply doesnt stand up. Not a single woman who worked with Kav the entire career that spanned decades claims anything, and they support him. He has hired virtually the same amount of women and men to work for him. Hardly an evil doer of women.

Yet time and time again, the left shows their complete hypocrisy. Bill Maher when describing Clinton's claims suggest that the women should "take one for the team ... for the good of the country" But today wants people to believe he cares about women? That Kav is guilty as charged? Double standard, as usual. One of Ford's lawyers had this to say about a Bill Clinton accuser,

But now that she is defending the alleged victim, she has a much less credible case, and wants everyone to believe the man is guilty. Another person who flip flops depending on who the accused is. Not to mention giving a pass on hard proof of sexual assault because he is a comic. She defends alleged assaulters when they're Dems, does not when they are Repubs. And flips the argument every time.

People dismissing this double standard as "talking points", do so because they do not have a reason why they believe and support one accuser over the other. Why they believe and support one alleged sexual assaulter/rapist over the other. The only reason is they have a bias, and agenda. They don't really give a shit about alleged victims. Keith Ellison is still out there with no repercussions. He was "cleared" by their own (DNC) internal investigation. One small problem with that? Oh just that the firm who investigated donated a substantial amount of money to Dems. 500k. But that is no problem for all these people who claim Kav is guilty and the Repubs were just trying to force him onto the court. More double standards.

I've said this before, and people don't like to hear it. Out of all of these protesters who want Kav thrown out and claim he is guilty, my bet is most of them voted for Bill Clinton, twice. Then for Hillary Clinton. They go to see them speak, they support them in every way. If they "believe all women" they would have believed the accusers of Bill Clinton. They would have had the same outrage against him. But like so many where, they don't and they didn't. Their false outrage is just that, false. Its clear to see right through. You can't give some people a pass and others not, when you claim to believe all women. Especially when one has vast more evidence against them. Not that lefties actually care about equal treatment. I am sure this will fall on deaf ears, or I will be slammed yet against for posting truths they don't want to hear. Thats ok, its clear that some Dems dont give a flying fuck about women, and their sexual assault claims. But keep on showing your willful deceit and falsehoods. Being part of the problem as usual. Their hypocrisy and position will not change, and its grown tiresome going 'round and 'round with these types of people.
For every party you ever attended I'd like to know: What day, month, year did you go and how did you get there and how did you get home?
 

umbrella39

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Dude this rant is absolutely insane. Are you okay?

You’re continuing to conflat a legal standard of winning in court with the standard necessary for a job interview. They aren’t even remotely the same thing and Kavanaugh’s behavior is immediately disqualifying to any objective person.

Here is what we know:

1) this accusation comes from things Ford has related to people going back at least six years. Its existence is absolutely certainly not politically motivated.

2) when confronted with this accusation Kavanaugh made a large number of false or misleading statements under oath. People from throughout his life who knew him personally have attested to this.

3) Kavanaugh has also made a number of other false or misleading statements under oath, specifically about the receipt of criminally obtained documents.

You can totally ignore Ford, she doesn’t matter. Kavanaugh’s behavior alone should tank him. You may be comfortable with judges who lie under oath but you can’t expect the rest of us to be. That’s not rational.


Can you imagine the meltdowns we'd be reading today had one GOP senator grown a set and this nomination got help up?

Holy shit...
 

Sunburn74

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Oct 5, 2009
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Just to recap a few facts:

Ford does not remember;
-What day it happened
-What month in happened
-What year it happened
-Where it happened
-How she got there
-How she got home
-Who was there
-Has zero corroborating witnesses
-Alleged witnesses have zero knowledge of the incident
-Some even flat out refute it
-Won't turn over evidence that she was trying to use against Kav, shrink notes. Pelosi wants to get the FBI notes and show the world, but not these. Whodathunk that?
-Didn't know who paid for the poly
-Claims to not be politically motivated and did not want to come forward yet got a lawyer and had a poly months ago
-So much more but tired of spelling out the obvious

How is someone supposed to defend themselves from this? It is so open ended nobody can. Every woman (person actually) should be heard. If it was just a woman's word against a man's, I would believe the woman just about every time. Yet when you take into account all the other evidence, or lack of it this case simply doesnt stand up. Not a single woman who worked with Kav the entire career that spanned decades claims anything, and they support him. He has hired virtually the same amount of women and men to work for him. Hardly an evil doer of women.

Yet time and time again, the left shows their complete hypocrisy. Bill Maher when describing Clinton's claims suggest that the women should "take one for the team ... for the good of the country" But today wants people to believe he cares about women? That Kav is guilty as charged? Double standard, as usual. One of Ford's lawyers had this to say about a Bill Clinton accuser,

But now that she is defending the alleged victim, she has a much less credible case, and wants everyone to believe the man is guilty. Another person who flip flops depending on who the accused is. Not to mention giving a pass on hard proof of sexual assault because he is a comic. She defends alleged assaulters when they're Dems, does not when they are Repubs. And flips the argument every time.

People dismissing this double standard as "talking points", do so because they do not have a reason why they believe and support one accuser over the other. Why they believe and support one alleged sexual assaulter/rapist over the other. The only reason is they have a bias, and agenda. They don't really give a shit about alleged victims. Keith Ellison is still out there with no repercussions. He was "cleared" by their own (DNC) internal investigation. One small problem with that? Oh just that the firm who investigated donated a substantial amount of money to Dems. 500k. But that is no problem for all these people who claim Kav is guilty and the Repubs were just trying to force him onto the court. More double standards.

I've said this before, and people don't like to hear it. Out of all of these protesters who want Kav thrown out and claim he is guilty, my bet is most of them voted for Bill Clinton, twice. Then for Hillary Clinton. They go to see them speak, they support them in every way. If they "believe all women" they would have believed the accusers of Bill Clinton. They would have had the same outrage against him. But like so many where, they don't and they didn't. Their false outrage is just that, false. Its clear to see right through. You can't give some people a pass and others not, when you claim to believe all women. Especially when one has vast more evidence against them. Not that lefties actually care about equal treatment. I am sure this will fall on deaf ears, or I will be slammed yet against for posting truths they don't want to hear. Thats ok, its clear that some Dems dont give a flying fuck about women, and their sexual assault claims. But keep on showing your willful deceit and falsehoods. Being part of the problem as usual. Their hypocrisy and position will not change, and its grown tiresome going 'round and 'round with these types of people.
An alleged sexual assault by 3 women is generally disqualifying for most jobs regardless of whether all of them are true or not.
I assure if, if I was applying for any job in my field and 3 such stories hit the newspapers, I would not get it and they would look at other candidates and even in my current job, I would probably lose it.
I can't comment on your statements about the treatment of the clinton women by voters. I wasn't even in this country at the time. Times were also different then. This is a time where such things are not tolerated and its hard to say clinton would have survived his own party in today's environment (Al Franken resigned remember).
Your argument with Ford is mostly preying in the fact that sexual assault often happens between two people, generally isn't recorded or witnessed and leaves the person with shame, distrust, and deep emotional scars that makes the victim try and hide it particularly when it's someone they know or trust. The lady needed and got therapy for it after the fact for god's sake.

Anyway shame on the GOP and shame on you for not doing the morally decent thing of saying "people elected to the highest court" (or the presidency for that matter) should generally not have more than 1 woman accusing them of sexual misconduct. If you're all in a tizzy about Clinton's sexual misconduct why aren't you about trumps? Because you don't actually care about human decency, morals and ethics. In fact, as long as people are still shooting and the country is being run by white men, you're perfectly happy. All I can say for sure is after watching this Kavanaugh fellow I'm pretty sure had he should not gotten the nomination, and that he's a spoiled rich white guy with a temperament that the world owes him certain things. In addition, its quite clear had the nomination fell through that he'd have lost his old job (and even his on the side kid coaching stuff as well) as well because the ABA was rapidly moving against him with multiple pending investigations of the accusations (unlike the sham investigation congress cobbled together) and concerns about inability to continue functioning impartially. That's your fine and upstanding guy: not even qualified to be a normal judge or a kid sport team coach but good enough for the SCOTUS.
 
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Can you imagine the meltdowns we'd be reading today had one GOP senator grown a set and this nomination got help up?

Holy shit...
Not really, President Trump would just have just nominated one of his other choices for the Kennedy seat. (Thomas Hardiman, Raymond Kethledge, Amul Thapar or Amy Barrett) We'd have until the election before moving onto a new advise and consent process and have the choice confirmed before Christmas. It would be a delay and a pain in the ass, but it would have been done.
 
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An alleged sexual assault by 3 women is generally disqualifying for most jobs regardless of whether all of them are true or not.
I assure if, if I was applying for any job in my field and 3 such stories hit the newspapers, I would not get it and they would look at other candidates and even in my current job, I would probably lose it.
I can't comment on your statements about the treatment of the clinton women by voters. Times were also different then. This is a time where such things are not tolerated and its hard to say clinton would have survived his own party in today's environment (Al Franken resigned remember).
Your argument with Ford is mostly preying in the fact that sexual assault often happens between two people, generally isn't recorded or witnessed and leaves the person with shame, distrust, and deep emotional scars. The lady needed and got therapy for it after the fact for god's sake.

Anyway shame on the GOP and shame on you for not doing the morally decent thing of saying "people elected to the highest court" should generally not have more than 1 woman accusing them of sexual misconduct.
Too bad for you guys that only one of them had even minimum credibility and Dr. Ford lacked any corroborating witnesses and had some questionable dodges herself.
 

Sunburn74

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Too bad for you guys that only one of them had even minimum credibility and Dr. Ford lacked any corroborating witnesses and had some questionable dodges herself.
All the kids raped by catholic priests were raped in secret with no corroborating witnesses to each individual rape.
Only morons like yourself think you first get a bunch of cameras together, a few journalists, perhaps a novelist or two, a ton of your close friends and then rape someone so its perfectly recorded.
 

umbrella39

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Not really, President Trump would just have just nominated one of his other choices for the Kennedy seat. (Thomas Hardiman, Raymond Kethledge, Amul Thapar or Amy Barrett) We'd have until the election before moving onto a new advise and consent process and have the choice confirmed before Christmas. It would be a delay and a pain in the ass, but it would have been done.

I'm not suggesting he wouldn't have. Just pointed out the obvious that even when some score a "victory" they still freak out... Worse in some cases had they lost... It's odd an odd soapbox to climb up onto imo...
 

Sinsear

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I'm glad you couldn't shoot a rockl if our lives depended on it, because you're probably the dude that shot and murdered Pat Tillman, you careless, shitty Marine, you.

If your verbal logic is anything like your brainless "acquire target and murder" logic, then the US has already lost.

I only hope that you do the needful, because you are woefully incapable of defending this country, asshole. Such a pathetic excuse of human, wholly incapable of using his weapon in defense of his actually country: just wants to murder browns and liberals...but hey, who cares about boundaries. just murder them all. they all look the same to Akmed.

The survivors will be raped, so says, Akmed's Christian God. All bow to Akmed's new rape god, because he loves the rape, and the murder, of US citizens and women.

So sayeth Akmed, and let it be known, that Akmed loves the raping of women. ...and quite possibly grenading babies, because here comes Taj, who shines his teeth off of baby limbs, ATP&N's proudest baby-grenader...sharing fingers and limbs and a pho made out of baby tendons, because that's what they eat.
baby foo0d.

fucking psychos.

This is simply over the line.

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I’ve been banned for less.

No, you've incurred an automatic vacation based on accumulated active points, the exact same as just happened to zinfamous.

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Fenixgoon

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something hit me the other day with everyone complaining about how Ford can't remember all the details.

do you have childhood memories? yes? well how do we know you're not making them up? ohhhh right, you aren't.

so something this traumatic, even from years ago, is incredibly unlikely to be fabricated for this and so many other already stated reasons. i can absolutely tell you there are events from 20 years ago, from when i was a kid, that i remember with great clarity - i can still paint the scene. do i know the day? no. the month? no. the time of the year? no. but i can absolutely tell you that it happened, and this is no different.
 

HomerJS

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Ford's huge error was not officially reporting the assault back immediately after it took place.
To police, to college officials, to someone anyone that would end up with an official record on file.
Huge HUGE mistake.

Obama's huge mistake was not appointing his nominee, Garland, during the recess as an recess appointment.
Huge mistake. HUGE.

Democrats huge mistake, not playing the game dirty like republicans play the game.
I mean down right ruthless, take no prisoners, stab em in the back ruthless.
Sure... democrats have this belief that they should never stoop so low as republicans, and look where that has gotten democrats.
Deer in the headlights.

Obama was far too "nice" and so damn very naive.
Democrats paid a huge price for Obama's lack of experience.
Now today, that lack of experience or whatever Obama lacked plus his being so naive has cost democrats a tremendous price.
A price that could cost democrats many future elections including the Whitehouse for decades to come.
But what is one to do?
Time to move on....
pretty much. Obama tried to act like a responsible grown-up and got burned by it. Time for Democrats to play dirtier.
 

HomerJS

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Just to recap a few facts:

Ford does not remember;
-What day it happened
-What month in happened
-What year it happened
-Where it happened
-How she got there
-How she got home
-Who was there
-Has zero corroborating witnesses
-Alleged witnesses have zero knowledge of the incident
-Some even flat out refute it
-Won't turn over evidence that she was trying to use against Kav, shrink notes. Pelosi wants to get the FBI notes and show the world, but not these. Whodathunk that?
-Didn't know who paid for the poly
-Claims to not be politically motivated and did not want to come forward yet got a lawyer and had a poly months ago
-So much more but tired of spelling out the obvious

How is someone supposed to defend themselves from this? It is so open ended nobody can. Every woman (person actually) should be heard. If it was just a woman's word against a man's, I would believe the woman just about every time. Yet when you take into account all the other evidence, or lack of it this case simply doesnt stand up. Not a single woman who worked with Kav the entire career that spanned decades claims anything, and they support him. He has hired virtually the same amount of women and men to work for him. Hardly an evil doer of women.

Yet time and time again, the left shows their complete hypocrisy. Bill Maher when describing Clinton's claims suggest that the women should "take one for the team ... for the good of the country" But today wants people to believe he cares about women? That Kav is guilty as charged? Double standard, as usual. One of Ford's lawyers had this to say about a Bill Clinton accuser,

But now that she is defending the alleged victim, she has a much less credible case, and wants everyone to believe the man is guilty. Another person who flip flops depending on who the accused is. Not to mention giving a pass on hard proof of sexual assault because he is a comic. She defends alleged assaulters when they're Dems, does not when they are Repubs. And flips the argument every time.

People dismissing this double standard as "talking points", do so because they do not have a reason why they believe and support one accuser over the other. Why they believe and support one alleged sexual assaulter/rapist over the other. The only reason is they have a bias, and agenda. They don't really give a shit about alleged victims. Keith Ellison is still out there with no repercussions. He was "cleared" by their own (DNC) internal investigation. One small problem with that? Oh just that the firm who investigated donated a substantial amount of money to Dems. 500k. But that is no problem for all these people who claim Kav is guilty and the Repubs were just trying to force him onto the court. More double standards.

I've said this before, and people don't like to hear it. Out of all of these protesters who want Kav thrown out and claim he is guilty, my bet is most of them voted for Bill Clinton, twice. Then for Hillary Clinton. They go to see them speak, they support them in every way. If they "believe all women" they would have believed the accusers of Bill Clinton. They would have had the same outrage against him. But like so many where, they don't and they didn't. Their false outrage is just that, false. Its clear to see right through. You can't give some people a pass and others not, when you claim to believe all women. Especially when one has vast more evidence against them. Not that lefties actually care about equal treatment. I am sure this will fall on deaf ears, or I will be slammed yet against for posting truths they don't want to hear. Thats ok, its clear that some Dems dont give a flying fuck about women, and their sexual assault claims. But keep on showing your willful deceit and falsehoods. Being part of the problem as usual. Their hypocrisy and position will not change, and its grown tiresome going 'round and 'round with these types of people.
I could sketch a detailed layout of the ICU of St. Peters Hospital in New Brunswick I can do that because back in 2006 the family had to make a life ending decision

However I can't remember what floor the ICU is on. Does that mean you can claim the rest of my story didn't happen??
 
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Lanyap

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I watched the CNN interview of her and she was directly asked if she was paid by Soros or somebody else. Her response seemed to indicate that she was.



I've been researching interviews with Archila and she is inconsistent with the details of her assault. She said the molestation occurred in daycare when she was 5 years and still in Columbia. In multiple interviews she said she did not tell anyone until the Flake elevator confrontation. In other interviews she said she told her mother when she was 15. Off course since this happened in Columbia 34 years ago there is no way to verify anything. The two women conveniently had a CNN cameraman following them when they confronted Flake.

Based on her wiki it appears she has been involved in liberal activist organizations for most if not all of her adult life.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ana_Maria_Archila

And this.
https://nypost.com/2018/10/01/look-who-was-behind-the-jeff-flake-elevator-setup/
Ana Maria Archila and Maria Gallagher were the two women who confronted Flake inside the elevator. Perhaps because they expressed such raw emotion, few media outlets dug into their political activism. Archila is an executive director of the Center for Popular Democracy; she had spent the previous week in Washington engaged in protests against Kavanaugh. Gallagher is a 23-year-old activist with the group. The center is a left-wing group heavily funded by George Soros’ Open Society Foundations. Indeed, as of 2014, Open Society was one of the three largest donors to the group.

Make no mistake. The Center for Popular Democracy is at the heart of the effort to stop Kavanaugh. A source forwarded to me an email sent from the organization: “Last week, you saw protestors interrupting the Kavanaugh hearings, trying to slow it down and show the Judiciary Committee how much they/we care. Those protests were organized by the Women’s March and the Center for Popular Democracy and other groups.”

Archila has another role beyond her duties as co–executive director of the center. She is also a member of the national committee of the New York-based Working Families Party. The WFP was founded in 1998 by the leaders of ACORN, the now-disbanded and disgraced group of community organizers.
 

sao123

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I could sketch a detailed layout of the ICU of St. Peters Hospital in New Brunswick I can do that because back in 2006 the family had to make a life ending decision

However I can't remember what floor the ICU is on. Does that mean you can claim the rest of my story didn't happen??

well that depends... do you also forget
What year it was, what day it was, what street it was on, the name of the hospital, the 4 other people in the room with you (do they say they were never there?) and a whole bunch of other relevant data from that day?
 

Lanyap

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For every party you ever attended I'd like to know: What day, month, year did you go and how did you get there and how did you get home?


This was not just every party. It was unique because of the assault that she will never forget. She said it dogged her from then on throughout her life. I would think she would have at least documented somewhere, somehow about the details in case she want to press charges in the future. She still has not filed an official criminal report anywhere. She should have done that at least by 2012 when she first started talking about it.
 
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This was not just every party. It was unique because of the assault that she will never forget. She said it dogged her from then on throughout her life. I would think she would have at least documented somewhere, somehow about the details in case she want to press charges in the future. She still has not filed an official criminal report anywhere. She should have done that at least by 2012 when she first started talking about it.
Yes, i can easily remember the parties where big things happened. First date, first kiss, first fumbling encounter, first sexual experience etc. It's pretty tough to me that she couldn't even narrow it down to a year or even month or where it happened. Without that information there was no way that Judge Kavanaugh could provide an alibi............... as I think was deliberately intended.
 

Sunburn74

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Yes, i can easily remember the parties where big things happened. First date, first kiss, first fumbling encounter, first sexual experience etc. It's pretty tough to me that she couldn't even narrow it down to a year or even month or where it happened. Without that information there was no way that Judge Kavanaugh could provide an alibi............... as I think was deliberately intended.
I remember being beaten up in quite a few fights. Don't remember the month or years. Certainly remember the guy who did it. Not really sure what your point is.
 
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