Kavanaugh SCOTUS Senate Judicial Hearing

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pcgeek11

Lifer
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Selective memory?

What about his purgery under oath?

What about Debbie Ramirez and multiple witnesses to that account?

Not that you care.. you just wanna say you won, we lost. But on what exactly? Nothing has passed the house, senate except tax cuts for the rich?

And last I checked.. judges are incredibly corrupt.. just take any family court.. they ignore evidence and just decide cases on whims. I thought SCOTUS would have a higher bar but nope.. more of the same.

What purgery under oath? Be specific.

Debbie Ramirez, nothing credible was found. What witnesses? Be specific.

I really don't care what you think. You are blinded by the wickedness of the democrats.
 

cytg111

Lifer
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So just because you understand the life and trials of someone that was raped, everybody that is accused of molesting is guilty even in the face of no witnesses or any evidence whatsoever. That is some stretch. And you call me fucked up.

Maybe one day you will be the proud recipient of a false accusation. Then you can really show your support. Maybe you could even quit your career and confess the crime even though you didn't do it. That would really help the cause.

No? I never deal in absolutes! - with the exception being my love for my girls.
I do not state anything 100%, what I AM SAYING, is that it is not uncommon for "Fords" to be silent! THAT IS ALL I AM SAYING. Jesus fucking christ numbnuts.
 

fskimospy

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momeNt

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If this whole ordeal isn't Justice Thomas all over again I don't know what is.

The democrats have learned nothing. Using women for their disgusting political ends.

And from my standpoint as a black American, as far as I'm concerned, it is a high-tech lynching for uppity blacks who in any way deign to think for themselves, to do for themselves, to have different ideas, and it is a message that unless you kowtow to an old order, this is what will happen to you. You will be lynched, destroyed, caricatured by a committee of the U.S. -- U.S. Senate, rather than hung from a tree.
 

cytg111

Lifer
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If this whole ordeal isn't Justice Thomas all over again I don't know what is.

The democrats have learned nothing. Using women for their disgusting political ends.

Your fucking problem is that most of western society has had this shit impact their life one way or the other AND its voting season... time to fucking die weasels.
 
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Selective memory?

What about his purgery under oath?

What about Debbie Ramirez and multiple witnesses to that account?

Not that you care.. you just wanna say you won, we lost. But on what exactly? Nothing has passed the house, senate except tax cuts for the rich?

And last I checked.. judges are incredibly corrupt.. just take any family court.. they ignore evidence and just decide cases on whims. I thought SCOTUS would have a higher bar but nope.. more of the same.
Tell us about the "purgery" under oath. Can you link them?

No corroborating witnesses to the Ramirez claim. NONE. ZERO. ZIP. NADA. Even after dozens of people were interviewed by the media.
 
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fskimospy

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If this whole ordeal isn't Justice Thomas all over again I don't know what is.

The democrats have learned nothing. Using women for their disgusting political ends.

I do agree it is Thomas all over again in that the women accusing this individual of misconduct are credible and Republicans are trying to smear them and kick up a shit storm because they care more about their tribe than they do about seating quality justices on the Supreme Court. There's no question to any reasonable observer that Kavanaugh was totally unqualified for the position from a personal character standpoint, a truthfulness standpoint, or a tempermental standpoint. Hell, even when he was apologizing for his ludicrous statements in the committee he was being disingenuous, painting them as a product of anger in the moment when they were in fact part of his prepared remarks.

It's a total shit show. If you have any suggestions on how to get conservatives to put the country before their party I would love to hear them because we badly need that right now.
 

momeNt

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I do agree it is Thomas all over again in that the women accusing this individual of misconduct are credible and Republicans are trying to smear them and kick up a shit storm because they care more about their tribe than they do about seating quality justices on the Supreme Court. There's no question to any reasonable observer that Kavanaugh was totally unqualified for the position from a personal character standpoint, a truthfulness standpoint, or a tempermental standpoint. Hell, even when he was apologizing for his ludicrous statements in the committee he was being disingenuous, painting them as a product of anger in the moment when they were in fact part of his prepared remarks.

It's a total shit show. If you have any suggestions on how to get conservatives to put the country before their party I would love to hear them because we badly need that right now.

It would probably start with not trotting out women who cannot provide evidence to support their accusations. That immediately makes defenses go up, makes conservatives feel as if they were in the right all along, and stifles any future discussion on the person in question's character.
 

fskimospy

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It would probably start with not trotting out women who cannot provide evidence to support their accusations. That immediately makes defenses go up, makes conservatives feel as if they were in the right all along, and stifles any future discussion on the person in question's character.

This is a pretty common response. Whenever conservatives are doing something they know is wrong and indefensible they accuse liberals of making them do it. Conservatives CHOSE to nominate this person. Conservatives CHOSE to limit the investigations into his conduct. Conservatives CHOSE to confirm him. It is their responsibility and theirs alone. The first step would seem to be that conservatives need to take responsibility for their own actions instead of blaming liberals for everything. You guys are adults that have agency, if you're really saying that liberals doing something mean to you makes you act wildly and uncontrollably unethical then doesn't it stand to reason you aren't fit to hold power?

As for your idea more generally as woolfe mentioned before this basically means that no one who does not immediately report a sexual assault can ever bring an accusation against their assailant, ever, as sexual assaults are nearly always done in private. Does that seem like a smart standard to you?
 

Moonbeam

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Innocent until proven guilty.

Thanks for supporting smearing an innocent family in the pigsty that the democratic party has become.

You mean the pigsty that used the pretext of innocent until proven guilty, then did everything in their power to suppress any possibility of verifying the claims of guilt from ever seeing the light of day? The swine, Horatio, is not in the Democrats, but in yourself. Yours is a moral corruption so self inverted and vicious, you are incapable of seeing yourselves. In the hearings we saw not a judge, but a sniveling snuffing teenager of privilege lamenting his fate having been called to the task of facing the consequences of his black out youth and his love of beer as evidence of his judicial temperament. Now we have two oinkers on the Supreme Court, boars who decide who will be allowed to the trough.

Not to worry though. I am sure in time the Ford family will get fewer death threats and resume some greater semblance of normal life. Meanwhile your cult has managed to trhow more pig manure on the honor of this once great nation. Sorry about how morally damaged you were forced to be that you lost the capacity for self honesty and needed to join a disgusting cult to have any sense of self respect. You can thank the culture you grew up in for that. It's not your fault you had to become a self loathing Zombie.
 
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brycejones

Lifer
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This is a pretty common response. Whenever conservatives are doing something they know is wrong and indefensible they accuse liberals of making them do it. Conservatives CHOSE to nominate this person. Conservatives CHOSE to limit the investigations into his conduct. Conservatives CHOSE to confirm him. It is their responsibility and theirs alone. The first step would seem to be that conservatives need to take responsibility for their own actions instead of blaming liberals for everything. You guys are adults that have agency, if you're really saying that liberals doing something mean to you makes you act wildly and uncontrollably unethical then doesn't it stand to reason you aren't fit to hold power?

As for your idea more generally as woolfe mentioned before this basically means that no one who does not immediately report a sexual assault can ever bring an accusation against their assailant, ever, as sexual assaults are nearly always done in private. Does that seem like a smart standard to you?

The Democrats forced them to make those choices because they didn't agree with the GOP. The GOP is the real victim here.
 
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brycejones

Lifer
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The truth was already known.
He is innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. There was no evidence to support her claims. The people she claimed were present don't back her story, not even her best friend.

I feel sorry for her. I do think she was compromised at some point in her life which is sad. It is even sadder that the democrats screwed her too by dragging her into the light by leaking to the press. Her lawyers screwed her again by telling lies (she cannot fly and withholding the fact that the Senate would have come to her for a statement). She wanted to remain in the shadows but no the democrats did this to her.

He "appeared" to have lied? What does that even mean? You think he "May Have" not been totally honest about how much he drank. What you are calling lies are just subjective opinions about how much beer he drank. Most normal people don't give a rats ass how much beer he drank in High School or College.

The democrats were not interested in the truth. They only wanted to drag this out past the election in hopes of preventing his appointment. And it blew up in their collective faces and I am glad of it.

Keep on melting dude.

Where am I melting down? You are desperately responding with walls of fact free nonsense to anyone who dares to not agree with you.

Just another day that ends in 'y' for pcgeek11 being dishonest and projecting his emotions on others.
 

fskimospy

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You mean the pigsty that used the pretext of innocent until proven guilty, then did everything in their power to suppress any possibility of verifying the claims of guilt from ever seeing the light of day? The swine, Horatio, is not in the Democrats, but in yourself. Yours is a moral corruption so self inverted and vicious, you are incapable of seeing yourselves. In the hearings we saw not a judge, but a sniveling snuffing teenager of privilege lamenting his fate having been called to the task of facing the consequences of his black out youth and his love of beer as evidence of his judicial temperament. Now we have two oinkers on the Supreme Court, boars who decide who will be allowed to the trough.

Not to worry though. I am sure in time the Ford family will get fewer death threats and resume some greater semblance of normal life. Meanwhile your cult has managed to trhow more pig manure on the honor of this once great nation. Sorry about how morally damaged you were forced to be that you lost the capacity for self honesty and needed to join a disgusting cult to have any sense of self respect. You can thank the culture you grew up in for that. It's not your fault you had to become a self loathing Zombie.

I’m still trying to imagine what these guys think a job interview actually entails.

Interviewer: we just got a report that you were involved in a sex crime a number of years back.

Pcgeek: innocent until proven guilty!

Interviewer: goodbye.
 
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Moonbeam

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I’m still trying to imagine what these guys think a job interview actually entails.

Interviewer: we just got a report that you were involved in a sex crime a number of years back.

Pcgeek: innocent until proven guilty!

Interviewer: goodbye.
The same inability to think rationally in differentiating between a criminal trial and a job interview is as you well know a talent conservatives, especially those with Trump cult disease, poses in spades, is the result of having been powerfully conditioned as children by shaming them for any deviate from their the bigotries their birth culture is infected with, and to a degree such that they become powerfully armored against anything that would ever cause then to feel that shame again. The only safe place for the emotionally tortured is to be emotionally dead.

This is why you are for them such a powerful threat and receive the same scorn that was heaped on them as children. They so much want you to suffer as they do.
 
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