Flake said at least to delay until they hear more so it seems as of this moment there aren’t enough votes to confirm.
Flake said at least to delay until they hear more so it seems as of this moment there aren’t enough votes to confirm.
Flake said at least to delay until they hear more so it seems as of this moment there aren’t enough votes to confirm.
Flake says a lot of things.
Flake knows they can easily confirm a different nominee in the lame duck session. Nothing will be lost from his perspective.
Is this not what the hearings were for? Feinstein chose to sit on this and turned it over to the FBI only due to political pressure. If the FBI chose not to pursue it, what is left to discuss?We will have to see! Regardless it was surely the right decision to wait for more information.
If they lose the Senate, then I think there is a loss in that it makes an even better case for Democrats to just add to the court (then again, Kavanaugh's confirmation is problematic regardless). In addition, if Mueller & Rosenstein don't come with anything before the midterms, what if there's something explosive about Trump afterwards? Right now everyone's just pretending Donnie isn't a felon.
Is this not what the hearings were for? Feinstein chose to sit on this and turned it over to the FBI only due to political pressure. If the FBI chose not to pursue it, what is left to discuss?
All of those things could have happened during the hearings. Feinstein chose to sit on the accusations and we only became aware of the accusations once they inevitably leaked, to devaststing political effect of course.Literally everything about the incident. Like literally everything. The FBI isn’t going to prosecute this as a crime so what are they supposed to do? That’s not the standard for confirmation hearings though. Now the Senate should have days or weeks of work ahead of it. They need to get the accuser in there to testify, they need to get other people who were there to testify, they need to get the therapist in there, etc, etc.
We are talking about someone who will be making permanent, unreviewable court decisions for decades and who will be largely immune from sanction for them. The standard of conduct for someone in that position should be very high, especially when it comes to past criminal conduct.
All of those things could have happened during the hearings. Feinstein chose to sit on the accusations and we only became aware of the accusations once they inevitably leaked, to devaststing political effect of course.
Kavanaugh is not on trial for a crime and there is nothing to prosecute.
But he’s officially Borked. Just a question of who breaks ranks from the GOP, which is really what this is about.
None of us are in a position to judge his moral core, nor should we automatically assert credibility to nth hour accusations. There was a process to evaluate his core along with a body of work related to his career and personal life, not to mention background checks and everything that goes along with it.What it's about is whether he should or shouldn't be Borked, whether he is Supreme Court material at his core. His moral core value has nothing to do with whether he can be prosecuted. A lot of people who are scum never face legal justice. Karma has a much longer arm than the law.
All of those things could have happened during the hearings. Feinstein chose to sit on the accusations and we only became aware of the accusations once they inevitably leaked, to devaststing political effect of course.
Kavanaugh is not on trial for a crime and there is nothing to prosecute.
But he’s officially Borked. Just a question of who breaks ranks from the GOP, which is really what this is about.
You believe in due process according to your view of what is due process. I am not asserting credibility, you are asserting indifference to what due process should include, a fair evaluation of the woman't claims since they go to the core of his character, whether you like it or not. Nobody is in a position to judge his moral core if the question isn't explored and all claims examined for veracity. Judgement, good judgement, requires evidence and the desire to suppress it is clearly in evidence also. So pardon me if I ignore your moral protestations and follow my own lights. I would not want a liberal justice who had attempted rate as a drunken teenager. I think core values are in place before that age. I just want to hear the evidence against him and have it evaluated. Women need to be heard, because we know the historical record of so many who were ignored and shoved aside. Their claims were valid. This one may also be valid, but we need to at least keep an open mind as we find out as much as we can.None of us are in a position to judge his moral core, nor should we automatically assert credibility to nth hour accusations. There was a process to evaluate his core along with a body of work related to his career and personal life, not to mention background checks and everything that goes along with it.
Yes a lot of scum never face justice, but I also believe in due process.
Kavanaugh is a poor candidate for SCOTUS, but not because of these allegations.
YawnOh, God! The injustice of it all! Poor Kavanaugh! Can't even get 51 votes, let alone 60! Because evil Democrats! Traitorous Republicans!
If it turns out that way somebody will be playing the world's tiniest violin, just for you.
Kavanaugh is a poor candidate for SCOTUS, but not because of these allegations.
You've defended both the candidate & the wretched un-American process of McConnell throughout this thread until it looks like Kavanaugh might lose at which point you turn against him...
All of those things could have happened during the hearings. Feinstein chose to sit on the accusations and we only became aware of the accusations once they inevitably leaked, to devaststing political effect of course.
Kavanaugh is not on trial for a crime and there is nothing to prosecute.
But he’s officially Borked. Just a question of who breaks ranks from the GOP, which is really what this is about.
There is only one definition of due process and that is innocent until proven guilty.You believe in due process according to your view of what is due process.
Feinstein seems to have evaluated her claims and found them lacking, hence her decision to sit on the letter. You cannot deny there is some political maneuvering factored into the pursuit of justice.I am not asserting credibility, you are asserting indifference to what due process should include, a fair evaluation of the woman't claims since they go to the core of his character, whether you like it or not.
I think you would find cause to communicate skepticism towards the accuser and empathy for the accused in a politically opposite scenario.I would not want a liberal justice who had attempted rate as a drunken teenager. I think core values are in place before that age. I just want to hear the evidence against him and have it evaluated.
We cannot right the wrongs of the past, and that should not be the justification for automatically considering allegations that are virtually impossible to prove. In situations such as this, patterns of behavior tend to lend credibility to the accusations. If other women start to come forward, that would change my opinion.Women need to be heard, because we know the historical record of so many who were ignored and shoved aside. Their claims were valid. This one may also be valid, but we need to at least keep an open mind as we find out as much as we can.
I did not believe Al Franken needed to step down. I don’t believe Keith Ellison should.You show all kinds of signs to me of a person influenced by ideology. You are not as objective as you believe yourself to be as to what objectivity is, in my opinion. You seem to have this both sides thingi going pretty strong.
All of those things could have happened during the hearings. Feinstein chose to sit on the accusations and we only became aware of the accusations once they inevitably leaked, to devaststing political effect of course.
Kavanaugh is not on trial for a crime and there is nothing to prosecute.
But he’s officially Borked. Just a question of who breaks ranks from the GOP, which is really what this is about.
LOL, the Republicans made damn sure nothing of substance was raised at the "hearings". Now we are starting to see why the Republicans are in such a hurry to ram Kavanough through.Is this not what the hearings were for? Feinstein chose to sit on this and turned it over to the FBI only due to political pressure. If the FBI chose not to pursue it, what is left to discuss?
And if Trump nominated Garland as an olive branch you would still find reason to complainSo persecuted! Merrick Garland was neither a perjurer nor a credibly accused attempted rapist. They wouldn’t even meet with him.