Kavanaugh SCOTUS Senate Judicial Hearing

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HomerJS

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I have no idea and I frankly don’t care. It’s quite clear the republicans knew of the accusation as well so they could have cleared it up then too and chose not to.

The only thing that matters is if it is credible. It is. Therefore we need to get to the bottom of this. It’s not about Feinstein, it’s about Kavanaugh.
It's clear Kavanaugh's people knew this was out there. How could you have a letter ready of 65 women vouching for him back then when he went to an all boys high school? at least his people had the sense not to get 69 signatures.
 

HomerJS

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No, she made notes on someone. She never mentioned him by name according to the story. but hey change it as it's needed.
HIs name wasn't in the original notes but her husband corroborated her story and said she named him in 2012
Ford’s husband, Russell Ford, told The Post that in their 2012 therapy sessions, she recounted the attack and that she used Kavanaugh’s last name and voiced concern that he might one day be nominated to the Supreme Court. Ford also took a polygraph test, administered by a former FBI agent, on the advice of her attorney in early August, the paper said. The test concluded she was being truthful when she said a statement summarizing her allegations was accurate.
 

Jaskalas

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"We need to investigate".

A drunk teenage party 35+ years ago, where NOTHING was said or done at the time. What sort of evidence do you think can exist?
 
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"We need to investigate".

A drunk teenage party 35+ years ago, where NOTHING was said or done at the time. What sort of evidence do you think can exist?
If it's not this one then there will be another one and maybe one after that. Whatever is needed is what the Democrats will do and digging up a fake crime 36 or 37 years later is just an example.
 

UNCjigga

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Not sure if true or not, but smearbots on Twitter are claiming Miss Ford has an ax to grind against Kavanaugh because his mom (also a judge) ruled against her parents in a foreclosure case. This is going to get ugly all around.
 

Moonbeam

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If it's not this one then there will be another one and maybe one after that. Whatever is needed is what the Democrats will do and digging up a fake crime 36 or 37 years later is just an example.
I'm sure if you damaged somebody's life 37 years ago and never faced any consequences you would want that matter brought to light if it could now damage your own life. That's taking personal responsibility and the way to atonement for guilt. Without that you can never ever be real. You really don't know there is a hell?
 
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I'm sure if you damaged somebody's life 37 years ago and never faced any consequences you would want that matter brought to light if it could now damage your own life. That's taking personal responsibility and the way to atonement for guilt. Without that you can never ever be real. You really don't know there is a hell?
Is it a place where people that bear false witness go?
 

fskimospy

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Feinstein is a member of the Senate Judiciary Committee. It was her job and responsibility to get to the bottom of it when the accusations first surfaced and to raise these concerns as part of the hearings that exist for the sole purpose of evaluating a SCOTUS nominee. Her decision not to is relevant to the discussion.

If that is the case then the decision of all the Republicans to similarly not raise these concerns is also relevant to the discussion. If anything, she acted most appropriately of all members of the committee so you should be praising her, not attacking her.

I get how your complaint is that she saved it until the end to delay or derail the nomination. That’s reasonably likely to be true. The thing is the Republicans weren’t going to bring it up at all because Kavanaugh is part of their political sports team. That’s far, far worse.
 

Starbuck1975

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If that is the case then the decision of all the Republicans to similarly not raise these concerns is also relevant to the discussion. If anything, she acted most appropriately of all members of the committee so you should be praising her, not attacking her.

I get how your complaint is that she saved it until the end to delay or derail the nomination. That’s reasonably likely to be true. The thing is the Republicans weren’t going to bring it up at all because Kavanaugh is part of their political sports team. That’s far, far worse.
As I said earlier in the thread, even Ginsburg is on record lamenting the tribalism now surrounding SCOTUS appointments.

I am not going to praise Feinstein for acting only after word leaked out and introduced a threat to her incumbency.

I’ve already called out the GOP members for rushing the vote prior to further discovery on the perjury charges, which I think is the most serious allegation.

Kavanaugh should withdraw because we should hold SCOTUS appointments to a higher standard, and there is now too much taint around his candidacy. I have no interest in Anita Hill 2.0 because we both know it will be all political theater.
 

K1052

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Per her attorney, Christine Ford is willing to testify to the Senate judiciary committee.

More than enough R senators are waffling on the nom to kill it. There will be no red state Democratic votes for confirmation. My advice would be to stop before something truly tragic transpires.
 

HomerJS

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If it's not this one then there will be another one and maybe one after that. Whatever is needed is what the Democrats will do and digging up a fake crime 36 or 37 years later is just an example.
Ladies and gentleman, exhibit A. Most of us fair minded people are not jumping to conclusions and just want this investigated.

Our local Russian bot has already pronounced this woman and her husband liars. Hey Tajy, I guess she lied to her therapist back in 2012 knowing Kavanaugh would be nominated to the SC?
 
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Mike Pence: "I'd be willing to take a lie detector test to prove I didn't write that op-ed."

GOP: "That's good enough for us!"

Christine Blasey Ford: "I've taken a lie detector test, and passed."

GOP: "That's not good enough!"

As stated previously, polygraph tests are a load of bullshit. The inventor said it himself.

And don't call it a "lie detector test"
 

HomerJS

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Per her attorney, Christine Ford is willing to testify to the Senate judiciary committee.

More than enough R senators are waffling on the nom to kill it. There will be no red state Democratic votes for confirmation. My advice would be to stop before something truly tragic transpires.
Magic like a second woman comes forward? That would pretty much kill it.

Republicans have nothing to worry about, Roy Moore is available to take Brett's place.
 

fskimospy

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Magic like a second woman comes forward? That would pretty much kill it.

Republicans have nothing to worry about, Roy Moore is available to take Brett's place.

Whoever would replace Kavanaugh would be a far right pick too, yes. You’ll get most of the same regressive nonsense placing the rights of corporations, etc, above people’s rights no matter who they nominate. The thing is there appears to be a reasonable likelihood that Trump chose Kavanaugh because he thinks he will be a reliable vote to protect him from subpoenas, indictment, etc.

While any justice they nominate is going to be bad for regular people like us, at least a different one might not be as bad for the health of our system of government.
 

zinfamous

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Kavanaugh should get the same treatment he gave to Bill Clinton. His sexual history needs to be examined in every painful detail.

well I mean, it's not like the GOP gives a shit about sexual abusers. Remember Clarence Thomas?
 

compcons

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Democrats and their hypocrisy really have no bounds. Much like racism and bigotry they don't really care about alleged acts Only when it's against people they don't like. Proof? Keith Ellison, who happened to be the DNC deputy chairman. Credibly accused this year, of acts of only 2 years ago, and he still got recently elected. If Dems were really interested in protecting women from alleged acts like this, he would not have been elected and been called out. Except that never happened.

Instead the Dems go back to the old play book and resort to allegations of 3 decades or more, at literally the last second. After sitting on the alleged abuse for months.

Not surprisingly, lots of people here eating it up and claiming guilt with zero proof. That's not the way its supposed to work. And certainly doesn't work when it's a Democrat accused of such things. Again, Keith Ellison. No outrage found by Dems. Just gets a pass like they have been doing to their own for decades.

You decry the Democrats are hypocritical? Really? I will give you just 2 data points without further need to explain. You can cry both sides, but don't EVER pretend to have the high ground. The party of morals and family values of course.

Donald Trump
Roy Moore
 

K1052

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well I mean, it's not like the GOP gives a shit about sexual abusers. Remember Clarence Thomas?

They don't but the political climate is different from then. Trying to publicly tear down this woman will have consequences.
 
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