Kavanaugh SCOTUS Senate Judicial Hearing

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HomerJS

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This is a nasty little episode in the Democrats play file. It began with the borking of Robert Bork and continued with the high tech lynching of Clarence Thomas. There is no foulness, no nastiness and no lie that the Democrats won't stoop to in order to force their way on the process.
Haha. Mr. Tin Foil thinks this woman in 2012 lied to her therapist just so she can stop a SC nominee 6 years later.

Want us to send out a search party to find your marbles?
 
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Haha. Mr. Tin Foil thinks this woman in 2012 lied to her therapist just so she can stop a SC nominee 6 years later.

Want us to send out a search party to find your marbles?
No, she didn't use his name to her therapist. Try to get it right for a change.
 

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This is a nasty little episode in the Democrats play file. It began with the borking of Robert Bork and continued with the high tech lynching of Clarence Thomas. There is no foulness, no nastiness and no lie that the Democrats won't stoop to in order to force their way on the process.


As I said before you go after Democrats consider that the Republicans in concert with the President withheld information and no we have a candidate that has not been vetted properly. Is he suited? Well I can say because my representatives weren't able make an accurate determination.

Foulness, nastiness, lies? That fits the Administration to a T and these Republicans will back anything. Donald Jr with his instagram comment is the perfect likeness of those who hold power-foulness, nastiness and lying? Yes, in spades.

And yes I know what forms partisan actions take and how one can be attacked as some of the Faithful have attempted nonsense with me. And Hillary? Possibly the worst choice the Dems could have made and wait and see if I get shit again for saying that- again.

But this is a serious accusation independent of Republican or Democrat tactics. There is evidence here that needs to be examined, and she nor the American public are beggars. We not only can be choosy, we'll choose in November and matters of foulness and nastiness and lies it is not the Dems who are going to suffer.
 

fskimospy

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No, she didn't use his name to her therapist. Try to get it right for a change.

So in other words you're saying she was indicating assault by ANOTHER official of similar stature to Kavanaugh and then decided when he came up for nomination to use that 6 year old therapy session as part of a partisan attack. lol.

 
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No, what i said is that she didn't name Kavanaugh to her therapist, but lie about it if you like.

So in other words you're saying she was indicating assault by ANOTHER official of similar stature to Kavanaugh and then decided when he came up for nomination to use that 6 year old therapy session as part of a partisan attack. lol.

 

Hayabusa Rider

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She verified his name with her husband back in 2012. But I guess he is part of the cabal as well?

Remember one thing. This is an accusation not proven nor as yet determined to be credible. I have my personal opinions about that however the process needs to be followed. In your example, you say she verified it was Kavanaugh in 2012. Without calling anyone's credibility into account, how do you have a means of verification for this statement? Again that's not in any way calling her a liar, but at the end of the process we as US citizens and our representatives are obligated to pursue this openly in good faith. Whether we collectively live up to our responsibilities is problematic, but it is required.
 

Jhhnn

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It wouldn't have come to this if the GOP hadn't been acting in bad faith since they snubbed Garland, changed the rules & seated Gorsuch. Now they're withholding documents. There's a strong possibility that Kavanaugh may have been less than truthful in sworn testimony. They want Kavanaugh desperately & for all the wrong reasons. They want him precisely because he is the ideologue they're pretending he's not. And he wants it so badly that he'll sacrifice his integrity to have it.

That's what we're dealing with. It's indefensible for the GOP to abuse the system in such a fashion.
 
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It wouldn't have come to this if the GOP hadn't been acting in bad faith since they snubbed Garland, changed the rules & seated Gorsuch. Now they're withholding documents. There's a strong possibility that Kavanaugh may have been less than truthful in sworn testimony. They want Kavanaugh desperately & for all the wrong reasons. They want him precisely because he is the ideologue they're pretending he's not. And he wants it so badly that he'll sacrifice his integrity to have it.

That's what we're dealing with. It's indefensible for the GOP to abuse the system in such a fashion.
You must also blame women after they get raped because they were wearing revealing clothes.
 

K1052

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That was true as soon as Sen Flake said it yesterday. You are a day late and a dollar short again.

Not really, Kavanugh's nomination can be called to the floor by the leader without a committee vote but now that such an attempt would be party line they can only afford to lose one member so it creates a real risk of the confirmation vote failing.
 

fskimospy

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No, what i said is that she didn't name Kavanaugh to her therapist, but lie about it if you like.

The only reason that is relevant is if you believe she and her husband are being untruthful as to who that therapy session was about. Regardless, you've already lied twice now about what my position is on it yet you haven't apologized yet. When can I expect that apology?

I'm not sure why you find it necessary to lie so frequently on this board. You realize it makes your positions look even worse because of your reputation for dishonesty, right?
 

UNCjigga

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I'm of the opinion that Grassley and others wouldn't offer to delay the vote and hold a hearing without some level of confidence that this will end badly for the accuser and Democrats. I'm beginning to understand why Feinstein wasn't willing to bring this up earlier without having authorities look into it first.

If it's a public hearing, Dems need to tread just as carefully as GOP going into midterms. I get the feeling this will be Anita Hill all over again, and could cast a bigger cloud over #MeToo than Asia Argento.
 
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I'm of the opinion that Grassley and others wouldn't offer to delay the vote and hold a hearing without some level of confidence that this will end badly for the accuser and Democrats. I'm beginning to understand why Feinstein wasn't willing to bring this up earlier without having authorities look into it first.

If it's a public hearing, Dems need to tread just as carefully as GOP going into midterms. I get the feeling this will be Anita Hill all over again, and could cast a bigger cloud over #MeToo than Asia Argento.
and why Kellyanne was so quick to say she should be heard and not insulted or ignored.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/kellyanne-conway-kavanaugh-accuser-should-not-be-ignored
 

Paratus

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No avoiding now. Committee is going to have to deal with this for real. Political risk increasing exponentially.
You are right about this getting ugly and increasing exponentially.


Besides digging up the stuff about Fords parents and Judge Kavanaugh, the internet has also been digging stuff up on the other guy alleged to have been in room at the time.

There’s some questionable stuff in there:

https://splinternews.com/brett-kavanaughs-alleged-accomplice-has-spent-years-try-1829101148

Judge is a conservative author who has written for publications like the Daily Caller and American Spectator and published the book Wasted: Tales of a Gen X Drunk, in which he describes his experience as a teenage alcoholic. In her account, Ford alleged that both Judge and Kavanaugh were “stumbling drunk” at the time of the incident. (In the Weekly Standard, Judge denied the alleged events ever took place.) In his book, Judge describes someone named “Bart O’Kavanaugh” puking after drinking too much, according to Mother Jones.

He’s apparently been deleting most of his social media accounts because they’ve had a lot of posts like, “rape is wrong, but...” - if we believe the reporting.
 

IJTSSG

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The underlying motive in all of this was not to give anyone a fair hearing or investigate possible criminal activity. It was to smear Judge Kavanaugh just enough to delay the confirmation process until after the mid-terms or until January when the Dems might take back the Senate. Having hearings now is pointless, it's she said, he said, with both sides positions already known. The damage is done. This isn't Clarence Tomas and Anita Hill back when you were innocent until proven guilty. This is Dr. Ford and Brett Kavanaugh in the middle of the #metoo movement where if you don't have concrete evidence of not being in the same hemisphere with your accuser the twitter twats and the rest of the SJW's will convict you out of hand.

Judge Kavanaugh should hang around just long enough for the White House to get their next nominee ready. He should then withdraw and go back to the federal bench where he will hopefully be as an effective jurist as he has been in the past. Hopefully, the Senate can get someone else confirmed before January.
 

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The underlying motive in all of this was not to give anyone a fair hearing or investigate possible criminal activity. It was to smear Judge Kavanaugh just enough to delay the confirmation process until after the mid-terms or until January when the Dems might take back the Senate. Having hearings now is pointless, it's she said, he said, with both sides positions already known. The damage is done. This isn't Clarence Tomas and Anita Hill back when you were innocent until proven guilty. This is Dr. Ford and Brett Kavanaugh in the middle of the #metoo movement where if you don't have concrete evidence of not being in the same hemisphere with your accuser the twitter twats and the rest of the SJW's will convict you out of hand.

Judge Kavanaugh should hang around just long enough for the White House to get their next nominee ready. He should then withdraw and go back to the federal bench where he will hopefully be as an effective jurist as he has been in the past. Hopefully, the Senate can get someone else confirmed before January.

A bit rich coming from a supporter of a party that obstructed the Garland nomination purely out of spite, without any particularly good reason. Mind you, we know you're just fine with sexual assault since you support Trump...

Also, isn't the whole point of a delay to investigate the legitimacy of the claims before rushing him through? Stall tactics or not, shoving a candidate through the door when there are lingering claims generally isn't a good idea.
 

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and why Kellyanne was so quick to say she should be heard and not insulted or ignored.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/kellyanne-conway-kavanaugh-accuser-should-not-be-ignored


Funny thing about that interview. That's indeed what she said, in part. After it's settled we need to look at the other qualities as well. So if serious sexual assault allegations are indeed found to be credible, then her position is that it should be taken in context with the positives.

Now that's bullshit, but I'm sure she'll give Jr hell for his Instagram. Yes, that's sarcasm.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Stall tactics or not, shoving a candidate through the door when there are lingering claims generally isn't a good idea.

That would depend on perspective. If having someone who attempted rape, as an example, supported the Agenda, then of course shoving them through "is a good idea". Don't give the chance for truth to get out.
 

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You are right about this getting ugly and increasing exponentially.


Besides digging up the stuff about Fords parents and Judge Kavanaugh, the internet has also been digging stuff up on the other guy alleged to have been in room at the time.

There’s some questionable stuff in there:

https://splinternews.com/brett-kavanaughs-alleged-accomplice-has-spent-years-try-1829101148

Judge is a conservative author who has written for publications like the Daily Caller and American Spectator and published the book Wasted: Tales of a Gen X Drunk, in which he describes his experience as a teenage alcoholic. In her account, Ford alleged that both Judge and Kavanaugh were “stumbling drunk” at the time of the incident. (In the Weekly Standard, Judge denied the alleged events ever took place.) In his book, Judge describes someone named “Bart O’Kavanaugh” puking after drinking too much, according to Mother Jones.

He’s apparently been deleting most of his social media accounts because they’ve had a lot of posts like, “rape is wrong, but...” - if we believe the reporting.


Considering that she's willing to do this, I have a feeling that Kavanaugh might withdraw despite making Donnie really angry. McConnell and the others have to be worried that a bunch of old cranks tearing into this woman will likely put the Senate in more jeopardy.
 

fskimospy

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The underlying motive in all of this was not to give anyone a fair hearing or investigate possible criminal activity. It was to smear Judge Kavanaugh just enough to delay the confirmation process until after the mid-terms or until January when the Dems might take back the Senate. Having hearings now is pointless, it's she said, he said, with both sides positions already known. The damage is done. This isn't Clarence Tomas and Anita Hill back when you were innocent until proven guilty. This is Dr. Ford and Brett Kavanaugh in the middle of the #metoo movement where if you don't have concrete evidence of not being in the same hemisphere with your accuser the twitter twats and the rest of the SJW's will convict you out of hand.

Judge Kavanaugh should hang around just long enough for the White House to get their next nominee ready. He should then withdraw and go back to the federal bench where he will hopefully be as an effective jurist as he has been in the past. Hopefully, the Senate can get someone else confirmed before January.

You are never innocent until proven guilty during confirmation for a federal appointment. You don’t appear to know how the constitution works. Next time Republicans should vet their nominees better. Hell even without this accusation he appears to have lied to the senate repeatedly and perjured himself.

The real question we should be addressing is whether or not to impeach him in his current position, not if to give him a new one.
 
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