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Starbuck1975

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You already tried this tack and when the very recent example of Al Franken was brought up you hand waved it away. There’s no reason for me to address this again because it’s already been refuted. The #bothsides-ing really needs to stop.
It hasn’t been refuted. It’s an uncomfortable truth. You can pretend Democrats care about sexual assault, and yet Democrats put a credibly accused sexual harasser, rapist and misogynist in the White House. Al Franken was acceptable collateral damage, as is Dr. Ford.
 
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fskimospy

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It hasn’t been refuted. It’s an uncpmfortable truth. You can pretend Democrats care about sexual assault, and yet Democrats put a credibly accused sexual harasser, rapist and misogynist in the White House.

Nearly a quarter century ago. Bill Clinton would not be nominated today and we both know it. You might as well say Democrats today are huge fans of New Kids on the Block. This is in marked contrast to a confessed sex offender who Republicans not only nominated but currently enthusiastically support. You had no answer to Al Franken other than hand waving because you know I’m right.

Democrats obviously care about sexual assault as shown by their actions, not words. Republicans clearly do not as shown by their actions, not words. There’s no escaping this simple fact.
 
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fskimospy

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The fact that you needed to reach back nearly a quarter century to #bothsides this should show just how weak your point is.
 

repoman0

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It hasn’t been refuted. It’s an uncomfortable truth. You can pretend Democrats care about sexual assault, and yet Democrats put a credibly accused sexual harasser, rapist and misogynist in the White House. Al Franken was acceptable collateral damage, as is Dr. Ford.

You understand that probably half the country as of 1992 has died off since then and the voting population is vastly different ... right?
 

Starbuck1975

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Nearly a quarter century ago. Bill Clinton would not be nominated today and we both know it. You might as well say Democrats today are huge fans of New Kids on the Block. This is in marked contrast to a confessed sex offender who Republicans not only nominated but currently enthusiastically support. You had no answer to Al Franken other than hand waving because you know I’m right.

Democrats obviously care about sexual assault as shown by their actions, not words. Republicans clearly do not as shown by their actions, not words. There’s no escaping this simple fact.
Democrats nominated his wife two years ago, a woman credibly accused of repressing her husband’s accusers. Please.
 
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I do mean her and she did not withdraw the claim that she heard of it contemporaneously, she simply clarified that she did not have first hand knowledge of it. You are a very dishonest person.
and you are a liar. This woman claimed she heard it contemporaneously in school, yet Ford earlier claimed it happened in the summer. But lie, lie, lie, lie, lie, if you think it achieves your political goal.
 

fskimospy

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and you are a liar. This woman claimed she heard it contemporaneously in school, yet Ford earlier claimed it happened in the summer. But lie, lie, lie, lie, lie, if you think it achieves your political goal.

Taj this is yet another false accusation that you're going to need to apologize for because I never made any judgment calls about her statement, I simply said your claim that she had retracted it was a lie, which it was. Now that I think about it this is two lies you should apologize for. Any ETA on that?

Genuine question - why do you lie so consistently about everything? We both know your goal here is to push Republican friendly narratives, even when you know they are lies. The problem is when you lie constantly literally no one believes a word you say. You would be way better off backing off the obvious lies like these because they would make your softer lies more credible.
 

fskimospy

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Not digging. What’s over? There is a reason Trump brought Bill Clinton’s accusers to one of the debates. It completely blunted any attacks on accusations of sexual assault against him.

Who cares if Trump was able to pull some political stunt? That has nothing to do with whether or not Democrats today care about sexual assault. If anything, your claim that it was effective would indicate that they DO care about it so you're proving my point. You've shifted the goalposts so far we can't even see the field we started on.

Your argument has been completely demolished by a simple look at the available facts. I don't know why you're so stubbornly attempting to #bothsides this when the evidence is so incredibly clear. Remember, this sort of #bothsides nonsense enables Republicans to get away with incredibly bad behavior because they are counting on your #bothsides to prevent others from holding them accountable. You're part of their strategy.
 

Moonbeam

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I doubt she will testify without an FBI investigation, but if she does there will be grounds for an investigation because one of them will have lied to Congress under oath.
 

kage69

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Democrats obviously care about sexual assault as shown by their actions, not words. Republicans clearly do not as shown by their actions, not words. There’s no escaping this simple fact.

So much this. Anyone disputing this has an issue with observable reality. Hell of a handicap for any kind of debate.
 

Starbuck1975

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Who cares if Trump was able to pull some political stunt? That has nothing to do with whether or not Democrats today care about sexual assault. If anything, your claim that it was effective would indicate that they DO care about it so you're proving my point. You've shifted the goalposts so far we can't even see the field we started on.

Your argument has been completely demolished by a simple look at the available facts. I don't know why you're so stubbornly attempting to #bothsides this when the evidence is so incredibly clear. Remember, this sort of #bothsides nonsense enables Republicans to get away with incredibly bad behavior because they are counting on your #bothsides to prevent others from holding them accountable. You're part of their strategy.
I will acknowledge two things. One is that the GOP does not care about sexual assault. The second is that Democrats care about it when it is politically convenient.

You are welcome to go over to the Keith Ellison thread at any time to show how much you care about sexual assault. Take some of the water boys with you.

You will also notice that I have not posted in that thread, and also supported Al Franken, because I strongly oppose the politicizing of sexual assault.
 
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I will acknowledge two things. One is that the GOP does not care about sexual assault. The second is that Democrats care about it when it is politically convenient.

You are welcome to go over to the Keith Ellison thread at any time to show how much you care about sexual assault. Take some of the water boys with you.

You will also notice that I have not posted in that thread, and also supported Al Franken, because I strongly oppose the politicizing of sexual assault.
Some of the GOP cared about it when it cost Senator Franken his job, as did some of the Democrats.
 

fskimospy

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I will acknowledge two things. One is that the GOP does not care about sexual assault. The second is that Democrats care about it when it is politically convenient.

This has been shown to be factually false, as proved by Democrats forcing the resignation of a popular and high profile senator for exactly that. Republicans on the other hand enthusiastically support a serial sex offender.

You are welcome to go over to the Keith Ellison thread at any time to show how much you care about sexual assault. Take some of the water boys with you.

Keith Ellison is not accused of sexual assault.

You will also notice that I have not posted in that thread, and also supported Al Franken, because I strongly oppose the politicizing of sexual assault.

Holding people accountable is not politicizing sexual assault, it is holding people accountable.
 
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