Kavanaugh SCOTUS Senate Judicial Hearing

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pcgeek11

Lifer
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No no no. I know what hearsay is and why it isn't admissible in a court, but we agree this isn't a court, so why should it be dismissed by the Judiciary Committee?

Please, use your own words, regardless of how small.

For the same reasons. I'm not going to play your silly word games.

If you knew what hearsay is and why it isn't admissible in court you would understand what I am saying and why.
 
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K1052

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I might support that, although it might be that we've become so polarized that appointments would become almost impossible with such a rule.

That's a possibility but this shit is broke. If judges term out the rewards from such political obstruction are significantly lessened I think. I'd be willing to give it a shot.
 

pcgeek11

Lifer
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This is silliness. One of the arguments against her story is that she’s somehow made it up to get Kavanaugh. The fact that people were talking about it at the time is evidence that’s not the case. That bolsters her case.

This isn’t just not nothing, it’s very important evidence.

I never said she made it up. I think she is mistaken.

No, it is hearsay.

What is your impression of the 65 women that spoke about Kavanaughs character?
 
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cytg111

Lifer
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I never said she made it up. I think she is mistaken.

No, it is hearsay.

What is your impression of the 65 women that spoke about Kavanaughs character?

ONLY 65? Anything less than 2000 is just not serious. Pathetic.
 

pcgeek11

Lifer
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We are not in a court so that is irrelevant. Kavanaugh has no presumption of innocence either.

This is a job interview, he has to convince people that they should accept him into this job, not the other way around.

I was stating my opinion. Everybody should be held as innocent until proven guilty.

I do hope that you and your kind get falsely accused of a sexual assault one day.
 

fskimospy

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I never said she made it up. I think she is mistaken.

That’s irrelevant. Other people have so it is important.

No, it is hearsay.

It is not hearsay by the legal definition, haha. Hearsay is when someone gives testimony to facts they did not witness. For example if I said ‘pcgeek said he saw Mr. Green with the candlestick in the conservatory’. My testimony about Mr. Green is hearsay. When this woman said she heard rumors of this assault at the it is direct testimony to events she witnessed and would absolutely be admissible.

Doesn’t matter anyway though because committee hearings aren’t court proceedings and they are not intended to be. Court rules don’t apply and will never apply. This is on purpose.

What is your impression of the 65 women that spoke about Kavanaughs character?

I couldn’t care less unless they were in that room at the time of the alleged incident. Were they? I wonder how many women Bill Cosby could have gotten to vouch for him.
 

fskimospy

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I was stating my opinion. Everybody should be held as innocent until proven guilty.

Absolutely not. If you had a prospective employee you strongly suspected was a violent sex criminal but you couldn’t prove it you would be absolutely right to not hire that person even though they were ‘innocent’. It would be insane if you acted otherwise, in fact.

I do hope that you and your kind get falsely accused of a sexual assault one day.

Well that’s gross and childish. You have a lot of growing up to do.

It’s so weird to wish something like that on a random stranger over the Internet. Who does that?
 

pcgeek11

Lifer
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I couldn’t care less unless they were in that room at the time of the alleged incident. Were they? I wonder how many women Bill Cosby could have gotten to vouch for him.

So any and all of these people that said that they heard about an incident doesn't matter either because they were not in the room.
 
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fskimospy

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So any and all of these people that said that they heard about an incident doesn't matter either because they were not in the room.

That makes absolutely no sense. You’re flailing. The fact that there was gossip about the events in question at the time they occurred is evidence supporting that it occurred. A bunch of women signing a nebulous statement about him being a good guy means nothing.
 

Moonbeam

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This is silliness. One of the arguments against her story is that she’s somehow made it up to get Kavanaugh. The fact that people were talking about it at the time is evidence that’s not the case. That bolsters her case.

This isn’t just not nothing, it’s very important evidence.
There isn't a place on Earth except in cult Republican America where this wouldn't be instantly self evident. We are talking to people who profoundly motivated not to use any logic when it goes against their cult programming. There is no Kool-Aid they won't drink.
 

fskimospy

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There isn't a place on Earth except in cult Republican America where this wouldn't be instantly self evident. We are talking to people who profoundly motivated not to use any logic when it goes against their cult programming. There is no Kool-Aid they won't drink.

I can’t remember if I posted this before or not but it reminds me of a story I saw recently where Republicans were having difficulty making their voters believe they were in electoral trouble this November and so they should go vote. They found that their voters would simply decide any news they didn’t like wasn’t real and so they weren’t concerned about a possible democratic victory.
 

pcgeek11

Lifer
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Absolutely not. If you had a prospective employee you strongly suspected was a violent sex criminal but you couldn’t prove it you would be absolutely right to not hire that person even though they were ‘innocent’. It would be insane if you acted otherwise, in fact.



Well that’s gross and childish. You have a lot of growing up to do.

It’s so weird to wish something like that on a random stranger over the Internet. Who does that?

I feel that way about anyone that thinks that someone is guilty on the word of one person with no proof or evidence to back it up. That is just wrong on too many levels to ruin a mans entire career and family life for this partisan lynching with no proof.
 
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pcgeek11

Lifer
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That makes absolutely no sense. You’re flailing. The fact that there was gossip about the events in question at the time they occurred is evidence supporting that it occurred. A bunch of women signing a nebulous statement about him being a good guy means nothing.

Those womens opinion carries just as much weight as a rumor in high school.

It doesn't matter what the facts are. You and the left have deemed him guilty regardless of the actual facts.

I'm done with this stupidity.
 

Moonbeam

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I feel that way about anyone that thinks that someone is guilty on the word of one person with no proof or evidence to back it up. That is just wrong on too many levels to ruin a mans entire career and family life for this partisan lynching with no proof.
Who the fuck do you think doesn't agree with that?
 

FIVR

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Those womens opinion carries just as much weight as a rumor in high school.

It doesn't matter what the facts are. You and the left have deemed him guilty regardless of the actual facts.

I'm done with this stupidity.

Kavanaugh was a hack of a judge and a liar. He lied on camera several times, proven lies. Even if he didn't do this (he did) he doesn't deserve to be on the supreme court.

The fact that you can't see that is insane. You are just another Trump koolaid drinker.
 

ecogen

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Those womens opinion carries just as much weight as a rumor in high school.

It doesn't matter what the facts are. You and the left have deemed him guilty regardless of the actual facts.

I'm done with this stupidity.

Oh no, not "the left".

You know fuck all about the actual facts, but you have deemed him innocent regardless.

Just take another L and move on, as you always do.
 

zinfamous

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It is hearsay... There is a reason it is not admissible in a court. I know this isn't a court, but the same theory should apply.

I have also heard and read a lot about Aliens and Spirits that suggests they really exist.

huh?
 

Bitek

Lifer
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I was stating my opinion. Everybody should be held as innocent until proven guilty.

I do hope that you and your kind get falsely accused of a sexual assault one day.

That's a fucked up thing to say.

Should someone say they hope your daughter/wife gets assaulted, nobody believes them, and you have to just sit and take it like a powerless beta male?

That's the flip side of what your are saying, and what all too often happens in these situations. That's what your boy Trump does when he's grabbing pussies.
 
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