Kavanaugh SCOTUS Senate Judicial Hearing

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hal2kilo

Lifer
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So as I understand it then: 15 republicans, two of whom weren't even in office, and notably lacking the Senate and House minority leaders, met to discuss derailing Obama's agenda. You think this meeting was responsible for the direction of the entire party as represented in the house and senate at the time, some 247 people?

Secondly, do you think Obama knew about this meeting and was responding in kind?

And anyway, perhaps Republicans were pushing back after democrats obstructed Bush.
You can't be serious.

Notice this under the title of the Hill article.

By Sen. Mike Lee (R-Utah) — 03/14/12 01:22 PM EDT 14
The views expressed by contributors are their own and not the view of The Hill
 

Atreus21

Lifer
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You can't be serious.

Notice this under the title of the Hill article.

By Sen. Mike Lee (R-Utah) — 03/14/12 01:22 PM EDT 14
The views expressed by contributors are their own and not the view of The Hill

And....? Eskimo gave me a huffpo link, and I read it.
 
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Hmm, I can't find the post for the moment and I sadly can't remember the exact terms you used.

My search did turn up countless posts about you whining about how the whole forum was biased against you though, haha.
You can't find the post because you're a pathological liar and make up shit like this all the time.
 
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fskimospy

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So as I understand it then: 15 republicans, two of whom weren't even in office, and notably lacking the Senate and House minority leaders, met to discuss derailing Obama's agenda. You think this meeting was responsible for the direction of the entire party as represented in the house and senate at the time, some 247 people?

If you look at the names present at that meeting it was many of the most powerful Republicans in Washington at the time. It included both the House and Senate minority whips, Chief Deputy Whip, powerful committee chairs, and other powerful senators like Jim DeMint. So basically most of the most powerful Republican politicians in Washington except for the House and Senate minority leaders.

If you think they weren't capable of steering the direction of the party you are insane. This is shown particularly well by the fact that, well, the party went in exactly the direction they recommended.

Secondly, do you think Obama knew about this meeting and was responding in kind?

I see little reason to think he did. Regardless, considering how far Obama reached across the aisle in his first term if he was aware of it he took it and did the opposite.

And anyway, perhaps Republicans were pushing back after democrats obstructed Bush.[/QUOTE]

Why are you quoting from ultra partisan editorial pieces? You have to know they are going to lie to you. This is the contempt for you among conservative media and conservative elites I keep talking about.

Despite Lee's protests of unprecedented Democratic obstruction, their actions were basically in line with what had come before them. While filibusters have been increasing for years the most recent Republican Senate before the 1994 Republican takeover was equal to or more than Democratic filibusters for the remainder of Clinton and Bush. All that changed when Obama came into office, at which point filibusters went to the moon. So no, it was not pushing back, it was new and unprecedented obstruction.



Again, no more revisionist history.
 
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hal2kilo

Lifer
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And....? Eskimo gave me a huffpo link, and I read it.
You need to learn the difference between when a news organization posts an article that is opinion, and when they are posted as journalistic news.
I will give you that the "news" article came from Huffpo. The Hill article was an opinion and stated so.
 

ivwshane

Lifer
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You can't be serious.

Notice this under the title of the Hill article.

By Sen. Mike Lee (R-Utah) — 03/14/12 01:22 PM EDT 14
The views expressed by contributors are their own and not the view of The Hill

YOU can't be serious! The unprecedented obstruction by Republicans in every measurable metric was simply a coincidence. Filibustering ones own bill is quite common in the senate. Refusing to give a supreme court nomination a hearing has been done many times in American history.

Clearly YOU aren't familiar with history.





/s
 
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Jhhnn

IN MEMORIAM
Nov 11, 1999
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So as I understand it then: 15 republicans, two of whom weren't even in office, and notably lacking the Senate and House minority leaders, met to discuss derailing Obama's agenda. You think this meeting was responsible for the direction of the entire party as represented in the house and senate at the time, some 247 people?

Secondly, do you think Obama knew about this meeting and was responding in kind?

And anyway, perhaps Republicans were pushing back after democrats obstructed Bush.

Pure bullshit. Dems filibustered 26 out of several hundred-

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_federal_judges_appointed_by_George_W._Bush
 
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boomerang

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Good...you're still around. Mind answering this question for me.....second attempt, btw.
Yeah, I do mind. I have absolutely zero interest in your questions. However, if you're cool with paid protesters you should know that I too, have a price. Throw out your best number.
 
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fskimospy

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Mar 10, 2006
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You can't find the post because you're a pathological liar and make up shit like this all the time.

Hahaha, I never make shit up, you are just incapable of accepting contrary opinions and decide that anyone who makes you look dumb must be a liar.
 
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So as I understand it then: 15 republicans, two of whom weren't even in office, and notably lacking the Senate and House minority leaders, met to discuss derailing Obama's agenda. You think this meeting was responsible for the direction of the entire party as represented in the house and senate at the time, some 247 people?

Secondly, do you think Obama knew about this meeting and was responding in kind?

And anyway, perhaps Republicans were pushing back after democrats obstructed Bush.
But, but ,but

Rush Limbaugh said he hoped Obama fails!! That means something ! Kinda, in a way, somehow.
 

ivwshane

Lifer
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But, but ,but

Rush Limbaugh said he hoped Obama fails!! That means something ! Kinda, in a way, somehow.

I wasn't aware that Limbaugh was head of the Republican party or a member of Congress.

Your needless display of your stupidity is tiresome. We get, you are an idiot, you support idiots, and you put party before country everytime.
 
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Lanyap

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This guy is applying for a lifetime job. The time to approach him is whenever you can. How tough would it have been to just shake his hand and offer sympathy for his loss? Most decent people would.

We learned more about Kavanaugh in that 10 second exchange then we will in the entire set of hearings. The unscripted moments show the real measure of the man.


C’mon, you don’t really believe that do you? This is not a meet and greet, it is a formal SCOTUS judiciary hearing. What did the father expect to accomplish by doing that?
 

IronWing

No Lifer
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C’mon, you don’t really believe that do you? This is not a meet and greet, it is a formal SCOTUS judiciary hearing. What did the father expect to accomplish by doing that?
Kavanaugh is a man who can't face the real world effects of his degenerate ideology.
 
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ivwshane

Lifer
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I'm a fan of this klobuchar girl. She's also asking some good questions and making some good points.
 

vi edit

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I'm a fan of this klobuchar girl. She's also asking some good questions and making some good points.

Klobochar and Whitehouse (RI) are standouts for asking on task, intelligent and important questions.
 

ivwshane

Lifer
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Uh oh, we've got a politician (Ted cruz) using percentages to make a point. How many decisions have garland and kavanaugh been on together? What were those cases? Give me a number not a percentage.
 

dainthomas

Lifer
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It's not shocking that he has the details of the few cases where he hasn't ruled for corporations memorized so he can trot them out every time he's pressed on his beliefs.

Dems need to get back congress so we can at least have a couple year reprieve from having to listen to clowns like him.
 
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