Kavanaugh SCOTUS Senate Judicial Hearing

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IronWing

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You think that's not coming back around?

Certainly goes to attack his credibility in answering the charges by Ford.
The Dems better get on with it then because once Kavanaugh is on the bench there ain't no way he will ever be impeached.
 

umbrella39

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I smell Manafort sweat on you .. you really ought to bathe more.


Say taj, you be a short man too? Thats why you identify with Trump?


LOL this assclown... it's fun to watch them concern troll about "liberal violence against conservatives" when they cornered the violence against people with different opinions market centuries ago... How long before one of our resident snowflakes run down a crowd of liberal protesters...
 
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Jhhnn

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Why? He's qualified and he'd make an excellent Justice.
Of course. Well, if you think beating back women's fight for equality is a good thing. If you think that ruling to further enable the financial elite at the expense of the common man is a good thing.
 

Aegeon

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If anyone can connect Kavanaugh to Dr. Ford, it would be her. If Ms. Keyser were to affirm Dr. Ford’s account, then it would be over for Kavanaugh. She has chosen not to.
As I noted if you read the whole post, unless you are taking the position that Keyser did not choose to lie, this statement is misleading. All Keyser basically said is while she believes Ford's account is accurate, her memory of an event over 30 years is not good enough to verify any of the details of the party at this point.
 
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Starbuck1975

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As I noted if you read the whole post, unless you are taking the position that Keyser did not choose to lie, this statement is misleading. All Keyser basically said is while she believes Ford's account is accurate, her memory of an event over 30 years is not good enough to verify any of the details of the party at this point.

As is being currently reported:
"Simply put," attorney Howard Walsh said, "Ms. Keyser does not know Mr. Kavanaugh and she has no recollection of ever being at a party or gathering where he was present, with, or without, Dr. Ford."

Keyser has no recollection of being at a party with Kavanaugh present, which is problematic if Dr. Ford recalls Keyser being at the party when the assault occurred.

Dr. Ford identitifed who was at the party. If none of the identified eyewitnesses are able to verify that the party even happened, what then?
 
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Aegeon

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The testimony currently stands at 4 to 1. Including her "life long friend".
Other than a lack of concern for accuracy, I am not sure what you are trying to prove with this misleading claim. Her lifelong friend did back believing her story, she simply clarified she did not have sufficient memories of what was an uneventful party at this point. Depending on what Ford said, she may have believed over 30 years later that Keyser was more familiar with Kavanaugh over 30 years later (an attempted rape by someone would tend to make someone stick in someone's mind personally speaking) but that's the only relevant detail. Its not clear Keyser even assumed this knowledge in the first place since conceivably Keyser could have noticed something about the party even if Ford did not actually say anything at the time, although obviously if she did notice something she does not remember it now.

Notably not even Mark Judge actually specifically contradicted Ford's testimony as far as I can tell. They all stuck with statements in the category where simply not remember the party if it happened. They significantly did not attempt to claim they well remember all the parties from that time period and are certain Kavanaugh and Ford were never at the same party while they were for example One of the witnesses gave a general testimony about how she believes in Kavanaugh's credibility, but the rest of her statement easily falls into the category that she may simply not remember the party details at this point. (Theoretically in the case of the testimony of the woman other than Keyser, another scenario would be both were at the same party but she did not realize it at the time.)

It should be noted that in rape cases people are sometimes convicted basically purely on one person's word versus the other's words, and we are not talking about a criminal trial here.
 

Indus

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As is being currently reported:
"Simply put," attorney Howard Walsh said, "Ms. Keyser does not know Mr. Kavanaugh and she has no recollection of ever being at a party or gathering where he was present, with, or without, Dr. Ford."

Keyser has no recollection of being at a party with Kavanaugh present, which is problematic if Dr. Ford recalls Keyser being at the party when the assault occurred.

Dr. Ford identitifed who was at the party. If none of the identified eyewitnesses are able to verify that the party even happened, what then?

Simply put 3rd parties don't remember all things that happened in high school.

Hate to use my own example but I had a high school reunion recently and I didn't want to talk with 1 asshole that hit me in the head with a baseball bat while I was playing catcher. I needed stitches for that still have the bump.

But others at the reunion didn't even remember it.

I do.
 

FIVR

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this is fake news. Of the 4 "witnesses" (weird to call Kavanaugh, the accused himself, a witness, but OK), Judge refuses to testify. Kavanaugh is already a proven liar. And the third witness believes Ford is telling the truth. I'm not sure about the 4th.


So really it's 2 vs 1 in favor of Ford in terms of people willing to testify. Not looking good for Kavanaugh at all.
 

Aegeon

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As is being currently reported:
"Simply put," attorney Howard Walsh said, "Ms. Keyser does not know Mr. Kavanaugh and she has no recollection of ever being at a party or gathering where he was present, with, or without, Dr. Ford."

Keyser has no recollection of being at a party with Kavanaugh present, which is problematic if Dr. Ford recalls Keyser being at the party when the assault occurred.

Dr. Ford identified who was at the party. If none of the identified eyewitnesses are able to verify that the party even happened, what then?
As noted, what is required even for a criminal conviction is not as strong as you seem to think it is. Basically as noted most people can't remember who was at a party over 30 years ago if nothing eventful happened as far as they knew at the time, so the fact 3 people either can't remember (or in the case of particularly Judge possibly lying about it) that would not seem surprising. Its worth noting someone else who would have been likely to have been at the parties in question may still be able to step forward and confirm that they definitely do remember at least one party where Ford and Kavanaugh were definitely both at it.
 
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Jhhnn

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As is being currently reported:
"Simply put," attorney Howard Walsh said, "Ms. Keyser does not know Mr. Kavanaugh and she has no recollection of ever being at a party or gathering where he was present, with, or without, Dr. Ford."

Keyser has no recollection of being at a party with Kavanaugh present, which is problematic if Dr. Ford recalls Keyser being at the party when the assault occurred.

Dr. Ford identitifed who was at the party. If none of the identified eyewitnesses are able to verify that the party even happened, what then?

Keyser said she doesn't know Kavanaugh. Therefore she wouldn't know if he was at said party or not. A photo of Kavanaugh taken at the time might refresh her memory of the presence of a person she didn't know at a party.

"Him? Yeh, he was there but I didn't know who he was."
 

HomerJS

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Looks like Kavanaugh has a history of objectifying women. I did wonder why his clerks were all so attractive. Lawyers are actually not any more attractive than normal americans... yet kavanaugh seems to pick em.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/sep/20/brett-kavanaugh-supreme-court-yale-amy-chua

'No accident' Brett Kavanaugh's female law clerks 'looked like models', Yale professor told students
The woman in question Any Chua denied she coached women on how to appeal to Kavanaugh's desire to have clerks who look like models.
Looks like Yale students are calling out Amy for lying. More evidence Kavanaugh ain't the reformed choir boy people are claiming

Yale Students To Prof Who Denies Coaching Kavanaugh Clerks: You’re Lying

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entr...lerks-youre-lying_us_5ba685dde4b069d5f9d369e6
 
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FIVR

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The woman in question Any Chua denied she coached women on how to appeal to Kavanaugh's desire to have clerks who look like models.
Looks like Yale students are calling out Amy for lying. More evidence Kavanaugh ain't the reformed choir boy people are claiming

Yale Students To Prof Who Denies Coaching Kavanaugh Clerks: You’re Lying

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entr...lerks-youre-lying_us_5ba685dde4b069d5f9d369e6

It all seems to fit the pathology of a sexual offender.


GOP wants to nominate their own Harvey Weinstein to the supreme court.
 

HomerJS

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It all seems to fit the pathology of a sexual offender.


GOP wants to nominate their own Harvey Weinstein to the supreme court.
Why not? They tried to get a pedophile into the Senate. These people don't care.
 
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