Kavanaugh SCOTUS Senate Judicial Hearing

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ecogen

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If you are trying to argue that the 2016 elections went well for the Dems then I'm not sure what to tell you. Your fimament bubble is strong. They lost widely, they were rejected on a large scale.

Are you retarded buddy? Did I say the 2016 election go well for the Dems? I said your point of them being thoroughly rejected by America was bullshit since they got more votes. How those votes translate into power is a completely different conversation.
 
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If you are trying to argue that the 2016 elections went well for the Dems then I'm not sure what to tell you. Your fimament bubble is strong. They lost widely, they were rejected on a large scale.
The GOP got 49.1% of total vote for house seats. The Dems got 48%. For the Senate the margin was 45.2 million votes Dem vs. 39.3 million votes GOP. You aren't arguing in facts here. There was no wide rejection. The GOP ended up with a large advantage in the house and retained the Senate in spite of the actual overall vote due to disproportional representation and gerrymandering.
 

SteveGrabowski

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So just trying to imagine the next couple of years...

- In November, Democrats narrowly take the house, Republicans narrowly retain the Senate

- Legislation is effectively blocked, but Trump is not affected that much since the administration is simply using the legal apparatus that was already in place to forward their agenda

- The SCOTUS overturns Roe V. Wade at the first chance they get. The original ruling was a right to privacy, so that privacy will be gone. In red states, doctors will be required to report pregnancies to the state, so women that get pregnant but want to keep open the option for abortion tourism or illicit abortion will not seek prenatal care.

- In the run up to the 2020 elections, there are massive voter registration purges. Polling places are closed, voting hours are shortened, and any challenge is quickly escalated to republican judges that protect the behavior.

- The elections are close with lower turnout than 2016 because of concerted Republican efforts. If Trump wins, elite Democrats and Liberals will scold people for not voting. If the Democrat wins, Trump will declare the elections invalid because of massive voter fraud. Democrats will sue, and the case will go to the... supreme court.

Roe vs Wade will never be officially overturned. It will only be overturned in practice in red states via death by 1000 cuts. Like Ginsburg said, a woman with money will always be able to get an abortion. All she has to do is fly to a blue state to get the procedure done. But everyone else who can't afford it? Fuck 'em. We'll just keep seeing red states implementing laws designed to shut clinics down in their state lines knowing their 5-4 Republican majority on the court will find them constitutional.
 
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The GOP got 49.1% of total vote for house seats. The Dems got 48%. For the Senate the margin was 45.2 million votes Dem vs. 39.3 million votes GOP. You aren't arguing in facts here. There was no wide rejection. The GOP ended up with a large advantage in the house and retained the Senate in spite of the actual overall vote due to disproportional representation and gerrymandering.
You do understand that only the votes in a district matter in that district don't you? Don't you?
 
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quikah

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I am not sure if this was mentioned before, but does anyone know what is going on with the written declarations that Kavanaugh was using as a defense that are signed "Under penalty of felony"? It should be "Under penalty of perjury" according to this https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/28/1746

Is this some weird loophole or something?
 

SlowSpyder

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The GOP got 49.1% of total vote for house seats. The Dems got 48%. For the Senate the margin was 45.2 million votes Dem vs. 39.3 million votes GOP. You aren't arguing in facts here. There was no wide rejection. The GOP ended up with a large advantage in the house and retained the Senate in spite of the actual overall vote due to disproportional representation and gerrymandering.

Yes, in made up internet forum ways the Dems did great. In the way that matters, they were widely rejected.

Let's hope 2018 goes as well for the Dems as 2016.

*edit - And 2020.
 

ecogen

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You were speaking about popular vote. I'm just trying to help you understand United States politics.

I was arguing against the "totally rejected by America" statement your buddy made. I consider a country to be its people, and by all accounts the people didn't totally reject the Dems. Again, you're arguing something completely different.
 

SlowSpyder

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I was arguing against the "totally rejected by America" statement your buddy made. I consider a country to be its people, and by all accounts the people didn't totally reject the Dems. Again, you're arguing something completely different.

Even leftist Washington Post says so.

Republicans took something like 2/3 the local elections. Again, you've really got an uphill battle if you want to suggest the Dems did well and weren't kicked squarely in the balls in 2016. Let me try one more time. America WIDELY rejected the Democrats.
 
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Kavanaugh drank beer on a Thursday in 1982 and his calendar proves it? OMG! That does it...he crossed the line there!

Thanks Senator Blumenthal...you've done an amazing job of encapsulating the intellect, morality and integrity of your Party...but that said, few would dare to go as low as you have by using such incredibly trivial minutia as part of the rationalization for your vote. Kudos!
 
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ecogen

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Even leftist Washington Post says so.

Republicans took something like 2/3 the local elections. Again, you've really got an uphill battle if you want to suggest the Dems did well and weren't kicked squarely in the balls in 2016. Let me try one more time. America WIDELY rejected the Democrats.

You are completely retarded. I'll repeat it one last time, maybe it will get through your thick skull this time.

Dems got more votes in both presidential and senate elections and were pretty much even when it come to the house popular vote.

America, or any country for that matter for me at least, is its people, and the people did not reject the Dems, your retarded election system did. See the difference?

If you still sincerely don't get it, get help. I'm done.
 
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ewdotson

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Even leftist Washington Post says so.

Republicans took something like 2/3 the local elections. Again, you've really got an uphill battle if you want to suggest the Dems did well and weren't kicked squarely in the balls in 2016. Let me try one more time. America WIDELY rejected the Democrats.
I realize nuance is difficult for you, but I'm pretty sure folks are arguing that the Dems did poorly in the 2016 elections but that that's entirely different thing than their being rejected by America as a whole.
 
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brycejones

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Isn't cute how someone dusted off an alt just before the mid-terms? How long before toaster lover and texas hiker who liked the salty spray on his come back?
 

SlowSpyder

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You are completely retarded. I'll repeat it one last time, maybe it will get through your thick skull this time.

Dems got more votes in both presidential and senate elections and were pretty much even when it come to the house popular vote.

America, or any country for that matter for me at least, is its people, and the people did not reject the Dems, your retarded election system did. See the difference?

If you still sincerely don't get it, get help. I'm done.


You were done before you began. You're measuring what actually matters vs. what matters in your opinion.
 

fskimospy

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Kavanaugh drank beer on a Thursday and his calendar proves it? OMG!

That does it...he crossed the line here!

Kavanaugh introduced the calendar himself as exculpatory evidence but it shows him going to exactly the sort of party that Ford was allegedly assaulted at.

I don't know why you're complaining about the evidence Kavanaugh himself provided, it's not our fault if it's more inculpatory than not, you should take it up with him.
 

ecogen

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You were done before you began. You're measuring what actually matters vs. what matters in your opinion.

You made the statement that America rejected the Dems, unless you consider America to be your election system and NOT the people then your statement is false.

So, according to you the US is the election system? Yes or no.
 
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