kde 3

[nihil]

so...we all know kde 3 was realeased today. knowing that how bout we some users screenshots now.

 

[Nothinman]

Soon as it makes it into woody or sid =)

 

[SKORPI0]

Downloading it right now, can't wait to try it with Mandrake 8.2.

 

[marat]

<< Downloading it right now, can't wait to try it with Mandrake 8.2. >>



Don't forget about High Performance Liquid from http://themes.kde.org

 

[nortexoid]

is it just me or does gnome still look a lot nicer?

 

[SinNisTeR]

<< is it just me or does gnome still look a lot nicer? >>


it's just you

 

[Sunner]

<< is it just me or does gnome still look a lot nicer? >>


Maybe this will change your mind

Anyways, Thinman, do you know if KDE's package maintainer has a homepage somewhere?
Was thinking maybe they have a status for the packages, I hate waiting for stuff without knowing whats happening

 

[Armitage]

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<< Downloading it right now, can't wait to try it with Mandrake 8.2. >>



Don't forget about High Performance Liquid from http://themes.kde.org >>



I tried liquid a few months ago on KDE 2.2.2 and had alot of stability problems. In particular, the taskbar would tend to crash. Has there been alot of development on it since then?

 

[MGMorden]

I'm compiling it (via SSH, I'm at work) right now. I tried the Slackware packages but they didn't work (was complaining about not finding a library when I tried to run it, but it didn't say which one so I couldn't really look into it). I should be up and running with it by the end of the day; screenshots then.

 

[Sunner]

I didn't have any problems whatsoever with the 0.6 version of HPL.

 

[jlemieux]

Guys, I hate to bug you with a newbie question but here goes. I have a fresh RH7.2 install on my dell laptop and now I want to install KDE3. I didn't install KDE2x because you are supposed to uninstall it anyway. So here is my question. I have downloaded and burned all the KDE3 rpms to disc and now I want to install it. What is the first thing to do? I tried this last night on a different system and everytime it said that the dependencies were not met. Which package should I start with or is there a way to do all of them at once? TIA.

 

[MGMorden]

jlemieux: Here is the order I'm having to go in for source install, so I assume you'll have to do the same for RPM's -

arts
kdelibs
kdebase
kdebindings
<everything else in any order but do kdegraphics before kdeartwork>

It might also complain about other non kde packages too; if it does that just grab them and keep installing until it quits complaining (RPM's dependencies can be really annoying but if you want to use RPM you kinda just have to deal with it).

 

[jlemieux]

Ok, just to do this one RPM I have to find and install all these others?
For this one kdeartwork-3.0.0-3.i386.rpm

I am given these as missing dependencies
kwin.so
libcups.so.2
libdcop.so.4
libdecore.so.4
libkdefx.so.4
libkdeui.so.4
libqt-mt.so.3

Where do I find these at? Why do I have to install so many packages? Is there something easier than using the RPMs?

 

[marat]

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<<

<< Downloading it right now, can't wait to try it with Mandrake 8.2. >>



Don't forget about High Performance Liquid from http://themes.kde.org >>



I tried liquid a few months ago on KDE 2.2.2 and had alot of stability problems. In particular, the taskbar would tend to crash. Has there been alot of development on it since then? >>



Works great so far. Make sure you have all KDE headers and compile it from source.

 

[n0cmonkey]

<< Ok, just to do this one RPM I have to find and install all these others?
For this one kdeartwork-3.0.0-3.i386.rpm

I am given these as missing dependencies
kwin.so
libcups.so.2
libdcop.so.4
libdecore.so.4
libkdefx.so.4
libkdeui.so.4
libqt-mt.so.3

Where do I find these at? Why do I have to install so many packages? Is there something easier than using the RPMs? >>



There are easier things than rpms, but RedHat doesnt use them

rpmfind.net should help you out a lot with those. Good luck.

 

[jlemieux]

Thanks, let me ask this. What is the best way to go if not redhat? I have used both Suse and Mandrake in the past. Since I am just building this system perhaps I should change course and move away from redhat.

 

[n0cmonkey]

<< Thanks, let me ask this. What is the best way to go if not redhat? >>



Thats a subjective question. So all the answers would be opinions. In my opinion, Debian and Slackware are better solutions. I am not as new though, so setting things up by hand isnt as tough for me.



<< I have used both Suse and Mandrake in the past. >>



All three of these are rpm based. rpms could be much better, but right now they are basic packages. Debian's apt is a much easier solution (great for lazy people like myself). But I learned a lot of my linux stuff on slackware which does not have a good package manager, so I ended up compiling almost everything then. Not the easiest and I ran into a lot of problems.



<< Since I am just building this system perhaps I should change course and move away from redhat. >>



RedHat is not a bad solution, you will just have to learn how to deal with rpms. I never had the patience to deal with it.

 

[jlemieux]

Thanks, I think I will just tough it out for now and keep banging at it to get this done. One thing I noticed when looking at that site is that most of the dependencies I am missing are from KDE2 packages. So should I install 2 and then just install 3? I read in the readme that you should remove 2 before doing 3. I am so confused. I really do appreciate all the help you have given me. Thanks.

 

[n0cmonkey]

<< Thanks, I think I will just tough it out for now and keep banging at it to get this done. One thing I noticed when looking at that site is that most of the dependencies I am missing are from KDE2 packages. So should I install 2 and then just install 3? I read in the readme that you should remove 2 before doing 3. I am so confused. I really do appreciate all the help you have given me. Thanks. >>



Dont bother with v2. Read through the readmes and whatnot and see if there are any better instructions.

EDIT: Here are some instructions. Not sure how much they will help.

 

[jlemieux]

cd /where/you/downloaded/the/KDE3/RPMS
rpm -e `rpm -qa |egrep ^kde`
rpm -Uvh *rpm


I saw this last night. My problem was this, I did this and got error messages saying that there were dependencies that would be broken. How can I login to the console without using a gui?

 

[n0cmonkey]

<< cd /where/you/downloaded/the/KDE3/RPMS
rpm -e `rpm -qa |egrep ^kde`
rpm -Uvh *rpm


I saw this last night. My problem was this, I did this and got error messages saying that there were dependencies that would be broken. How can I login to the console without using a gui? >>



Either start up in init level 3, or hit ctrl alt F2

 

[jlemieux]

Thanks again, I feel like I need to start paying you $75 an hour.

 

[n0cmonkey]

<< Thanks again, I feel like I need to start paying you $75 an hour. >>



Nah, I dont charge that much usually

 

[LordJezo]

<< jlemieux: Here is the order I'm having to go in for source install, so I assume you'll have to do the same for RPM's -

arts
kdelibs
kdebase
kdebindings
<everything else in any order but do kdegraphics before kdeartwork> >>



What is this kdebindings you speak of.. it this a package name or what because I dont see it listed in the download directory for KDE 3.

 

[MGMorden]

I've got kdebindings source (just grabbed it with the rest from the ftp site). It's just for tying in things like Java and stuff. Maybe it was integrated into some other packages for the precompiled stuff, but it's definately there as a source .tar.bz2 file. You probably could get away with not compiling it before the rest, but it just seems more safe to me since it's a library collection and the others are mostly binary apps.

EDIT: And BTW, I'm STILL not done compiling the sources. Man this has been a long frickin day (since 9AM this morning I think I've been in my room at most 2 hours out of nearly 15).