KDS 19" CRT Monitor $67AR IS Back

[richardrds]

Received mine on Friday. Loaded the KDS driver on XPsp2.

At 1024 x 768 you can select 60/70/72/75/85/100 Hertz, Highest mine would run was 85 Hz, This matches what the manual says and it looks good at this rate.

At 1280 x 1024 you can select 60/70/72/75/85 Hertz, Highest mine would run was 75 Hz, This matches what the manual says and it looks good at this rate.

At 1600 x 1200 you can select 60/70/72/75 Hertz, Highest mine would run was 60 Hz, the manual says it supports 1600 x 1200 but does not mention the refresh rate, so 60 seems to be it.

I will leave mine in 1280 x 1024 (75Hz) for regular use and gaming. Looks good at this resolution. I was planing on using 1600 x 1200 for gaming but since it only supports 60Hz refresh i am not happy with that. Instead i will just use the 1280 x 1024 (75Hz) for gaming and set my Nvidia 6800Video card up for 4 x AA, 8 x AF to make up for the resolution loss. This should work well for gamers as long as you have a 6600Gt/6800 or better Nividia GPU. For those of you with ATI i think a 9700Pro/9800Pro or higher would work out OK with this recomendation also.

Would have been nice if it supported 85Hz in 1280 x 1024 mode, or supported 75Hz in 1600 x 1200 mode, but all-in-all this is still a great deal for $67 and i am glad i replaced my old 17" monitor with this one.

 

[Sniper82]

Originally posted by: richardrds
Received mine on Friday. Loaded the KDS driver on XPsp2.

At 1024 x 768 you can select 60/70/72/75/85/100 Hertz, Highest mine would run was 85 Hz, This matches what the manual says and it looks good at this rate.

At 1280 x 1024 you can select 60/70/72/75/85 Hertz, Highest mine would run was 75 Hz, This matches what the manual says and it looks good at this rate.

At 1600 x 1200 you can select 60/70/72/75 Hertz, Highest mine would run was 60 Hz, the manual says it supports 1600 x 1200 but does not mention the refresh rate, so 60 seems to be it.

I will leave mine in 1280 x 1024 (75Hz) for regular use and gaming. Looks good at this resolution. I was planing on using 1600 x 1200 for gaming but since it only supports 60Hz refresh i am not happy with that. Instead i will just use the 1280 x 1024 (75Hz) for gaming and set my Nvidia 6800Video card up for 4 x AA, 8 x AF to make up for the resolution loss. This should work well for gamers as long as you have a 6600Gt/6800 or better Nividia GPU. For those of you with ATI i think a 9700Pro/9800Pro or higher would work out OK with this recomendation also.

Would have been nice if it supported 85Hz in 1280 x 1024 mode, or supported 75Hz in 1600 x 1200 mode, but all-in-all this is still a great deal for $67 and i am glad i replaced my old 17" monitor with this one.

Is being use to 1024x768@85 gonna bother my eyes going to 1280x1024@75? Could you tell a difference? Or did you not run 1024x768@85 on your old montior? Owell my bro is buying my year old low budget Envision 17" for $75. If I get the rebates I will be getting a upgrade basicly for free I might even be making a few bucks.

 

[richardrds]

Originally posted by: ^Sniper^

Originally posted by: richardrds
Received mine on Friday. Loaded the KDS driver on XPsp2.

At 1024 x 768 you can select 60/70/72/75/85/100 Hertz, Highest mine would run was 85 Hz, This matches what the manual says and it looks good at this rate.

At 1280 x 1024 you can select 60/70/72/75/85 Hertz, Highest mine would run was 75 Hz, This matches what the manual says and it looks good at this rate.

At 1600 x 1200 you can select 60/70/72/75 Hertz, Highest mine would run was 60 Hz, the manual says it supports 1600 x 1200 but does not mention the refresh rate, so 60 seems to be it.

I will leave mine in 1280 x 1024 (75Hz) for regular use and gaming. Looks good at this resolution. I was planing on using 1600 x 1200 for gaming but since it only supports 60Hz refresh i am not happy with that. Instead i will just use the 1280 x 1024 (75Hz) for gaming and set my Nvidia 6800Video card up for 4 x AA, 8 x AF to make up for the resolution loss. This should work well for gamers as long as you have a 6600Gt/6800 or better Nividia GPU. For those of you with ATI i think a 9700Pro/9800Pro or higher would work out OK with this recomendation also.

Would have been nice if it supported 85Hz in 1280 x 1024 mode, or supported 75Hz in 1600 x 1200 mode, but all-in-all this is still a great deal for $67 and i am glad i replaced my old 17" monitor with this one.

Is being use to 1024x768@85 gonna bother my eyes going to 1280x1024@75? Could you tell a difference? Or did you not run 1024x768@85 on your old montior?

I used to run 1024x768 on my old 17" monitor because regular use (web browsing, couple apps, gamiing) text was too small for me at 1280x1024. The nice thing is since the new 19" monitor is 2" bigger diagnaly text at 1280x1024 looks fine for me now. My old monitor only supported 72Hz refresh so i can't say for sure if going from 85 to 75Hz is going to bother you. For me i am actually getting a 3Hz increase in refresh rate even thoough i am going to a better resolution because my old monitor was a cheap one.
All i can say is the 1280x1024 @ 75Hz looks great to me on my monitor, I notice no flickering at all during gaming and my eyes do not get tired or irritated unless i am at the PC playing for long period of times (over 4 hous straight without taking a break). My favorite game (online Aces High2 WWII Combat Flight Simulator) is very addictive and sometimes i am at the PC for 8 hours straight, LOL!!!!

 

[c627627]

Originally posted by: VirtualLarry

Originally posted by: c627627
You know full well you rarely can burn CDRs at 52x speeds even if media and burner are capable of 52x burning speeds. Unless you're using top notch top of the line products, you need to drop things down a bit.

Likewise, this monitor is really 1280x1024 at 75 Hz as are most moderately priced CRT monitors whose specs claim max 1600x1200...etc...

That's not really true, products should perform at advertised specs, or they are defective.
I had a 19" MAG (cost $500 at the time), claimed specs were max 1600x1200 @ 66Hz, managed to "overclock" it and convince it to run at 70Hz, but it caused the entire display to shift over.... It also died a couple of years later

Likewise, I have not problems burning even cheaper 52x-rated CMC media in my 52x Lite-On burner, and it works, although it can cause FMV skipping during the intro of some games.

"I have not problems burning even cheaper 52x-rated... media .... although it can cause FMV skipping..."

Your own analogy = (equals) the fact that this monitor perhaps is physically able to do 1600x1200 but not at acceptable levels like it can with 1280x1024 at 75 Hz which is what most people run monitors of this type at...

 

[neildoug]

I have both the 9b (got it last year) and the 9s (got from this deal)--they both appear to be wonderful. They are big, but they work just fine for everyday stuff (1152x864 at 85hz). I would not hesitate to get another (at this price, I am almost thinking of getting one for work, parents, etc).

No complaints, other than I still have to send in the rebates, but I have no "official" rebate.

 

[Sniper82]

I just got the 9S and tried using the 9B driver and it lets me choose 1280x1024 but the screen looks little jumpy. Only 1024x768 looks ok at 85. Any high and it hurts my eyes. Might just be where I went from one monitor to this one and my eyes just need to adjust? I know you have to do this with mouses(get use to them) but I haven't owned enough monitors to know as I don't buy them often.

Also is contrast suppost to be set at 100 by default?

 

[Sniper82]

This monitor is well worth the $67 but without the rebates its not worth it. So hopefully they will come through on it. I am having problems getting the screen right even at 1024x768@85. Finally got it to look decent. So when I play games at 1280x1024 am I gonna have to adjust the screen everytime I play?

When I set the game at 1280x1024 the screen is off some.

 

[poopy]

i just received my monitor today, and i noticed that the left and right sides of the monitor do not seem as clear as the middle section. does anyone else have this problem?

 

[Sniper82]

Originally posted by: poopy
i just received my monitor today, and i noticed that the left and right sides of the monitor do not seem as clear as the middle section. does anyone else have this problem?

Do you mean the screen(under the flat glass) is turned a little? If so then yes mine is the same way. No matter how much I resize the screen it will never adjust completely right.

If I don't get my rebates I will never purchase another KDS but if I do then this will still be a good deal.

 

[hypaspazz]

This monitor works at 1600x1200@70Hz on Nvidia 6800 cards. I did this by selecting 70Hz after showing modes that are "unsupported". It shows horizontal 87.6 and vertical 70.1 when I pop-up the OSD. My old ATI 9500 card won't drive it at 70Hz because it runs at horitontal 87.3 and vertical 69.

It states on the KDS website and the Office Depot site that it will run 1600x1200@75 which is utter BS IMHO. If the rebates weren't offered I would be PO'd. With the Rebates it is cheaper than a 17" CRT.

 

[Miramonti]

Originally posted by: poopy
i just received my monitor today, and i noticed that the left and right sides of the monitor do not seem as clear as the middle section. does anyone else have this problem?

Mine's pretty sharp corner to corner and in the middle, fortunately. Playing with the moire might help. Mine is set at 0 and 18. Otherwise yours probably has some ghosting, which sucks.

I've decided to keep mine...I really wanted 16x12@75 but its very sharp and very cheap so its good enough.

 

[richardrds]

Help, I am an idiot and i can't find the UPC code on the box, LOL!!! I am filling out the rebate forms (must be post marked by 2-12-05) and i can't find the damn UPC code on the box. Can someone tell me where it is located.

I did find a bar code on the box, but it does not say UPC next to it, and there is an identicle bar code on the side opposite to it ( i thought UPC codes were only one per box so i don't think the bar code i am looking at is the UPC code).

Can someone tell me where the UPC code is located on the box, maybe the UPS shipping label is placed over it on mine, but i don't think so.

Any help would be appreciated, i don't want to miss out on $80 dollars worth of rebates!!

 

[Sniper82]

Originally posted by: richardrds
Help, I am an idiot and i can't find the UPC code on the box, LOL!!! I am filling out the rebate forms (must be post marked by 2-12-05) and i can't find the damn UPC code on the box. Can someone tell me where it is located.

I did find a bar code on the box, but it does not say UPC next to it, and there is an identicle bar cose on the side opposite to it ( i thought UPC codes were only one per box so i don't think the bar code i am looking at is the UPC code).

Can someone tell me where the bar code is located on the box, maybe the UPS sticker is placed over it on mine, but i don't think so.

Any help would be appreciated, i don't want to miss out on $80 dollars worth of rebates!!

Well I couldnt find nothing but the bar code and serial number so I just sent them in. I thought the bar code was the same as the UPC? If no then I am gonna be PO'ed because I done shipped them out.

 

[Quadriflax]

Originally posted by: richardrds
Can someone tell me where the UPC code is located on the box, maybe the UPS shipping label is placed over it on mine, but i don't think so.

Yes, that's the UPC. And yes, there are two of them on the box. IIRC, one requires the original UPC and serial number, the other requires a copy of the UPC. In this case you could technically send an original UPC to both rebates. I've done this deal twice and haven't had a problem.

 

[richardrds]

Thanks Quadriflax!!!!!

 

[CrazyCoolDealz]

bump its back

 

[Sniper82]

has anyone got their rebates back yet from last month? Just curious.

 

[BlueKit]

I just got a notice yesterday that my $50 was valid. Went to www.expressgroup.com and said they both qualified.

 

[TekViper]

is there a new $30 rebate? the only one im seeing needs you to purchase by 01/29/05. The $50 dollare rebate is still valid if you click on the Rebate Savings link on the office depot page.

 

[Sniper82]

Originally posted by: BlueKit
I just got a notice yesterday that my $50 was valid. Went to www.expressgroup.com and said they both qualified.

just checked that aswell. I am to

Wonder about the $30 rebate?

 

[ToxicMussels]

Originally posted by: CrazyCoolDealz
bump its back

But not for the original price.
Price now (thru 02/26)
$179.99
-$50.00 + $30.00 MIR
= $99.99

TekViper, the $30.00 rebate is on their site and is good thru today.

 

[Balex99]

I have my $50 rebate verified but I am still waiting on the $30 one. It is not showing up yet. I talked to a csr at Express Group and he said to give it a week to show up and if it does not then give them a call and I may have to reship the rebate info.

 

[oslama]

ITs now on clearance for $114.02 - 50 mir - 30mir makes it $34.02

i tried ordering it online but my cart was disabled and when i went back the price was raised to $199.98

i will try a store

 

[ttown]

Originally posted by: oslama
ITs now on clearance for $114.02 - 50 mir - 30mir makes it $34.02

i tried ordering it online but my cart was disabled and when i went back the price was raised to $199.98

i will try a store

Just tried their website and it says they are "currently experiencing difficulty..."
Were the rebates you mentioned on the web-site and valid today? Were the rebates available in-store? More details! I'd hate to drive around hunting one down only to find the rebates are expired.

I already have 2 of these monitors, and for $34 AR I wouldn't have any problem getting a third for a back-up.

 

[oslama]

According to Tceh Bragins the rebates are instore only. i was able to order one @$114.02 a few minutes ago.

NO free mini fridge or suitcase offers/coupons are going thru.

but i can't complain

hopefully my previous rebates wont disqualify me for this rebate offer.