KDS 19" CRT Monitor $67AR IS Back

[Pianolady]

Try the driver link from here. Would this be the correct driver?

 

[Miramonti]

Originally posted by: Pianolady
Try the driver link from here. Would this be the correct driver?

Thanks. That link is strange, only includes a ".inf" file and when installing it, it looks for a fils called "xf9b.icm".

I found the complete package at driverguide.com, but am still not getting 1600x1200@75hz with it. I'm not sure this is the same as a b/bi model.

 

[Pianolady]

I finally found the entire package also from Here.

I am getting 1600X1200@75hz with it. I do have the 19" XF-9S. Maybe try that one? I'd think it's the same thing though.

 

[Miramonti]

Originally posted by: Pianolady
I finally found the entire package also from Here.

I am getting 1600X1200@75hz with it. I do have the 19" XF-9S. Maybe try that one? I'd think it's the same thing though.

That file links to driverguide as well, same file I found (vsxflcd.exe). What is your model number on the back? Mine is 986N.

I called KDS tech support (800-283-1311) and he said that he didn't think it does more than 70hz.

 

[Pianolady]

Originally posted by: jjsole
That file links to driverguide as well, same file I found (vsxflcd.exe). What is your model number on the back? Mine is 986N.

Mine is a 986N, so obviously the support person is mistaken.

 

[Miramonti]

Originally posted by: Pianolady

Originally posted by: jjsole
That file links to driverguide as well, same file I found (vsxflcd.exe). What is your model number on the back? Mine is 986N.

Mine is a 986N, so obviously the support person is mistaken.

What a bummer, I think I got the poor mans version of this model then.

 

[c627627]

Usually, it's one down on the resolution of CRT average monitors,
meaning expect no problems at 1280x1024 at 75 Hz

not 1600x1200 at 75 Hz.

 

[jamori]

Originally posted by: ToxicMussels
Maximum Resolution :
1600 x 1200 @75 Hz

Optimal Resolution :
1280 x 1024 @ 85 Hz

I just got mine in today; the box says XF-9s. Office depot has it listed at 16x12@75, also.

So I set my monitor to 1600x1200 and notice that it seems to be flickering quite a bit. Drop into advanced settings, and the only refresh rate available at 16x12 is 60Hz. Okay, so I double-check the product page. It definitely says: "1600 x 1200 max resolution @ 75 Hz"

So I uncheck the box to show me the rest of the refresh rates and select 75Hz, hit apply.

I get a nice big black screen on my monitor that says "FREQUENCY OUT OF RANGE. TRY OTHER RESOLUTIONS"

I went back and triple-checked that I was in the resolution and refresh rate that I meant to be: I am.

What's going on?? The best I can do is 1280x1024@75 or 1600x1200@60.

I know everyone is saying "you get what you pay for", but it clearly says that this monitor should do 1600x1200@75hz, and IT DOESN'T

I called officedepot and they offered to let me return it .. I don't want to return it, though; I want the monitor to run at its advertised specs!

I went to KDS's website and downloaded the drivers for the monitor .. same problem.

Someone help!?

 

[Miramonti]

Originally posted by: c627627
Usually, it's one down on the resolution of CRT average monitors,
meaning expect no problems at 1280x1024 at 75 Hz

not 1600x1200 at 75 Hz.

If it says it will do 1600x1200 @ 75 hz, it has to be able to do it out of the box, atleast initially imo even tho it is harder on the monitor and may limit its shelflife.

 

[Miramonti]

Originally posted by: jamori

Originally posted by: ToxicMussels
Maximum Resolution :
1600 x 1200 @75 Hz

Optimal Resolution :
1280 x 1024 @ 85 Hz

I just got mine in today; the box says XF-9s. Office depot has it listed at 16x12@75, also.

So I set my monitor to 1600x1200 and notice that it seems to be flickering quite a bit. Drop into advanced settings, and the only refresh rate available at 16x12 is 60Hz. Okay, so I double-check the product page. It definitely says: "1600 x 1200 max resolution @ 75 Hz"

So I uncheck the box to show me the rest of the refresh rates and select 75Hz, hit apply.

I get a nice big black screen on my monitor that says "FREQUENCY OUT OF RANGE. TRY OTHER RESOLUTIONS"

I went back and triple-checked that I was in the resolution and refresh rate that I meant to be: I am.

What's going on?? The best I can do is 1280x1024@75 or 1600x1200@60.

I know everyone is saying "you get what you pay for", but it clearly says that this monitor should do 1600x1200@75hz, and IT DOESN'T

I called officedepot and they offered to let me return it .. I don't want to return it, though; I want the monitor to run at its advertised specs!

I went to KDS's website and downloaded the drivers for the monitor .. same problem.

Someone help!?

Ok, now I know not to feel 'picked on' from above by being the only one with this problem.

If you go to kds.com, you (probably) won't find anything that says the XF-9s does 16x12 @ 75hz, if you do please post it. So far its only the Office Depot that has this spec. Its not on the kds box or in the literature either. :frown:

(Btw, after trying 75hz, I had to set it at 60hz before I was able to get it to work @70hz. At 70hz its not as good as 75, but it may be enough for me to keep it.)

 

[jamori]

Originally posted by: jjsole
Ok, now I know not to feel 'picked on' from above by being the only one with this problem.

If you go to kds.com, you (probably) won't find anything that says the XF-9s does 16x12 @ 75hz, if you do please post it. So far its only the Office Depot that has this spec. Its not on the kds box or in the literature either. :frown:

(Btw, after trying 75hz, I had to set it at 60hz before I was able to get it to work @70hz. At 70hz its not as good as 75, but it may be enough for me to keep it.)

My model is also 986N

I suppose I do feel better not being the ONLY one who can't get this to work at 75... I can get it to run at 70 Hz, but the picture is (initially) HORRIBLY distorted, and even after 10 minutes of messing with the settings, I can't get it looking right...

I'm currently running using the XF-9b driver, as that's the best I could find. I downloaded and installed the VSXFLCD.exe file from driversguide, but it only had the 9b.

This is rather frustrating. I just called that same KDS support number and the guy is going to call me back in the morning when people who know what they're doing are there.

I was just leafing through the owner's manual, and the timing guide doesnt even show that it will run at 1600x1200. On the next page it says that it does, but doesnt specify a refresh rate.

Even at lower resolutions, does anyone else notice that the entire picture is .. shaking? It looks like everything is moving back and forth by a pixel or so several times a second (look at the edges of the picture...)

 

[CarpetMan]

I just got mine today. It's xf-9s and I have it set at 1280X720 at 85 mhz

 

[Miramonti]

Originally posted by: jamori

Originally posted by: jjsole
Ok, now I know not to feel 'picked on' from above by being the only one with this problem.

If you go to kds.com, you (probably) won't find anything that says the XF-9s does 16x12 @ 75hz, if you do please post it. So far its only the Office Depot that has this spec. Its not on the kds box or in the literature either. :frown:

(Btw, after trying 75hz, I had to set it at 60hz before I was able to get it to work @70hz. At 70hz its not as good as 75, but it may be enough for me to keep it.)

My model is also 986N

I suppose I do feel better not being the ONLY one who can't get this to work at 75... I can get it to run at 70 Hz, but the picture is (initially) HORRIBLY distorted, and even after 10 minutes of messing with the settings, I can't get it looking right...

I'm currently running using the XF-9b driver, as that's the best I could find. I downloaded and installed the VSXFLCD.exe file from driversguide, but it only had the 9b.

This is rather frustrating. I just called that same KDS support number and the guy is going to call me back in the morning when people who know what they're doing are there.

I was just leafing through the owner's manual, and the timing guide doesnt even show that it will run at 1600x1200. On the next page it says that it does, but doesnt specify a refresh rate.

Even at lower resolutions, does anyone else notice that the entire picture is .. shaking? It looks like everything is moving back and forth by a pixel or so several times a second (look at the edges of the picture...)

It definitely took a lot of playing with too to get the picture decent - reducing the brightness, and adjusting the trapezoid and pincushion and framing etc. It has a slight shake as well.

 

[Sniper82]

ordered mine on the 25th and for some reason I was told it wouldnt be delivered till the 31st. Will I still be able to get the rebates they end on the 29th.

 

[Sniper82]

anyone know?

 

[betterkarma4519]

I think that your receipt will show a purchase date within the "rebate period" (Jan 23rd-Jan 29th I think) so as long as you send the rebates in by Feb 12th, you should be fine

 

[Superdoopercooper]

Originally posted by: jamori

Originally posted by: ToxicMussels
Maximum Resolution :
1600 x 1200 @75 Hz

Optimal Resolution :
1280 x 1024 @ 85 Hz

I just got mine in today; the box says XF-9s. Office depot has it listed at 16x12@75, also.

So I set my monitor to 1600x1200 and notice that it seems to be flickering quite a bit. Drop into advanced settings, and the only refresh rate available at 16x12 is 60Hz. Okay, so I double-check the product page. It definitely says: "1600 x 1200 max resolution @ 75 Hz"

So I uncheck the box to show me the rest of the refresh rates and select 75Hz, hit apply.

I get a nice big black screen on my monitor that says "FREQUENCY OUT OF RANGE. TRY OTHER RESOLUTIONS"

I went back and triple-checked that I was in the resolution and refresh rate that I meant to be: I am.

What's going on?? The best I can do is 1280x1024@75 or 1600x1200@60.

I know everyone is saying "you get what you pay for", but it clearly says that this monitor should do 1600x1200@75hz, and IT DOESN'T

I called officedepot and they offered to let me return it .. I don't want to return it, though; I want the monitor to run at its advertised specs!

I went to KDS's website and downloaded the drivers for the monitor .. same problem.

Someone help!?

I have the EXACT same problem. Ugh.

The box on mine says "XF-9bi". I wonder if I got the super poor man's version? It looks decent at 12x10, but I want 16x12 with more than 60Hz.

I guess for $80 after tax, I can't complain too much, esp with a 3 year warranty. I got killed by a $80 AR AMW 19" from CC. One year warranty. After 8 months, the brightness just totally went south. So, it will cost my ~$20-25 to ship it back under RMA. Which is why I bought this... to at least hold me over. The good thing about AMW monitor is that it will do 16x12 by at least 75Hz.

 

[ChineseGuy]

crap... anyone has the actual coupon emailed to them? I need it to pick it up... Stupid pick up manager won't let me pick up because i don't have the actual coupon.. Any AT-ers have the actual email they can foward to me?

 

[Miramonti]

Originally posted by: ChineseGuy
crap... anyone has the actual coupon emailed to them? I need it to pick it up... Stupid pick up manager won't let me pick up because i don't have the actual coupon.. Any AT-ers have the actual email they can foward to me?

option: cancel order, reorder/select free shipping.

 

[ChineseGuy]

i found a link over at fatwallet... It got me passed that lady doing the pickup....

http://www.officedepot.com/pro...es/coupon_30off150.jsp

Hopefully this will help anyone that had my situation. Even though it says exculdes monitors, the code still works, and they didn't bother reading the fine print.

-Ko

 

[c627627]

You know full well you rarely can burn CDRs at 52x speeds even if media and burner are capable of 52x burning speeds. Unless you're using top notch top of the line products, you need to drop things down a bit.

Likewise, this monitor is really 1280x1024 at 75 Hz as are most moderately priced CRT monitors whose specs claim max 1600x1200...etc...

 

[thatzachguy]

Hey everyone, I noticed some people having problems with some of the monitors. I just wanted to confirm that I got a XF-9s through this deal and mine does do the 1600 x 1200 @ 75Hz, but only if you uncheck the "Hide ... " button. It isn't clear enough for desktop work but would probably be fine for games. 1280 x 1024 @ 75Hz is the highest I think anyone could really expect to use if for day-to-day use. Also im not using any drivers... its just as a "plug and play monitor".

If you ask me, someone at Office Depot screwed and put the specs wrong. The manual and box both say the monitor can support 1600 x 1200, but neither say at 75Hz. Hope this helps.

 

[Sniper82]

I think 1600x1200 would make stuff way to small on a 19". Does it support 1280x1024@85? Hows that look?

EDIT: According to their site the XF-9bi supports 1600x1200@75 and I thought the bi was suppost to be the worse of the 3? Of course their site is probably wrong to. I don't even see the S version listed.

http://www.kdsusa.com/product_...ils.asp?prod=233&sub=c

 

[VirtualLarry]

Originally posted by: c627627
You know full well you rarely can burn CDRs at 52x speeds even if media and burner are capable of 52x burning speeds. Unless you're using top notch top of the line products, you need to drop things down a bit.

Likewise, this monitor is really 1280x1024 at 75 Hz as are most moderately priced CRT monitors whose specs claim max 1600x1200...etc...

That's not really true, products should perform at advertised specs, or they are defective.
I had a 19" MAG (cost $500 at the time), claimed specs were max 1600x1200 @ 66Hz, managed to "overclock" it and convince it to run at 70Hz, but it caused the entire display to shift over, which I had to correct using the OSD and the video cards' horizontal timing adjustment settings. It also died a couple of years later, due to "zapping", but I'm pretty-sure it was defective from the mfg, as it made zapping noises since the day I owned it, before I decided to push the refresh a little bit. That may have accellerated its pre-mature downfall though. It still had great HV regulation in terms of the white/black thing though, so that might not have been what killed it, usually problems with the HV will show up in that test on the Nokia montest app.

Likewise, I have not problems burning even cheaper 52x-rated CMC media in my 52x Lite-On burner, and it works, although it can cause FMV skipping during the intro of some games. 32x is a "safer" max speed for non-Mode1 discs.

But anyways, the reason that I mentioned that is, the specs on the KDS sound similar to my older 19" MAG, so you could probably "push" your refresh a little bit higher, but fair warning, YMMV on its effect on longevity.

Then again, a newer version of that monitor was sold a few years later at Wal-Mart, and the box explicitly mentioned 1600x1200 @ 70 or maybe 76Hz support. So I guess sometimes the specs get changed, on the high-end. I guess they assume that no-one in their right mind would attempt to "push" a consumer-grade monitor that high, which is what you are saying, those numbers are a sort of asymtotic "max" spec, not an actually-achievable one. (I saw the newer 19" MAG model in operation at 1600x1200, it wasn't nearly as sharp and clear and jitter-free as my older unit was, sadly. It had a nearly-perfect picture, with a tiny bit of moire, before it died.) It will be a sad day, when things like mobos start to be advertised and sold as "8x AGP max", when they have a chipset that only supports 4x AGP period. I guess that will be when computer parts have fully and unequivocably entered the arena of consumer-product marketing. Power-supply ratings are alreadly likewise well on their way there.

 

[Sniper82]

I was hopeing to run this monitor in 1280x(whatever) at 85hz when I get it monday. It won't be much of a upgrade from my 17" if I can't run it at that.