KERRY WILL CONCEDE AT 1PM EST

[konichiwa]

Originally posted by: DT4K

Originally posted by: Grakatt
Did every evangelist in your country stand up almost straight and walk off to vote yesterday? My my, I do believe so. This is one of my current favourite quotes:

"ROVE: I think as we get to the end, people in all states are thinking about who will be best to lead us in the War on Terror. Who is the person with vision and clarity and moral resolve to fight the enemy until the enemy is completely defeated? And people understand that's George W. Bush"

Can the 'war on terror' be won? Completely, as stated? In 4 years? With a continuation of the methods of the last 4 years?
No, No, No.
Either Rove is so used to manipulating the truth he wouldn't recognize it if it dragged him to a park and beat him with a large branch, (meaning he believes what he's saying, which is scary), or he is lying, and aware of it.

:Q

Viscious insults and attacks against christians from an "open-minded" liberal?
Who would have expected that?

<blatant sterotype>I guess Kerry didn't get enough of his welfare bum and communist supporters to put down their crack pipes long enough to get to the polls.</blatant sterotype>

:roll:

Not really sure how you can characterize his post as "viscious insults and attacks" against Christians when he's just noticing, as most of the media commented, that the evangelical vote came out in full force for Bush this time around...

 

[Genx87]

Daschele was a problem.

Maybe now with a majority they can get to work on the Social Security overhaul, tax overhaul, and push other programs.

I think the media played down the importance of the filibusters the democrats performed during Bush's first term.

 

[Corn]

Originally posted by: konichiwa

Originally posted by: DT4K

Originally posted by: Grakatt
Did every evangelist in your country stand up almost straight and walk off to vote yesterday? My my, I do believe so. This is one of my current favourite quotes:

"ROVE: I think as we get to the end, people in all states are thinking about who will be best to lead us in the War on Terror. Who is the person with vision and clarity and moral resolve to fight the enemy until the enemy is completely defeated? And people understand that's George W. Bush"

Can the 'war on terror' be won? Completely, as stated? In 4 years? With a continuation of the methods of the last 4 years?
No, No, No.
Either Rove is so used to manipulating the truth he wouldn't recognize it if it dragged him to a park and beat him with a large branch, (meaning he believes what he's saying, which is scary), or he is lying, and aware of it.

:Q

Viscious insults and attacks against christians from an "open-minded" liberal?
Who would have expected that?

<blatant sterotype>I guess Kerry didn't get enough of his welfare bum and communist supporters to put down their crack pipes long enough to get to the polls.</blatant sterotype>

:roll:

Not really sure how you can characterize his post as "viscious insults and attacks" against Christians when he's just noticing, as most of the media commented, that the evangelical vote came out in full force for Bush this time around...

I guess you are as blind as a bat. Please note the text I bolded in the first sentence of his original post......and the the following quote that he added in just to solidify his point:

And to think the majority of Americans are spiteful now.. blind, blind, blind, blind, stupid, arrogant, reckless, stupid, stupid, stupid.

 

[dmcowen674]

11-3-2004 Bush Wins Race As Kerry Concedes

"Congratulations, Mr. President," Kerry said in the conversation described by sources as lasting less than five minutes.

Kerry ended his quest, concluding one of the most expensive and bitterly contested races on record, with a call to the president shortly after 11 a.m. EST, according to two officials familiar with the conversation.


Bush Wins Race As Kerry Concedes

 

[TravisT]

I am glad it is over.

 

[XBoxLPU]

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
This nation is still a house divided. Bush has his work cut. I personally hope he plunges head strong into paying off national debt and eliminating the deficit.

Haha

Bush,paying off national debt and eliminating the deficit dont even belong in the same sentence....

 

[SparkyJJO]

Originally posted by: EMPshockwave82
personally i feel that almost every candidate running in this election was a boob... and that's for almost every position.... there needs to be some changes before the next election... dont worry, people will finally see how terrible of a job bush is doing. they will realize he lies, cheats and steals. i think the citizens of the united states will finally notice how politically one sided the media is as well.

4 more years will tell *weeps for future*

Bush doesn't lie, cheat, or steal - Actually you were describing Clinton, Gore, Kerry, the whole lot of them.

Yes, the media is one-sided too - liberal, anti-conservative for the most part. I was actually pleasantly surprised when the local newspaper that is always so liberal actually endorsed Bush - at least they saw that Kerry was completely unfit for president.

Originally posted by: XBoxLPU
Haha

Bush,paying off national debt and eliminating the deficit dont even belong in the same sentence....

Like, your spending-happy liberals do any better by spending all sorts of money on everything.... :roll:

YAY BUSH! 4 MORE YEARS! I am soooo happy

 

[40Hands]

Wow this election just made it clear how many Americans vote without knowing anything but wedge issues and talking points. (can we please have a basic fact comprehension test before people are allowed to vote?) The the majority of issues that Bush voters were worried about at the polls were moral values and terrorism. "Dubya has protected us from another attack since nine one one, what has Kerry done?!" Run little sheep, run! IMO: I think the spread of Bush voters was about 70% moral Christian fund-a-mental case who believed all the BS republican smears on Kerry, Iraq connection to 9/11, etc. While the other 30% knew everything but were too greedy about the government "stealing" their money to agree that Bush is a failure.

May whichever god bless our united states of greed and ignorance.

oh yes and to the 70% I was talking about above, please save your washed up "if you don't like it you can geeet out" comments because luckily I have faith that eventually we will turn this country back in right direction.

*zzzzzzzziip*

 

[bozack]

Originally posted by: conjur
Yes...it's over. Bush has won.



May the rest of the America now see what a failure he is.

To quote DonVito...

Originally posted by: DonVito

That's despicable. Yours is an unpatriotic, nondefensible position IMO. You make me sick. I honestly can't respect anything else that comes out of your mouth. I thought you were a respectable person, and now I know you're not.

 

[seawolf21]

Originally posted by: fallenangel99
why would kerry concede? i mean who knows what those uncounted votes hold...

kerry should have fought for all those votes... cant give up that easily

As I posted in the other thread...kerry needs 77% to 88% (depending on how provisional ballots) just to tie Bush in OH.

 

[judasmachine]

You republicans win. Or at least the democrats beat themselves, as they failed to choose the best canidate in the first place. Either way, congratulations, and I hope our liberal fears are unfounded.

 

[DT4K]

Originally posted by: EMPshockwave82
my prediction is that bush will do something even stupider than the first 4 years of his presidency... many of his underhanded deeds as president ( just like every other president has underhanded deeds as well) will become public knowledge and the country will see

Hey, I understand. It's much easier to believe that the people just don't know the truth like you do, rather than admitting that the majority already knows what Bush is like and supports him.

Originally posted by: arsbanned
Oh, and fvcking up the economy to the point of bankruptcy. :thumbsup:
Great job! Gloat all you want!

LMFAO. Did you blame Bush for the hurricanes too? Don't they teach economics in our schools anymore?

Originally posted by: nakedfrog

Originally posted by: DT4K
Yet another person who doesn't understand that tax cuts often result in an INCREASE in federal tax revenue due to the growth of the economy.

Link?

I could link to a few economists, but they'd be attacked as "right-wing". There is certainly debate about this subject. The point though is that it is simplistic and ignorant to say tax cuts = lower tax revenue and tax increases = higher tax revenue. It is far more complicated than that. In addition to the average tax rate, you also have to consider the state of the economy and how much taxable income is being generated. Unrealistic example, but if you cut the tax rate in half and the economy grew enough that there was twice as much taxable income being generated, the total tax revenue would have stayed exactly the same.
From 1981 - 1989, federal tax revenue increased by 56% despite (or because) of massive tax cuts under the Reagan administration. The large increase in the federal debt under Reagan was NOT due to his tax cuts or a drop in tax revenue, but was due instead to his big increases in defense spending. Supposedly the sky was going to fall because of this debt, but I haven't seen it happen. Reagan's tax cuts may very well be partially responsible for the tech boom of the 90's, which is the main reason that the economy was so strong until the end of Clinton's term.
You have to understand that economic policies have long-term, as well as short-term effects.

 

[Hulk]

Originally posted by: BroeBo
Wow this election just made it clear how many Americans vote without knowing anything but wedge issues and talking points. (can we please have a basic fact comprehension test before people are allowed to vote?) The the majority of issues that Bush voters were worried about at the polls were moral values and terrorism. "Dubya has protected us from another attack since nine one one, what has Kerry done?!" Run little sheep, run! IMO: I think the spread of Bush voters was about 70% moral Christian fund-a-mental case who believed all the BS republican smears on Kerry, Iraq connection to 9/11, etc. While the other 30% knew everything but were too greedy about the government "stealing" their money to agree that Bush is a failure.

May whichever god bless our united states of greed and ignorance.

oh yes and to the 70% I was talking about above, please save your washed up "if you don't like it you can geeet out" comments because luckily I have faith that eventually we will turn this country back in right direction.

*zzzzzzzziip*

Are you really sure you'd like to "test" YOUR voters? I agree that everybody should be informed about the issues but the Democrats thought that "Rock the Vote" "Vote or Die" use Hollywood, use Rock Stars, etc... would get out the vote for them.

You know what? They still LOST.

The Democratic party has to take a long look in the mirror to see where the problem is. The Tim Robbins, Susan Sarandons, Michael Moore's, Bruce Springsteen's alliances ruined a once great party.

You LOST. LOST the electoral vote. LOST the popular vote. Just plain old lost. Get over it.

Oh yeah, please realize that YOU ARE NOT THE MAJORITY!!! Your way of thinking is the minority opinion!

Now as far as uniting the country, that will happen when the Democrats decide to behave like adults, not children.

They're already spewing their venom.

 

[351Cleveland]

Originally posted by: conjur
Yes...it's over. Bush has won.



May the rest of the America now see what a failure he is.

Let me see those grapes...

Yep, they are sour.

 

[Corn]

Originally posted by: BroeBo
Wow this election just made it clear how many Americans vote without knowing anything but wedge issues and talking points. (can we please have a basic fact comprehension test before people are allowed to vote?) The the majority of issues that Bush voters were worried about at the polls were moral values and terrorism. "Dubya has protected us from another attack since nine one one, what has Kerry done?!" Run little sheep, run! IMO: I think the spread of Bush voters was about 70% moral Christian fund-a-mental case who believed all the BS republican smears on Kerry, Iraq connection to 9/11, etc. While the other 30% knew everything but were too greedy about the government "stealing" their money to agree that Bush is a failure.

May whichever god bless our united states of greed and ignorance.

oh yes and to the 70% I was talking about above, please save your washed up "if you don't like it you can geeet out" comments because luckily I have faith that eventually we will turn this country back in right direction.

*zzzzzzzziip*

Awww, ain't that cute!!!!! The agony you must be enduring right now.........

Leftie morons like you and Grakatt sure do make it hard not to be a sore winner. Where is DonVito?

 

[Grakatt]

Originally posted by: Corn

Originally posted by: konichiwa

Originally posted by: DT4K

Originally posted by: Grakatt
Did every evangelist in your country stand up almost straight and walk off to vote yesterday? My my, I do believe so. This is one of my current favourite quotes:

"ROVE: I think as we get to the end, people in all states are thinking about who will be best to lead us in the War on Terror. Who is the person with vision and clarity and moral resolve to fight the enemy until the enemy is completely defeated? And people understand that's George W. Bush"

Can the 'war on terror' be won? Completely, as stated? In 4 years? With a continuation of the methods of the last 4 years?
No, No, No.
Either Rove is so used to manipulating the truth he wouldn't recognize it if it dragged him to a park and beat him with a large branch, (meaning he believes what he's saying, which is scary), or he is lying, and aware of it.

:Q

Viscious insults and attacks against christians from an "open-minded" liberal?
Who would have expected that?

<blatant sterotype>I guess Kerry didn't get enough of his welfare bum and communist supporters to put down their crack pipes long enough to get to the polls.</blatant sterotype>

:roll:

Not really sure how you can characterize his post as "viscious insults and attacks" against Christians when he's just noticing, as most of the media commented, that the evangelical vote came out in full force for Bush this time around...

I guess you are as blind as a bat. Please note the text I bolded in the first sentence of his original post......and the the following quote that he added in just to solidify his point:

And to think the majority of Americans are spiteful now.. blind, blind, blind, blind, stupid, arrogant, reckless, stupid, stupid, stupid.

Read what BroeBo said. If they can stand up just straight and vote for Bush mainly because he has the same values when it comes to faith as they, then they are either in the dark about the other issues, or they are scary.
Anyhow, it doesn't matter..the fact remains: Many who voted are apparently rather clueless or dangerously naive. Either way, it isn't my mess, although in certain indirect ways it affects me a little, as it affects most of the world. The Chief Political Advisor is an infernal lier, or he believes the War on Terror can be won, with the means previously used by him, and in 4 years, too. If he doesn't plan to do away with the election system altogether Funny how no one commented my comments on mr. Rove's words, eh?
Tsk tsk tsk.

Edit. And 'leftie'...godscurse, how many 'conservatives' are upset by mr. Bush &amp; gang's very 'conservative' actions? The word is as hollow as your average Bush-supporter's head. Damnit, there I go again..
Say hello...to all the apples on the ground

 

[buddry]

I am impressed that Kerry conceded already. I figured this would drag on for over a week.

 

[Feldenak]

Originally posted by: Corn

Originally posted by: BroeBo
Wow this election just made it clear how many Americans vote without knowing anything but wedge issues and talking points. (can we please have a basic fact comprehension test before people are allowed to vote?) The the majority of issues that Bush voters were worried about at the polls were moral values and terrorism. "Dubya has protected us from another attack since nine one one, what has Kerry done?!" Run little sheep, run! IMO: I think the spread of Bush voters was about 70% moral Christian fund-a-mental case who believed all the BS republican smears on Kerry, Iraq connection to 9/11, etc. While the other 30% knew everything but were too greedy about the government "stealing" their money to agree that Bush is a failure.

May whichever god bless our united states of greed and ignorance.

oh yes and to the 70% I was talking about above, please save your washed up "if you don't like it you can geeet out" comments because luckily I have faith that eventually we will turn this country back in right direction.

*zzzzzzzziip*

Awww, ain't that cute!!!!! The agony you must be enduring right now.........

Leftie morons like you and Grakatt sure do make it hard not to be a sore winner. Where is DonVito?

DonVito has already respectfully offered congratulations to President Bush and his supporters. He's a much better sport about losing the election than you and some of the other pseudo-conservatives are about winning.

 

[Buz2b]

It is more than predictable when Bush wins that the Dems/Liberals find nothing but fault with it. This time they can't try crying that it was unfair because it was close to a slam dunk. So now they bemoan the future of America, predicting bad economic policies, foreign policies, etc. The Democratic party has become the party of doom and gloom. They are the party that requires failure in order to be successful. Think about it; they need the country to do badly (AND WANT IT) in order to have people look upon them more favorably. I think that was their failure. No one wants to cheer for failure and that's why Bush won so handily. Wake up libs or you will face the same thing in another four years; Hillary or not.

Oh yeah, I almost forgot. :thumbsup: Go BUSH!! :beer::thumbsup:

 

[Grakatt]

Originally posted by: Buz2b
It is more than predictable when Bush wins that the Dems/Liberals find nothing but fault with it. This time they can't try crying that it was unfair because it was close to a slam dunk. So now they bemoan the future of America, predicting bad economic policies, foreign policies, etc. The Democratic party has become the party of doom and gloom. They are the party that requires failure in order to be successful. Think about it; they need the country to do badly (AND WANT IT) in order to have people look upon them more favorably. I think that was their failure. No one wants to cheer for failure and that's why Bush won so handily. Wake up libs or you will face the same thing in another four years; Hillary or not.

Oh yeah, I almost forgot. :thumbsup: Go BUSH!! :beer::thumbsup:

Yes, and may the Christian God bless the U.S.

 

[EMPshockwave82]

Originally posted by: SparkyJJO

Bush doesn't lie, cheat, or steal - Actually you were describing Clinton, Gore, Kerry, the whole lot of them.

Yes, the media is one-sided too - liberal, anti-conservative for the most part. I was actually pleasantly surprised when the local newspaper that is always so liberal actually endorsed Bush - at least they saw that Kerry was completely unfit for president.

This was in responce to me saying that bush "lies cheats and steals"

he is a politician... dont ever say he doesnt lie cheat or steal....

he lies, he has lied to the US about more things than i can count

he cheats, he gives contracts to his friends before allowing bidders to give their fair shake

in responce to the news being liberal/ anti-conservative
last night on fox news (was flipping between fox and cnn constantly) they were giving bush states when he has a 60%/40% split in the state with 2% of precincts reporting... kerry had a state by the same margin with 15% or precincts reporting and they hadnt given him the votes for that yet... this was just last night and an example of what happens every day on fox news and several other outlets

 

[Irrational]

Originally posted by: 351Cleveland

Originally posted by: conjur
Yes...it's over. Bush has won.



May the rest of the America now see what a failure he is.

Let me see those grapes...

Yep, they are sour.

He he:laugh:

I may be new posting in these forums but I've been visiting for over 5 years now. 2 elections have pasted and one thing's remained the same IMO. Many of us aren't picking who we think is best qualified for the position of President. Rather, we're just picking the one least likely to make things worse. That's a dangerous trend. I'm calling all you Democrats out. Competition will change this. Take Intel for example. Your party was great once and in return made the Republicans better. Please, for the sake of our country, deliver an outstanding candidate for 2008. Stopping worrying so much about strict party lines. Frankly, most politicians are like snake-oil salesmen to me. I'll say it again. I implore you to give the GOP a serious scare next time. Or they'll atrophy as badly as your party has. And we'll all lose.

 

[judasmachine]

Originally posted by: Grakatt

Originally posted by: Buz2b
It is more than predictable when Bush wins that the Dems/Liberals find nothing but fault with it. This time they can't try crying that it was unfair because it was close to a slam dunk. So now they bemoan the future of America, predicting bad economic policies, foreign policies, etc. The Democratic party has become the party of doom and gloom. They are the party that requires failure in order to be successful. Think about it; they need the country to do badly (AND WANT IT) in order to have people look upon them more favorably. I think that was their failure. No one wants to cheer for failure and that's why Bush won so handily. Wake up libs or you will face the same thing in another four years; Hillary or not.

Oh yeah, I almost forgot. :thumbsup: Go BUSH!! :beer::thumbsup:

Yes, and may the Christian God bless the U.S.

You have it slightly wrong, it's may God forgive the US. If he doesn't destroy the US, he owes an apology to Sodom and Gamorroh.

 

[A5]

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
This nation is still a house divided. Bush has his work cut. I personally hope he plunges head strong into paying off national debt and eliminating the deficit.

I don't think Republicans have said that in the last 10 years...not gonna happen. At least I know there will be jobs in the defense industry when I get out of college.

 

[IGBT]

...hay..lets give kerry another medal..or a balloon..or something..