KERRY WILL CONCEDE AT 1PM EST

[Irrational]

Everyone knows Fox News sit squarely in "the Right's" corner. The point is they're just doing the opposite of what many other networks have done for years. Balancing it out. Frankly, if I only used my television to provide my daily news. I'd be on the verge of suicide every morning.

 

[SacrosanctFiend]

:beer: for everyone. Bush win and Daschle loses. Wonderful day for me.

 

[Corn]

Originally posted by: Grakatt

Originally posted by: Corn

Originally posted by: konichiwa

Originally posted by: DT4K

Originally posted by: Grakatt
Did every evangelist in your country stand up almost straight and walk off to vote yesterday? My my, I do believe so. This is one of my current favourite quotes:

"ROVE: I think as we get to the end, people in all states are thinking about who will be best to lead us in the War on Terror. Who is the person with vision and clarity and moral resolve to fight the enemy until the enemy is completely defeated? And people understand that's George W. Bush"

Can the 'war on terror' be won? Completely, as stated? In 4 years? With a continuation of the methods of the last 4 years?
No, No, No.
Either Rove is so used to manipulating the truth he wouldn't recognize it if it dragged him to a park and beat him with a large branch, (meaning he believes what he's saying, which is scary), or he is lying, and aware of it.

:Q

Viscious insults and attacks against christians from an "open-minded" liberal?
Who would have expected that?

<blatant sterotype>I guess Kerry didn't get enough of his welfare bum and communist supporters to put down their crack pipes long enough to get to the polls.</blatant sterotype>

:roll:

Not really sure how you can characterize his post as "viscious insults and attacks" against Christians when he's just noticing, as most of the media commented, that the evangelical vote came out in full force for Bush this time around...

I guess you are as blind as a bat. Please note the text I bolded in the first sentence of his original post......and the the following quote that he added in just to solidify his point:

And to think the majority of Americans are spiteful now.. blind, blind, blind, blind, stupid, arrogant, reckless, stupid, stupid, stupid.

Read what BroeBo said. If they can stand up just straight and vote for Bush mainly because he has the same values when it comes to faith as they, then they are either in the dark about the other issues, or they are scary.
Anyhow, it doesn't matter..the fact remains: Many who voted are apparently rather clueless or dangerously naive. Either way, it isn't my mess, although in certain indirect ways it affects me a little, as it affects most of the world. The Chief Political Advisor is an infernal lier, or he believes the War on Terror can be won, with the means previously used by him, and in 4 years, too. If he doesn't plan to do away with the election system altogether Funny how no one commented my comments on mr. Rove's words, eh?
Tsk tsk tsk.

Edit. And 'leftie'...godscurse, how many 'conservatives' are upset by mr. Bush &amp; gang's very 'conservative' actions? The word is as hollow as your average Bush-supporter's head. Damnit, there I go again..
Say hello...to all the apples on the ground

Thank you for further proving my point. You tolerant and freedom loving lefties wallowing in your bigotry and hypocrisy is music to my ears. What's next in your playbook? Damn am I amused.

 

[theblackbox]

Everyone knows Fox News sit squarely in "the Right's" corner

i watched both cnn and fox last night and thought fox was much more fair and up to date, i felt cnn was nervous and afraid to make any choices. fox had people from both sides that intelligently debated and discussed the election. cnn had larry king and wol blitzer stating everything was the new green color for too close to call, and cnn only picked up on the exit polls after they fell through their predicitons.

 

[ntdz]

it was an extremely classy thing for him to not drag this out, and I think its the best thing for the country for him to concede. Thanks Kerry, you did what Gore didn't.

 

[konichiwa]

Originally posted by: Corn

Originally posted by: konichiwa

Originally posted by: DT4K

Originally posted by: Grakatt
Did every evangelist in your country stand up almost straight and walk off to vote yesterday? My my, I do believe so. This is one of my current favourite quotes:

"ROVE: I think as we get to the end, people in all states are thinking about who will be best to lead us in the War on Terror. Who is the person with vision and clarity and moral resolve to fight the enemy until the enemy is completely defeated? And people understand that's George W. Bush"

Can the 'war on terror' be won? Completely, as stated? In 4 years? With a continuation of the methods of the last 4 years?
No, No, No.
Either Rove is so used to manipulating the truth he wouldn't recognize it if it dragged him to a park and beat him with a large branch, (meaning he believes what he's saying, which is scary), or he is lying, and aware of it.

:Q

Viscious insults and attacks against christians from an "open-minded" liberal?
Who would have expected that?

<blatant sterotype>I guess Kerry didn't get enough of his welfare bum and communist supporters to put down their crack pipes long enough to get to the polls.</blatant sterotype>

:roll:

Not really sure how you can characterize his post as "viscious insults and attacks" against Christians when he's just noticing, as most of the media commented, that the evangelical vote came out in full force for Bush this time around...

I guess you are as blind as a bat. Please note the text I bolded in the first sentence of his original post......and the the following quote that he added in just to solidify his point:

And to think the majority of Americans are spiteful now.. blind, blind, blind, blind, stupid, arrogant, reckless, stupid, stupid, stupid.

So they can't stand up straight and that makes his post an attack post? I don't get it. It's been discussed over and over again in the news media that Bush was able to mobilize the rural and Christian vote in a way no one anticipated, and that's what OP was suggesting...

 

[DT4K]

Originally posted by: BroeBo
Wow this election just made it clear how many Americans vote without knowing anything but wedge issues and talking points. (can we please have a basic fact comprehension test before people are allowed to vote?) The the majority of issues that Bush voters were worried about at the polls were moral values and terrorism. "Dubya has protected us from another attack since nine one one, what has Kerry done?!" Run little sheep, run! IMO: I think the spread of Bush voters was about 70% moral Christian fund-a-mental case who believed all the BS republican smears on Kerry, Iraq connection to 9/11, etc. While the other 30% knew everything but were too greedy about the government "stealing" their money to agree that Bush is a failure.

May whichever god bless our united states of greed and ignorance.

oh yes and to the 70% I was talking about above, please save your washed up "if you don't like it you can geeet out" comments because luckily I have faith that eventually we will turn this country back in right direction.

*zzzzzzzziip*

LOL. Yeah, those damn republicans with their forged documents(oh wait, that was the democrats) and blatant lies about Stormin Norman endorsing their candidate(oh wait, that was the democrats), and their plans to run a fabricated story about lost explosives on Sunday night (oh wait, that was the democrats)

You would sound like less of an idiot without the stereotyping generalizations. Just admit that people have different opinions. There are just as many idiot liberals who still think Iraq is about oil, the recession is Bush's fault, and the Clinton era intelligence was fabricated by Rove, as there are moronic conservatives who think Saddam was involved in 9/11. There are idiots on both sides. Claiming that it is only the other side with misinformed voters makes it clear that you are nothing more than a blind bush hating sheep who believes everything the liberal media tells you.

But yes, it's far easier to try to make yourself believe that those who disagree with you are just uninformed idiots. So much for "open-minded" liberals.

 

[Irrational]

Originally posted by: theblackbox

i watched both cnn and fox last night and thought fox was much more fair and up to date, i felt cnn was nervous and afraid to make any choices. fox had people from both sides that intelligently debated and discussed the election. cnn had larry king and wol blitzer stating everything was the new green color for too close to call, and cnn only picked up on the exit polls after they fell through their predicitons.

Now don't get me wrong. I watched Fox last night too. I couldn't stay on CNN for more than a few minutes at a time without wanting to throw something at the TV. But it's still fact that Fox favors the Right wing. Like I said in the previous post, that's a good thing. Much needed in the face of CNN for example.

 

[Darkhawk28]

I truly fear for this country. I cannot see any good coming out of four more years of fear mongering and the raping of civil liberties. I have to do some serious soul-searching and decide what is going to be best for my two young girls. There is already talk of a mandate and that's the scariest part. This country has become badly diseased.

 

[konichiwa]

Originally posted by: theblackbox

Everyone knows Fox News sit squarely in "the Right's" corner

i watched both cnn and fox last night and thought fox was much more fair and up to date, i felt cnn was nervous and afraid to make any choices. fox had people from both sides that intelligently debated and discussed the election. cnn had larry king and wol blitzer stating everything was the new green color for too close to call, and cnn only picked up on the exit polls after they fell through their predicitons.

Funniest thing I saw last night on the FOX News coverage was whats-his-name from the Weekly Standard, who did most of the talking, once Ohio started to look reddish, say "the only bad news is that there are still a lot of provisional ballots out," only to be promptly corrected by the moderator: "you mean bad news for Bush"

"Right, right, bad news for Bush"

 

[Irrational]

Originally posted by: DT4K

Originally posted by: BroeBo
Wow this election just made it clear how many Americans vote without knowing anything but wedge issues and talking points. (can we please have a basic fact comprehension test before people are allowed to vote?) The the majority of issues that Bush voters were worried about at the polls were moral values and terrorism. "Dubya has protected us from another attack since nine one one, what has Kerry done?!" Run little sheep, run! IMO: I think the spread of Bush voters was about 70% moral Christian fund-a-mental case who believed all the BS republican smears on Kerry, Iraq connection to 9/11, etc. While the other 30% knew everything but were too greedy about the government "stealing" their money to agree that Bush is a failure.

May whichever god bless our united states of greed and ignorance.

oh yes and to the 70% I was talking about above, please save your washed up "if you don't like it you can geeet out" comments because luckily I have faith that eventually we will turn this country back in right direction.

*zzzzzzzziip*

LOL. Yeah, those damn republicans with their forged documents(oh wait, that was the democrats) and blatant lies about Stormin Norman endorsing their candidate(oh wait, that was the democrats), and their plans to run a fabricated story about lost explosives on Sunday night (oh wait, that was the democrats)

You would sound like less of an idiot without the stereotyping generalizations. Just admit that people have different opinions. There are just as many idiot liberals who still think Iraq is about oil, the recession is Bush's fault, and the Clinton era intelligence was fabricated by Rove, as there are moronic conservatives who think Saddam was involved in 9/11. There are idiots on both sides. Claiming that it is only the other side with misinformed voters makes it clear that you are nothing more than a blind bush hating sheep who believes everything the liberal media tells you.

But yes, it's far easier to try to make yourself believe that those who disagree with you are just uninformed idiots. So much for "open-minded" liberals.

Ditto.

 

[Corn]

I don't get it.

Evidently not. Hint: Think evolutionary chart.

 

[Grakatt]

Originally posted by: Corn

Originally posted by: Grakatt

Originally posted by: Corn

Originally posted by: konichiwa

Originally posted by: DT4K

Originally posted by: Grakatt
Did every evangelist in your country stand up almost straight and walk off to vote yesterday? My my, I do believe so. This is one of my current favourite quotes:

"ROVE: I think as we get to the end, people in all states are thinking about who will be best to lead us in the War on Terror. Who is the person with vision and clarity and moral resolve to fight the enemy until the enemy is completely defeated? And people understand that's George W. Bush"

Can the 'war on terror' be won? Completely, as stated? In 4 years? With a continuation of the methods of the last 4 years?
No, No, No.
Either Rove is so used to manipulating the truth he wouldn't recognize it if it dragged him to a park and beat him with a large branch, (meaning he believes what he's saying, which is scary), or he is lying, and aware of it.

:Q

Viscious insults and attacks against christians from an "open-minded" liberal?
Who would have expected that?

<blatant sterotype>I guess Kerry didn't get enough of his welfare bum and communist supporters to put down their crack pipes long enough to get to the polls.</blatant sterotype>

:roll:

Not really sure how you can characterize his post as "viscious insults and attacks" against Christians when he's just noticing, as most of the media commented, that the evangelical vote came out in full force for Bush this time around...

I guess you are as blind as a bat. Please note the text I bolded in the first sentence of his original post......and the the following quote that he added in just to solidify his point:

And to think the majority of Americans are spiteful now.. blind, blind, blind, blind, stupid, arrogant, reckless, stupid, stupid, stupid.

Read what BroeBo said. If they can stand up just straight and vote for Bush mainly because he has the same values when it comes to faith as they, then they are either in the dark about the other issues, or they are scary.
Anyhow, it doesn't matter..the fact remains: Many who voted are apparently rather clueless or dangerously naive. Either way, it isn't my mess, although in certain indirect ways it affects me a little, as it affects most of the world. The Chief Political Advisor is an infernal lier, or he believes the War on Terror can be won, with the means previously used by him, and in 4 years, too. If he doesn't plan to do away with the election system altogether Funny how no one commented my comments on mr. Rove's words, eh?
Tsk tsk tsk.

Edit. And 'leftie'...godscurse, how many 'conservatives' are upset by mr. Bush &amp; gang's very 'conservative' actions? The word is as hollow as your average Bush-supporter's head. Damnit, there I go again..
Say hello...to all the apples on the ground

Thank you for further proving my point. You tolerant and freedom loving lefties wallowing in your bigotry and hypocrisy is music to my ears. What's next in your playbook? Damn am I amused.

Sticking your fingers in your ears going 'Liberalleftieeeee-WAWAWAWA-liberaaaaleeeftieWAWAEA'?

How about a comment on my comments on Rove's comment? How about actually commenting any of my points?

 

[konichiwa]

Originally posted by: Corn

I don't get it.

Evidently not. Hint: Think evolutionary chart.

*sigh* For all the outrage you claim to have over alleged insults toward evangelical Christians, you sure can throw insults around yourself.

Just stick to a civil discussion if that's possible...

 

[Irrational]

Can't we at least celebrate the fact that the ghost of 2000 didn't rear its ugly head again? You guys will get another chance in 4 years. Hopefully, if all the crying you're doing is justified, you'll field good candidate next time. Of all the reasons I've heard for voting for Bush from the people around me. "Kerry never said what he would do differently. Just that he wouldn't do what Bush did." Sits well ahead. Sad as that may sound. I hope the Dems learn from this loss. The truly is no such thing as bad publicity. You guys did half of Bush's work for him!

 

[Toasthead]

Originally posted by: Irrational

Originally posted by: theblackbox

i watched both cnn and fox last night and thought fox was much more fair and up to date, i felt cnn was nervous and afraid to make any choices. fox had people from both sides that intelligently debated and discussed the election. cnn had larry king and wol blitzer stating everything was the new green color for too close to call, and cnn only picked up on the exit polls after they fell through their predicitons.

Now don't get me wrong. I watched Fox last night too. I couldn't stay on CNN for more than a few minutes at a time without wanting to throw something at the TV. But it's still fact that Fox favors the Right wing. Like I said in the previous post, that's a good thing. Much needed in the face of CNN for example.

I loved watching CNN when they had Carville on and he was basically conceding the election to Bush when Ohio was at like 99% reporting and Bush was up. I gotta admit though...he was much more civil about it than I had thought he would be.

 

[DT4K]

Originally posted by: konichiwaSo they can't stand up straight and that makes his post an attack post? I don't get it. It's been discussed over and over again in the news media that Bush was able to mobilize the rural and Christian vote in a way no one anticipated, and that's what OP was suggesting...

Ummm, yeah, mmmkay. Apparently you don't get it. He was saying that christians are low-intelligence neanderthals.

 

[Corn]

Originally posted by: Grakatt

Originally posted by: Corn

Originally posted by: Grakatt

Originally posted by: Corn

Originally posted by: konichiwa

Originally posted by: DT4K

Originally posted by: Grakatt
Did every evangelist in your country stand up almost straight and walk off to vote yesterday? My my, I do believe so. This is one of my current favourite quotes:

"ROVE: I think as we get to the end, people in all states are thinking about who will be best to lead us in the War on Terror. Who is the person with vision and clarity and moral resolve to fight the enemy until the enemy is completely defeated? And people understand that's George W. Bush"

Can the 'war on terror' be won? Completely, as stated? In 4 years? With a continuation of the methods of the last 4 years?
No, No, No.
Either Rove is so used to manipulating the truth he wouldn't recognize it if it dragged him to a park and beat him with a large branch, (meaning he believes what he's saying, which is scary), or he is lying, and aware of it.

:Q

Viscious insults and attacks against christians from an "open-minded" liberal?
Who would have expected that?

<blatant sterotype>I guess Kerry didn't get enough of his welfare bum and communist supporters to put down their crack pipes long enough to get to the polls.</blatant sterotype>

:roll:

Not really sure how you can characterize his post as "viscious insults and attacks" against Christians when he's just noticing, as most of the media commented, that the evangelical vote came out in full force for Bush this time around...

I guess you are as blind as a bat. Please note the text I bolded in the first sentence of his original post......and the the following quote that he added in just to solidify his point:

And to think the majority of Americans are spiteful now.. blind, blind, blind, blind, stupid, arrogant, reckless, stupid, stupid, stupid.

Read what BroeBo said. If they can stand up just straight and vote for Bush mainly because he has the same values when it comes to faith as they, then they are either in the dark about the other issues, or they are scary.
Anyhow, it doesn't matter..the fact remains: Many who voted are apparently rather clueless or dangerously naive. Either way, it isn't my mess, although in certain indirect ways it affects me a little, as it affects most of the world. The Chief Political Advisor is an infernal lier, or he believes the War on Terror can be won, with the means previously used by him, and in 4 years, too. If he doesn't plan to do away with the election system altogether Funny how no one commented my comments on mr. Rove's words, eh?
Tsk tsk tsk.

Edit. And 'leftie'...godscurse, how many 'conservatives' are upset by mr. Bush &amp; gang's very 'conservative' actions? The word is as hollow as your average Bush-supporter's head. Damnit, there I go again..
Say hello...to all the apples on the ground

Thank you for further proving my point. You tolerant and freedom loving lefties wallowing in your bigotry and hypocrisy is music to my ears. What's next in your playbook? Damn am I amused.

Sticking your fingers in your ears going 'Liberalleftieeeee-WAWAWAWA-liberaaaaleeeftieWAWAEA'?

How about a comment on my comments on Rove's comment? How about actually commenting any of my points?

What's to discuss. Either Rove honestly believes that the "war on terror" can be won, or he doesn't. Is it any different or dishonest than when Kerry stated "...the choices I would make? to fight and win the war on terror." and his promise to "....kill the terrorists before they get us."

Silly hypocritical liberals, you'll argue anything no matter how irrelevant and insignificant.

 

[dnuggett]

Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
I truly fear for this country. I cannot see any good coming out of four more years of fear mongering and the raping of civil liberties. I have to do some serious soul-searching and decide what is going to be best for my two young girls. There is already talk of a mandate and that's the scariest part. This country has become badly diseased.

It may be best to go to Canada. Before you go, don't forget to wipe that Kerry-Edwards crap off your sig.

 

[T2T III]

Jeez, the posts by Liberal folks are quite depressing. Heck, even when things are down for a Conservative, at least we don't have such a bleak outlook. I wonder if the Libs behave around the workplace as they do here? If so, it must be a pretty unmotivating place. :roll:

 

[Darkhawk28]

Originally posted by: dnuggett

Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
I truly fear for this country. I cannot see any good coming out of four more years of fear mongering and the raping of civil liberties. I have to do some serious soul-searching and decide what is going to be best for my two young girls. There is already talk of a mandate and that's the scariest part. This country has become badly diseased.

It may be best to go to Canada. Before you go, don't forget to wipe that Kerry-Edwards crap off your sig.

come to my house and make me.

 

[T2T III]

Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
I truly fear for this country. I cannot see any good coming out of four more years of fear mongering and the raping of civil liberties. I have to do some serious soul-searching and decide what is going to be best for my two young girls. There is already talk of a mandate and that's the scariest part. This country has become badly diseased.

I think the best thing for your two daughters is for you to take a deep look at your own attitude. Clearly, if you behave anywhere in real life like you do here, YOU are a much bigger danger to your family than some President of our country. :roll:

 

[Corn]

Originally posted by: konichiwa

Originally posted by: Corn

I don't get it.

Evidently not. Hint: Think evolutionary chart.

*sigh* For all the outrage you claim to have over alleged insults toward evangelical Christians, you sure can throw insults around yourself.

Just stick to a civil discussion if that's possible...

I don't see any outrage on my part over any insulting behavior--blatant and all to apparent sarcasm regarding the Gloat Police excepted. Perhaps you could point it out to me? I merely pointed out that your first post in this thread was in error......just like your last post.

 

[DT4K]

Originally posted by: Irrational

Originally posted by: theblackbox

i watched both cnn and fox last night and thought fox was much more fair and up to date, i felt cnn was nervous and afraid to make any choices. fox had people from both sides that intelligently debated and discussed the election. cnn had larry king and wol blitzer stating everything was the new green color for too close to call, and cnn only picked up on the exit polls after they fell through their predicitons.

Now don't get me wrong. I watched Fox last night too. I couldn't stay on CNN for more than a few minutes at a time without wanting to throw something at the TV. But it's still fact that Fox favors the Right wing. Like I said in the previous post, that's a good thing. Much needed in the face of CNN for example.

political donations by employees of the major news networks:

CBS
To Democrats: $109,000
To Republicans: $2000

NBC
To Democrats: $146,585
To Republicans: $0

Fox
To Democrats: $20,453
To Republicans: $4,930

 

[Beau]

It's been moved to 2:00 PM, FYI. (on cnn)