Keystone XL pipeline - why the fuss?

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Zorkorist

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It's raping the earth. It's what Oil/Coal Companies do.

We could easily fire up Nuclear Power Plants, and leave oil and coal behind, but the environmentalists freak out.

We have plenty of oil/coal, so...

-John
 
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Zorkorist

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Never mind that oil and coal are good for things, beyond burning to make heat. These are our natural resources, and you are going to burn them, to make heat?

-John
 

Zorkorist

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In a perfect world, we would be developing Nuclear Power, as clean energy. Easy to produce and powerful.

Coal and Oil, and other fossil fuels can be utilized to produce products, and not burned.

-John
 

Lash444

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In a perfect world, we would be developing Nuclear Power, as clean energy. Easy to produce and powerful.

Coal and Oil, and other fossil fuels can be utilized to produce products, and not burned.

-John

I have an idea. We can create a pipelines into the U.S. to handle all of the nuclear waste that other countries produce. Think of all the jobs that that will create.

I mean, Michigan was already allowing Canada to bring their garbage over to the U.S. to fill our landfills. $5 a dump truck full.

For nuclear waste, we should be able to get at least double that. And the jobs it creates, especially once everyone gets sick. It will be a boon to the economy!
 

Zorkorist

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The waste from Nuclear Power plants is a concentrated, green thing, and can be put in a corner of Yucca Mountain, a mountain designated by our Government to hold this shit.

We could do like 20 times, these.

-John
 

Spungo

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The waste from Nuclear Power plants is a concentrated, green thing, and can be put in a corner of Yucca Mountain, a mountain designated by our Government to hold this shit.
Store nuclear waste in the desert so it can't possibly contaminate ground water? Surely you can't be serious. I think we should store nuclear waste near large bodies of drinking water.
 

DucatiMonster696

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The waste from Nuclear Power plants is a concentrated, green thing, and can be put in a corner of Yucca Mountain, a mountain designated by our Government to hold this shit.

We could do like 20 times, these.

-John

Or it can be used as starter material for Thorium reactors and most of it will be consumed in the process only leaving behind a fraction of the amount waste product used to get such a reactor start. Of which the waste that results will have a significantly reduced shelf-left in terms of radioactive decay.
 
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JockoJohnson

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Store nuclear waste in the desert so it can't possibly contaminate ground water? Surely you can't be serious. I think we should store nuclear waste near large bodies of drinking water.

No, that is a dumb idea. Better to store it in a man-made mountain bunker.
 

OutHouse

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BoomerD

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How about making each state responsible for their own nuclear waste instead of shipping it cross country to store, making it the responsibility of some other state's residents?

I recently moved back to Washington...and have seen many news reports about all the problems at Hanford with their nuclear waste storage...

http://www.ecy.wa.gov/programs/nwp/sections/tankwaste/closure/pages/tank_leak_FAQ.html

http://koin.com/2014/04/24/6-things-know-hanfords-nuclear-waste/

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/hanford-nuclear-cleanup-problems/


While the idea of nuclear energy is good...in practice, it leaves a lot be desired. MAYBE once fission is abandoned and fusion becomes reality.......
 

K1052

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How about making each state responsible for their own nuclear waste instead of shipping it cross country to store, making it the responsibility of some other state's residents?

I recently moved back to Washington...and have seen many news reports about all the problems at Hanford with their nuclear waste storage...

http://www.ecy.wa.gov/programs/nwp/sections/tankwaste/closure/pages/tank_leak_FAQ.html

http://koin.com/2014/04/24/6-things-know-hanfords-nuclear-waste/

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/hanford-nuclear-cleanup-problems/


While the idea of nuclear energy is good...in practice, it leaves a lot be desired. MAYBE once fission is abandoned and fusion becomes reality.......

The problems at Hanford stem from the weapons program, not civilian power generation.

Building a bunch of different repositories or multiple reprocessing facilities would be tremendously inefficient and costly.
 

blankslate

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Pretty sure that if it wasn't going to pass near any fresh water sources the noise level about it would be a lot less....


could be wrong though...



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