Kids And Beepers: "Majority" Disapproves?

[bUnMaNGo]

Psychoholic: I hate having to resort to lowering myself down to your level, but your comments in this thread have left me with no other choice. What is your damn problem man? Do you have some low self esteem problem that REQUIRES you to bag on people? Or do you have some sort of attention deficit disorder? What's with that lame "few fries short of a Happy Meal" comment? And with calling cell phones and pagers "toys"? Maybe mommy and daddy didn't buy you the Atari you oh so wanted, but maybe there's a little bitterness left from that deprived childhood that you suffered through? I don't think anybody else here gives a flying fart about these comments you are making about other members. However I do. You don't even know most of these members. What "right" do you have to make such statements about us? Grow up. Oh yes, GROW UP. Which leads me to another thing- you said you graduated in 1988? That would make you what, around 30 now? Maybe all of this is the result of your "old fogeyness" setting in a little prematurely. Times are changing, Pyschodelic. If you can survive without these technological conveniences, then more power to you. Some of us, however, don't feel that way.

And now for my thread related part:

<< my kids pagers have never gone off in school and I never recieved a complaint. >>

Good for you. If that's the case then why do they carry them at school?

I've seen one key word appearing a few times in this thread- &quot;EMERGENCY&quot;. E-M-E-R-G-E-N-C-Y. Did I really have to spell it out for you?

But do you have the right for your kid's pager to disturb others??? Do you have the right to interfere in the teacher's train of thought while he/she is teaching?? I don't care if you want to give your kids pagers. They just shouldn't bring them to school. If I was the teacher and it went off in my classroom, I would take the damn thing and break it.

If it were on silent/vibrate mode, I don't see how it would be disturbing. However, if it weren't, you DO have a point. Then again, if the pager was to serve solely for EMERGENCY purposes, how often would it go off?

I look forward to hearing what you have to say. Have a good day.

 

[Psychoholic]

bUnMaNGo, first of all learn to leave the caps lock on or off.


<< And with calling cell phones and pagers &quot;toys&quot;? >>


A cell phone for a high schooler is a toy. Tell me one reason why you are important enough to have it. Are you a CEO in high school?? Does you stock broker need to call you during lunch?? My taxes and the taxes of millions like me pay to run the school that you attend. I don't want to pay for the teacher to teach you the same thing twice because some 16-year old kid's pager keeps going off in class.



<< You don't even know most of these members. What &quot;right&quot; do you have to make such statements about us? >>


I &quot;know&quot; plenty of these members. I was lurking and posting here when you was in junior high.



<< If you can survive without these technological conveniences, then more power to you. >>


You want to tell me why it is so damn important you have a pager at school??



<< I've seen one key word appearing a few times in this thread- &quot;EMERGENCY&quot;. E-M-E-R-G-E-N-C-Y. Did I really have to spell it out for you? >>


I've got one word for you, bUnMaNGo, &quot;OFFICE&quot;-O-F-F-I-C-E. If there's an emergency they can contact kids by sending a message through the office.



<< If it were on silent/vibrate mode, I don't see how it would be disturbing. >>


Even though a pager is still on vibrate it still makes a noise. The buzz can be heard from across the room. Pagers and cell phones are not the only hinderance to teaching in schools today, but you have to start somewhere. I have yet to see a reason why they should be allowed other than the lame emergency excuse. That's what the office is for plain and simple.



<< Times are changing, Pyschodelic. >>


You don't have to inform me of this. I am well aware of it seeing as how I deal with it daily. I've seen more technological advances in one day than you have in the last year.

 

[bUnMaNGo]

Hey baby...I've got an 8 inch tongue and I can breathe through my ears!!

Ahh, now that would explain why you've been talking out of your ass all this time. Damn Psychodelic, you don't ever stop with the insults do you? Tell me, what exactly are you setting out to prove? WTF is your problem anyway? You should really go to a doctor and get that big ass telephone pole shoved up your ass removed. Maybe then it would be easier for you to talk out of your ass.

My taxes and the taxes of millions like me pay to run the school that you attend.

So if we were talking about a private school as opposed to a public school, would you say that you wouldn't give a rat's ass since you don't have to pay for their education?

I was lurking and posting here when you was in junior high.

And the point of this being? Being a member for a longer time than I have been does not prove anything to me. (FYI, AnandTech was founded back in April of 1997. This was during my junior year of high school- therefore AnandTech did not exist back when I was in Junior High)

I've got one word for you, bUnMaNGo, &quot;OFFICE&quot;-O-F-F-I-C-E. If there's an emergency they can contact kids by sending a message through the office.

Touche- you got me there. But genocide has a good point- what about after school, and if the child walked, carpooled, or took the bus home?

You want to tell me why it is so damn important you have a pager at school??

I'm not saying that it's important to have a pager at school. I'm just saying that if you do, it should be alright as long as it doesn't create a distraction.

Pagers and cell phones are not the only hinderance to teaching in schools today, but you have to start somewhere.

In all my four years of high school, I've witnessed TWO occasions where a pager was taken away due to it going off in class. The only reason the teacher heard it was because it wasn't on vibrate. Come on now, I've seen more classroom interruptions due to nosebleeds and vomiting than pagers going off.

I've seen more technological advances in one day than you have in the last year.

Yes, and that makes you oh so much cooler than me.

Psychodelic, please stop with these personal attacks. I'm sure you're sick of having to come up with those witty comebacks of yours, as am I. I'm pretty sure the rest of the members are sick of reading them as well. When you're ready to throw down your sword, so will I. Have a good night.

 

[Psychoholic]

<< Damn Psychodelic, you don't ever stop with the insults do you? >>

Where did I insult you in my last post?? I made a caps lock reference, but that was in fun. I didn't realize that you would be so thin-skinned that it would bother you. When I am debating an issue with someone I take a tough stance on the side I believe in. Don't you do the same?? What's said in this thread remains in this thread, I hold no grudges. Just because we get into a heated debate here doesn't mean I'll try to flame you because of it in another thread. I just believe my point and you believe yours, lighten up and have a little fun.



<< So if we were talking about a private school as opposed to a public school, >>


If you went to a private school I could care less what you did while at school. Unless my child went there, then I would have a reason once again to feel as if they're are wrong at school, because I would be paying his tuition.



<< But genocide has a good point- what about after school, and if the child walked, carpooled, or took the bus home? >>


I've had maintained the fact since I started this argument that as long as they are not at school I could care less if a kid had 4 cell phones and a dozen pagers. During school they should either leave them in their car or if they can't drive they should be in a locker, not in class.



<< I'm not saying that it's important to have a pager at school. I'm just saying that if you do, it should be alright as long as it doesn't create a distraction. >>


I'm just saying that too often they do cause a distraction.



<< Yes, and that makes you oh so much cooler than me. >>


Just wanted you to know that I'm not as behind the times as you think. I just believe in making the school day as productive as it can be.

ExAcTlY wHy Do SoMe PeOpLe TyPe LiKe ThIs AnYwAy?? (It's just a joke, please don't read anything more into it!!)

 

[FettsBabe]

Pagers do not belong in schools. When a parent needs to talk with their child they can call the office. Every emergency can be handled through the office. Remember, thats what the intercom system is for. What if five kids have pagers in class, and they receive a 911 beep with a number. Now multiply that number by how many classrooms there are in the school. Can they just leave the middle of class and walk out to use the phone? Hell NO. They have to get up and stop class, so they can ask permission. Now, what if those five kids are just screwing around to get out of class? Why do we have to ban pagers for specific students? We don't. Thats why they are not allowed, and never should be.

BTW, your pager is something that you CAN live without. You don't have to have your pager on your pocket to survive. I hardly think you are that important.

Honestly, you sound like a kid who would want to get beeped, so he would feel important and get out of class.

Why don't you guys take all of this aggression with pagers and apply it to your school work, and then maybe when you get a job you will be important enough to carry a pager.

 

[The Wildcard]

FETTSBABE &amp; psychodelic:
Hmmm, there is one problem with the OFFICE solution to relaying messages. For example, at my public high school, it is open campus lunch. Which means A.) The student can leave the campus and go to a nearby mall and have lunch there, or B.) Can eat lunch in the immediate surrounding area of the campus, SUCH AS, in one of the MANY, MANY lawns surrounding our school, or in our COURTYARD or down in the BASKETBALL courts. Or they could be in the parking lot.
( our school is very spread out, and has a different number of floors at different parts of the building )


The point is, THERE ARE NO INTERCOM SYSTEMS setup on the EXTERIOR of the building. That said, how is a student going to be notified of an emergancy situation if she is eating lunch in one of the lawns surround the school? You gonna have a counselor search all the lawns, courts, courtyards, and malls?

Hahah good luck, cuz lemme tell you a little something about public school system IN A METROPOLITAN CITY. The majority of teachers...don't give a rats a$$ about the majority of the students in the school. Sure they might know maybe 30-40 students really well and maybe 120-150 students by name...but when you have 700 students in just your class alone, and so around maybe 2700 students in the entire school, it's hard for teachers or counselors to know who you are and where you usually eat lunch.


FUTHERMORE, when an office relays a message to a student in the school, they usually contact the counselor of the student, then she/he can pull up his schedule, then contacts the teacher of the classroom. Now, first off, i know many teachers WHO DON'T ANSWER THE PHONE AT ALL, cuz they think it's a nuisance. Second of all, you talk about interruptions? hahaha come on, i mean who picks up the phone? THE TEACHER does! So they gotta stop class entirely and go pick up the phone. Then the teacher tells the student that there is a message in the office and then when she leaves, there's that usual 3-5 minutes where all of the rest of the students wonder what happened and so they are not focused on the lecture. The instead begin chit chattering about and well you know how the rumor mill starts.

THAT SAID, HOWEVER, my public high school and the rest of the millions of school in the US have been in existence for god knows how long and so if students can survive without pagers and cell phones for that long...well they can sure enough survive without them. The sad truth is that out of all the students i know who have pagers and cell phones, i can only think of ONE who actually has it for real safety or emergancy uses. Most of the studentsl just want it cuz they are COOOL or HANDY. So psycho, you are right when yo usay you can't accomidate just the few students cuz you gotta consider the majority. It's unfortunate, but true.

 

[Josh]

Wow Wildcard, Me thinks you've cleared up everything

 

[geno]

Too many people think that time in the classroom is as valuable as gold as well. Believe me, if something ever stops up a class, it's not going to last more than a minute or two to deal with. Oh god, a whole 2 minutes taken away from your child's education?? Find the one responsible and crucify them!!! All of the people saying &quot;I don't want my child's class interrupted&quot;, believe me when I say &quot;It's no big deal!&quot;. Anyone else who is in highschool can relate to this. It's just not a problem.

 

[The Wildcard]

I know, it's like when a beeper goes off, the teacher goes...&quot; okay who is that? &quot; and then everyone looks around to see who's beeper it is. finally the person turns it off and the teacher tells her to give it to him and then, THAT'S IT. hahahaha, don't see any class disruption.

 

[Josh]

Wildcard have you been you know ::Josh makes the drunk hand motion::?