Kingston 512MB PC3200 HyperX - $90 @ outpost.com

[Marauder-]

Just out of curiosity, how much difference would there be from 2-3-3 to 2-3-2? Or is it just more appealing to have faster ram in the hopes of achieving higher bandwidth from overclocking the memory?

I build custom PCs for my friends all the time but have only recently had to jump on this higher performance ram b/c the cheap stuff that I usually get from Fry's caused my budget dell to go completely unstable. BTW, these are running dual chan 2.5-3-3 and are completely stable on my Dell 4600 3.2E. I think the Fry's LEI stuff was 3-4-4 or 3-4-8 and was fine running dual channel at PC2700 (166Mhz) but went haywire when I upgraded the CPU and the Dell upped the FSB to 800.

 

[user1234]

$10 come to papa

 

[user1234]

Originally posted by: mope54

Originally posted by: russr
CH-5 which is the 3200 followed by the "A" is great RAM and has very good timings if you want to run at 200mhz or close to it. IF you're a serious overclocker, CH-5 is not very good. Some people have gotten it overclock well, but in general it doesn't overclock well especially on nforce2 boards with cpc on.

So as to whether you should keep this ram or not, you need to decide if you want to overclock big time or not. If you don't then keep it, otherwise sell it and get something better with Samsung TCCD chips.

EDIT: Would they still be selling BH-5 had we not complained that it wasn't 3200A? The $10 that you wouldn't get in the rebate is well worth the price for BH-5 chips. CH-5 sucks compared to BH-5.

Thank you for the info. I buy stuff with the intention of overclocking, but never really get around to it! So I end up with fairly fast equipment for not too expensive! haha, thank you very much for the information.

EDIT: of course, it's interesting to note: wouldn't the refurbs be from dealsearchers (like here and other forums) and overclockers finding these particular (not BH-5's in general) chips to be poor perfomers? So the BH-5's that people got might be known poor performers and suck, too.

would you stop with the refurb crap already ? they are not sending all refurbs, although I could believe that rarely one may be a refurb, mostly it's new like the one I got and many others. I could also believe that if a moron here got a refurb, he would whine so loud that everyone would think they're are all refurbs. If you get a refurb, just send it back and you'll get a new one.


[pwned]

 

[steveox]

would you stop with the refurb crap already ? they are not sending all refurbs, although I could believe that rarely one may be a refurb, mostly it's new like the one I got and many others. I could also believe that if a moron here got a refurb, he would whine so loud that everyone would think they're are all refurbs. If you get a refurb, just send it back and you'll get a new one.


[pwned]

I also got a refurbished one ..

 

[tedy]

Guys CH-5 can also overclock nicely

I have 2*256MB BUFFALLO CH-5 both one sided...doing 230 CPC ON 2-2-2-11 3.2VDIMM on my DFI NFII INFINITY

 

[mope54]

Did you edit your post to put the immature [pwned] tag in?

If you lowered your nose enough to actually read what I wrote, you would have noticed that I didn't claim outpost was sending "all refurbs."

Whether they send out one or one hundred, my question is a legitimate one: refurbished chips probably are just chips that got sent back because they didn't perform good enough.

Now that could be due to overclockers not getting enough out of them, but it could also mean that normal users couldn't get them to act stable.

Regardless, check your chips when you get them. Or don't--I got new ones, what do I care?

So the next time you feel the need to respond with a rude tone, you might serve yourself well to actually read what you are referring to. Or maybe you just weren't able to understand my point...but since that's a question of intelligence I'll blame your mom.

 

[user1234]

Not sure why you keep bothering us with those silly refurbished theories - kingston and newegg gave a clear answer : the non-A model was discontinued, the current model is "A" and that's what you're supposed to get. If you get a refurbished one which you don't like just exchange it, and stop wasting time with conjectures about why you got a refurbished one - it's just part of the retail business.

 

[mope54]

Originally posted by: user1234
Not sure why you keep bothering us with those silly refurbished theories - kingston and newegg gave a clear answer : the non-A model was discontinued, the current model is "A" and that's what you're supposed to get. If you get a refurbished one which you don't like just exchange it, and stop wasting time with conjectures about why you got a refurbished one - it's just part of the retail business.

My posts are 'bothering' you?

I'd reply that you ought not read them if that's the case, but it's now evident that you either aren't reading them or can't.

Try to understand this very simple point in your extremely dense skull:

I received new memory.

 

[Cherub]

stop wasting time with conjectures about why you got a refurbished one - it's just part of the retail business

Actually, it's fraud and misrepresentation. It certainly reflects poorly on Outpost and appears to be very a very common theme on Resellerratings. Outpost is also lousy about correcting issues when they arise.

I note that the stick I rec'd was obviously remarked and is defective, failing to run at SPD at default speed and voltage.

 

[Foladar]

Still trying to get Outpost to exchange the right RAM

 

[sleepeeg3]

Originally posted by: Cherub

stop wasting time with conjectures about why you got a refurbished one - it's just part of the retail business

Actually, it's fraud and misrepresentation. It certainly reflects poorly on Outpost and appears to be very a very common theme on Resellerratings. Outpost is also lousy about correcting issues when they arise.

I note that the stick I rec'd was obviously remarked and is defective, failing to run at SPD at default speed and voltage.

Ditto here.

...and Foladar, they have less than a 2.0 on reseller ratings for exchanges, they have to be out of stock of the BH-5, do yourself a favor and send it back to Kingston. Mine went in the mail today.

 

[gxshockwav]

ech...got khx3200 non-a.....maxed out at 230 2-2-2 @3.3v
disappointed.

 

[Tyrant222]

gx, what mobo are you using?

230 seems to me your using them in dual channel, about where the nf7-s tops out at

 

[gxshockwav]

gx, what mobo are you using? 230 seems to me your using them in dual channel, about where the nf7-s tops out at

I'm using a epox 8KDA3+ socket 754 mobo. My Ch5's (2x256 twinmos) are running at 250 @2-2-2-1t stable at 3.3v, but in theory the khx3200 should be running at least at that speed if bh5's are really under the heatspreader. I haven't removed the HS to check the chips, but right now, I don't think the memory is using bh5.

 

[sleepeeg3]

It's using BH-5. Kingston only manufactured BH-5 with that model number.

2*256MB single-sided sticks typically run 10MHz faster than DS. To get CH-5 to run @ 2-2-2-X timings is pure luck. I'd say only 5-10% are capable of it and only with high volts.

 

[GZDonner]

i recieved the A version from them (1*512).

 

[PhilipPip]

Outpost now offers a $20 rebate on the webpage for the KHX3200A/512. In theory, the final price would then be $69.99. Unfortunately, if one examines the rebate PDF, it is for KHX3200AK2/1G (ie the dual 512 MB DIMMs kit). I'm starting to understand why, despite the low prices and the retailer's nominal ownership by Fry's, none of my friends shop at Outpost...

I'm getting so paranoid, I'm wondering whether any of the computer kit I've ever ordered from Outpost is actually legit... (Dang, that Pioneer A07XL box wasn't sealed in plastic...)

Speaking of which, my second DIMM arrived last week. It was proper KHX3200A/512R, sealed with a UPC-bearing label in a black 'clamshell', which in turn was contained in a black retail box. The black retail box has a clear plastic 'window' through which one can see the label on the actual DIMM container. I guess this one must be the real deal, and last week's rebate might actually work.

It's fine to order refurbished parts and keep them if they work. My primary computer is built on a refurbished ASUS A7N8X de luxe, which runs fine. But I made my motherboard purchase in full knowledge of its refurbished status, which was clearly labelled by the retailer (Newegg). No retailer should sell used or refurbished products without warning, and Kingston, the actual manufacturer in this case, does not countenance their retailers selling refurbished memory. Outpost is the shadiest online retailer I've ever purchased from (outside of eBay of course ).

 

[Foladar]

Kingston told me that I had to send to Outpost because they sent me the wrong item?

 

[Slickone]

So does the rebate work or no?

 

[mope54]

I got screwed out of my rebate.

kingston said that my receipt was dated a day ealier than the rebate form.

I guess by the time I downloaded the form, outpost had changed to the new week's form. Does anyone know how to get a hold of the older rebate forms?

I need the one that ends Oct 19th.

 

[Slickone]

The MiR posted on outpost.com says it's until Nov 16th, yet the outpost product page says Nov 23rd. Anyone know more about this? And the MiR is only $10 now.

This is the best deal on the better/faster PC3200 types (not sure what to call them) such as this, isn't it?

 

[Slickone]

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