Knoppix 3.4 - release info

[Cheetah8799]

I saw this posted on distrowatch.com. No, it's not released yet, they have a bit of work to do. Sounds like they are getting close though.

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On Mon, Apr 19, 2004 at 01:29:42PM -0700, mark everton wrote:
> Yes, common Klaus!
>
> Give us some status on 3.4. What's holding it back?
> I can't be only the size. Because if you are thinking
> about that. Trust me when I say that one way or the
> other someone is not going to be happy. But hey,
> that's live.
> 2 months now without knoppix is mutch too long...

Well, there has been the c't edition in February, and the CeBit edition
in March 2004. So, there is some apparently visible progress already.
;-)

We still have a lot of things to work on and test before the official
beta release. Most important changes from the CeBit Edition 3.4:

- KDE 3.2.2
- OpenOffice 1.1.1
- New Kernels (currentmost 2.4 and 2.6)
- New wireless drivers for Centrino, Prism2/3, Ateros, possibly more.
- Lots of new usability features and gimmicks (ask Fabian for more).

Current TODOs:
- Testing/Debugging the new features
- Fix Menu structure of KDE 3.2.2
- Search for 60 MB (!) of stuff to delete. KDE 3.2.2 and OpenOffice
1.1.1 have really gotten huge. LaTeX will have to go, I'm afraid (it
was already removed in the CeBit Edition). I'm thinking about removing
KOffice too, because it has not more functionality than OpenOffice.

This should be finished within a few days, but instead of giving a wrong
date for a release and thus just raising expectations unnecessarily, I'm
just quoting from the Knoppix website: "It's ready when it's ready." ;-)

Regards
-Klaus Knopper

 

[SUOrangeman]

The wait for 3.4 pushed me over the edge. I'm now happilly running Gentoo 2004.0 with kernel 2.6.5, X.org 6.7, KDE 3.2.1 (and GNOME 2.6) and a bunch of other goodies. I really needed the 2.6 kernel out-of-the-box so I can access (and install to) my SATA drives.

But, I will at least download 3.4 when it is final!

-SUO

 

[Monoman]

Originally posted by: SUOrangeman
The wait for 3.4 pushed me over the edge. I'm now happilly running Gentoo 2004.0 with kernel 2.6.5, X.org 6.7, KDE 3.2.1 (and GNOME 2.6) and a bunch of other goodies. I really needed the 2.6 kernel out-of-the-box so I can access (and install to) my SATA drives.

But, I will at least download 3.4 when it is final!

-SUO

hows X.org compaired to XFree86. I have been out the the linux loop for a little and X.org wasn't big back when slack 8.1 was around

Hows the new Gentoo? I tried 1.3 a while back and it was a cool install just a pain on dialup

 

[Megatomic]

I can't wait to d/l it! If it works out I'll find a way to install it to my HDD. Knoppix 3.3 was great, I have high expectations for 3.4.

 

[Nothinman]

hows X.org compaired to XFree86. I have been out the the linux loop for a little and X.org wasn't big back when slack 8.1 was around

Right now it's just a fork of XFree from right before the license change, so they're 99% the same thing.

 

[SUOrangeman]

Gentoo and X.org are doing quite well for me at home and at work. At home, 'm using the latest nVidia drivers with X.org pushing both of my LCDs over dual-DVI.

-SUO

 

[Sid59]

i just started using knoppix in spurts. i like it, very easy to use. The access and read times from cd vs hdd is slow but i can't expect too much if the entire thing is running from cd.

Am i missing an option, but can is there a way to cache portions of the files to memory and not use the disk?

 

[ntrights]

Originally posted by: Sid59
i just started using knoppix in spurts. i like it, very easy to use. The access and read times from cd vs hdd is slow but i can't expect too much if the entire thing is running from cd.

Am i missing an option, but can is there a way to cache portions of the files to memory and not use the disk?

you can make a HD install of knoppix

 

[SUOrangeman]

And, if you have enough RAM, you can copy the entire distro to memory at the CD's boot:

boot: knoppix toram option2 option3 ...

Read the cheatcodes for more info.

If you've got FAT or any readable Linux partition on your hard drive, you can copy the \KNOPPIX onto your hard drive. When you boot from CD (or floppy), it will likely detect the copied directory before it tries to load from CD.

With 3.3, I was even able to turn the boot floppy image to into a bootable partition on my hard drive, but that may no longer be possible, as 3.4 transitions to isolinux for booting.

-SUO

 

[sean2002]

Originally posted by: Monoman

Originally posted by: SUOrangeman
The wait for 3.4 pushed me over the edge. I'm now happilly running Gentoo 2004.0 with kernel 2.6.5, X.org 6.7, KDE 3.2.1 (and GNOME 2.6) and a bunch of other goodies. I really needed the 2.6 kernel out-of-the-box so I can access (and install to) my SATA drives.

But, I will at least download 3.4 when it is final!

-SUO

hows X.org compaired to XFree86. I have been out the the linux loop for a little and X.org wasn't big back when slack 8.1 was around

Hows the new Gentoo? I tried 1.3 a while back and it was a cool install just a pain on dialup

If my facts are correct X.org current version is a copy so to speak of the last beta of Xfree86 4.4

 

[drag]

X.org's is a test version for 4.4 based on Xfree86 4.3, which is the last version that carried the old liscence.

They already decided to release a new X11 specification X11R6.7 which incorporates bug fixes and the newer improvements in things like font handling and the networking protocols.

This is being backed by pretty much every Linux and Unix player out there. Sun, IBM, HP, Redhat, Suse, etc etc etc. The only guys who said that they'd keep on using XFree86 is going to be Slackware, I think. Or at least haven't annonced they wiil be using X.org. I don't know about slackware, but for instance I installed Dropline Gnome on my Slackware laptop and that gutted the XFree86 install and replaced it with X.org's.

As far as X.org vs XFree86, they are the same for all practical purposes. Mostly X.org is XFree86 minus the trademarks in the documentation and binary names.

But once the new specification for X11 gets adopted by the major Linux distros that will pretty much be the last nail in the coffin of XFree86's relevence.

It's too bad it had to work out like this, but out with the old and in with the new.

Hopefully now X windows can keep up with the developement of the rest of the OSS world. Although it's going to be tough, the code for XFree86 is suppose to be pretty hard to work with.

 

[n0cmonkey]

Competition is good.

I believe NetBSD is using XFree86 4.4, and maybe FreeBSD (but I'm definitely not sure).

 

[XBoxLPU]

IIRC, On GentooAMD64 XFree is deprecated

I only wish ATI would have drivers for XFree(Xorg) 4.4

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: XBoxLPU
IIRC, On GentooAMD64 XFree is deprecated

I only wish ATI would have drivers for XFree(Xorg) 4.4

Xorg doesn't support ATI cards?

 

[SUOrangeman]

KNOPPIX 3.4 released today.

-SUO

 

[OffTopic1]

Originally posted by: SUOrangeman
KNOPPIX 3.4 released today.

-SUO

Yeah!

I tried to torrent it for the last 20 minutes & it is a no go.